Re: PAIN
Alex Zepeda wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, kibbet wrote: /me looks at the bunch of 386 mobo's... lets not go there.. :) /me looks at the stack of 386sx chips he has and wonders why no-one did 8 way SMP with these! /me recalls a 32-processor Sequent box, all 386/25s, in the test lab at Unisys. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Wes Peters wrote: Alex Zepeda wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, kibbet wrote: /me looks at the bunch of 386 mobo's... lets not go there.. :) /me looks at the stack of 386sx chips he has and wonders why no-one did 8 way SMP with these! /me recalls a 32-processor Sequent box, all 386/25s, in the test lab at Unisys. Yes, but those were 386DX 25, not 386sx, the sx had a 16 bit bus. Brian Beattie| The only problem with [EMAIL PROTECTED] | winning the rat race ... www.aracnet.com/~beattie | in the end you're still a rat To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 02:12:45PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: On Saturday, 29 January 2000 at 20:04:18 -0500, TrouBle wrote: Just imagine, too bad its not an 8086 or a 286 prolly take a month or so. Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Farkas writes: : This was a 'buildworld' of 3.4-stable, on 486DX2-66 with 32MB RAM, and : both src and obj on the same local disk (softupdates enabled): I'm doing this over NFS and only have 12MB of RAM. : Scriptdone on Thu Jan 20 16:22:31 2000 : Script started on Thu Jan 20 01:01:00 2000 15:21:31. Hmmm, no wonder things have been taking a while... The crypto file that's building now has been going for about 15 minutes now... I think that I'll get my whole week at this rate. I did a make world on my PDP-11 yesterday. It took less than a day. But that's 2.11BSD. That is hard- or software hardware ? Joerg -- Joerg B. MicheelEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Waikato Applied Network DynamicsPhone: +64 7 8384794 The University of Waikato, CompScience Fax: +64 7 8384155 Private Bag 3105Pager: +64 868 38222 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Alex Zepeda wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, kibbet wrote: /me looks at the bunch of 386 mobo's... lets not go there.. :) /me looks at the stack of 386sx chips he has and wonders why no-one did 8 way SMP with these! uky.edu once had a Sequent Symmetry with twenty-six 386DX's in it -- 20 mhz if I remember right. Interesting box, to say the least... Mike Andrews (MA12) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.bit0.com/ VP, sysadmin, network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet services for Frankfort, Lawrenceburg, Owenton, Shelbyville "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On 30-Jan-00 Mike Andrews wrote: On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Alex Zepeda wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, kibbet wrote: /me looks at the bunch of 386 mobo's... lets not go there.. :) /me looks at the stack of 386sx chips he has and wonders why no-one did 8 way SMP with these! uky.edu once had a Sequent Symmetry with twenty-six 386DX's in it -- 20 mhz if I remember right. Interesting box, to say the least... Certainly sounds interesting. Back a couple of years a friend (electronics guru) and I wanted to do some PP'ing for a little astronomy project. It never eventuated but we were thinking of a tying the 6 odd 486's together directly via a pci to pci circuit. We wanted SPEED though so we tossed around the idea of direct pc/pc communication via SIMM sockets. Idea being, chunk of ram for local processing, starting on a SIMM boundary a circuit (running at cpu bus speed) to communicate with the other pc's. All highly unlikely, but logic didn't enter into it back then :) Cheers... Kent Ibbetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : I did a make world on my PDP-11 yesterday. It took less than a day. : But that's 2.11BSD. Turns out that 12MB + 30MB of swap isn't enough to build world. I ran out of swap and the machine rebooted (at least that's what I think happened, since it silently rebooted). Are you using -pipe? That drastically increases memory requirements. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Gary Palmer wrote: /me looks at the stack of 386sx chips he has and wonders why no-one did 8 way SMP with these! You never heard of the Sequent boxes, did you? :) In fact I haven't. But I also don't have DXs either. :) - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 01:00:44AM -0500, TrouBle wrote: : Geee lets see i have a 386 sx with a really tiny MFM in it still, its just : sitting here, doing nothing, wonder if i can get current on it, the thought is : killing me... : )) its got 8 megs of ram in it too ??? ~GRIN~ I'm running a PicoBSD firewall on a 386DX with 8MB. (Well, maybe it's just a screening router...). Mind you, it's pBSD off 3.4-STABLE, not off -CURRENT. But I'm planning to see whether I can do it with -CURRENT so I can get IPv6 in there too. (I'm not using any HD at the moment, but I may have to steal a bit of space of MSW3.11.) -- Christopher Vance To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the current wuildworld times for a 486DX2-66 + 12M RAM over NFS? Dunno yet. I started one in late 1997 but it's still running. I'll let you know when it finishes. :-) John To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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What's the current wuildworld times for a 486DX2-66 + 12M RAM over
NFS? I have a small box that I'd like to torture test before putting
into service and thought this would make a good week long test.
