Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports?

1999-06-11 Thread David O'Brien
 Are not there  any other uses for it? Like  xinetd? If everything else
 (the libwrap, the man pages) is there, why not install the tcpd as well?

BECAUSE IT IS NOT NEEDED by the base system.
 
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Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports?

1999-06-11 Thread Mikhail Teterin
David O'Brien once wrote:

  Are not  there any other uses  for it? Like xinetd?  If everything
  else (the libwrap, the man pages) is there, why not install the tcpd
  as well?
 
 BECAUSE IT IS NOT NEEDED by the base system.

It's Ok, no  need to yell. There  are a number of things,  not needed by
the system, that are in the system.  Not just the fortran and xtend, but
also, say, bc(1) or cal(1). It may be usefull, and it requires no effort
to have -- in fact, it probably needed some effort to be ripped out. But
most importantly, it is hard to  _add_ gracefuly to an installed system.
Porter will have to work hard to make the tcp_wrapper port work with the
system libwrap, while having two libwrap-s is just plain ugly.

-mi


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Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports?

1999-06-08 Thread Dom Mitchell
On 8 June 1999, Andrew Reilly proclaimed:
 Maybe 3.x users actually want tcpd too.  I'm running -STABLE, and
 qmail, and discovered that tcp_wrappers was somehow part of the
 system when things started misbehaving.  Oddly, tcpd itself is
 _not_ built by the system, it seems.  

This is correct; there is no need for it, as the support for the
wrappers was built directly into inetd.  Check the CVS logs for inetd.

 The libwrap that is built
 (or at least the man page for tcpdchk) seems to think that the
 control files hosts.access and hosts.deny still live in
 /usr/local/etc/, rather than where you would expect a system
 component to put them: /etc.

My tcpdchk doesn't seem to have this problem; then again, I'm running
-CURRENT.  Maybe you have a version left over from the ports?  Try
seeing what order your MANPATH is set or doing man -d tcpdchk.

 My current source of confusion is with the tcpd from ports,
 which doesn't mention what level it is syslogging at: I can't
 find any of it's log messages...

I find that it's convenient to redirect all logging to a spare VT:

[ /etc/syslogd.conf ]---
...
*.* /dev/ttyv7


That always lets you see what's going on.
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  Always think very hard before messing with TCP.  And then don't. -- MC
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Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports?

1999-06-08 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Dom Mitchell once wrote:

 This is  correct; there  is no  need for  it, as  the support  for the
 wrappers was built directly into inetd. Check the CVS logs for inetd.

Are not there  any other uses for it? Like  xinetd? If everything else
(the libwrap, the man pages) is there, why not install the tcpd as well?

-mi



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Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports?

1999-06-07 Thread Dom Mitchell
On 7 June 1999, Ben Rosengart proclaimed:
  I am curious as to why tcp_wrappers are present in /usr/src/contrib as
 well as in the ports collection.  Can someone please enlighten me?  TIA.

To support 2.2.x users?
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Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports?

1999-06-07 Thread Dan Langille
On 7 Jun 99, at 16:34, Dom Mitchell wrote:

 On 7 June 1999, Ben Rosengart proclaimed:
   I am curious as to why tcp_wrappers are present in /usr/src/contrib as
  well as in the ports collection.  Can someone please enlighten me?  TIA.
 
 To support 2.2.x users?

Yes.  Please don't forget about us!

[using 2.2.8 and 3.1]
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Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports?

1999-06-07 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 04:34:53PM +0100, Dom Mitchell wrote:
 On 7 June 1999, Ben Rosengart proclaimed:
   I am curious as to why tcp_wrappers are present in /usr/src/contrib as
  well as in the ports collection.  Can someone please enlighten me?  TIA.
 
 To support 2.2.x users?

Maybe 3.x users actually want tcpd too.  I'm running -STABLE