'torture test' is an understatement.
This was a 'buildworld' of 3.4-stable, on 486DX2-66 with 32MB RAM, and
both src and obj on the same local disk (softupdates enabled):
Script started on Thu Jan 20 01:01:00 2000
backup# cd /usr/src
backup# /usr/bin/time make buildworld
--
Cleaning up the temporary elf build tree
--
mkdir -p /usr/obj/citus/src/tmp
chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/citus/src/tmp/
rm -rf /usr/obj/citus/src/tmp
...
gzip -cn /citus/src/usr.sbin/wlconfig/wlconfig.8 wlconfig.8.gz
=== etc
=== etc/sendmail
rm -f freebsd.cf
(cd /citus/src/etc/sendmail m4
-D_CF_DIR_=/citus/src/etc/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/cf/
/citus/src/etc/sendmail/../../contrib/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 freebsd.mc) freebsd.cf
chmod 444 freebsd.cf
54172.61 real 39360.42 user 6506.89 sys
backup#
Script done on Thu Jan 20 16:22:31 2000
Warner
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Re: PAIN
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Farkas writes: : This was a 'buildworld' of 3.4-stable, on 486DX2-66 with 32MB RAM, and : both src and obj on the same local disk (softupdates enabled): I'm doing this over NFS and only have 12MB of RAM. : Scriptdone on Thu Jan 20 16:22:31 2000 : Script started on Thu Jan 20 01:01:00 2000 15:21:31. Hmmm, no wonder things have been taking a while... The crypto file that's building now has been going for about 15 minutes now... I think that I'll get my whole week at this rate. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
Just imagine, too bad its not an 8086 or a 286 prolly take a month or so. Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Farkas writes: : This was a 'buildworld' of 3.4-stable, on 486DX2-66 with 32MB RAM, and : both src and obj on the same local disk (softupdates enabled): I'm doing this over NFS and only have 12MB of RAM. : Scriptdone on Thu Jan 20 16:22:31 2000 : Script started on Thu Jan 20 01:01:00 2000 15:21:31. Hmmm, no wonder things have been taking a while... The crypto file that's building now has been going for about 15 minutes now... I think that I'll get my whole week at this rate. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : I did a make world on my PDP-11 yesterday. It took less than a day. : But that's 2.11BSD. Turns out that 12MB + 30MB of swap isn't enough to build world. I ran out of swap and the machine rebooted (at least that's what I think happened, since it silently rebooted). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 02:12:45PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: On Saturday, 29 January 2000 at 20:04:18 -0500, TrouBle wrote: Just imagine, too bad its not an 8086 or a 286 prolly take a month or so. I did a make world on my PDP-11 yesterday. It took less than a day. ... to parse the Makefile :-) - mark -- Mark Newton Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) Network Engineer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82232999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On Saturday, 29 January 2000 at 20:48:29 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : I did a make world on my PDP-11 yesterday. It took less than a day. : But that's 2.11BSD. Turns out that 12MB + 30MB of swap isn't enough to build world. I ran out of swap and the machine rebooted (at least that's what I think happened, since it silently rebooted). [123] root-- uname -a 2.11BSD pdp11.lemis.com 2.11BSD 2.11 BSD UNIX #3: Sat Mar 7 15:25:50 CST 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/GRANDPA PDP11 [124] root-- pstat -s 15/103 swapmap entries 845 kbytes swap used, 7514 kbytes free Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On 30-Jan-00 Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : I did a make world on my PDP-11 yesterday. It took less than a day. : But that's 2.11BSD. Turns out that 12MB + 30MB of swap isn't enough to build world. I ran out of swap and the machine rebooted (at least that's what I think happened, since it silently rebooted). Warner I tried on a 486dx66, 8mb 100mb swap (I forgot to take my medication that day).. At some stage I got the slient reboot aswell. So now world builds are happily crunching away on the p90 32mb which was sitting right next to it :)The p90 is actually in a NX (Neptune) chipset board, so once I source a 2nd p90 I'll be trying dual cpu builds :) /me looks at the bunch of 386 mobo's... lets not go there.. :) Kent Ibbetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PAIN
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, kibbet wrote: /me looks at the bunch of 386 mobo's... lets not go there.. :) /me looks at the stack of 386sx chips he has and wonders why no-one did 8 way SMP with these! - alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
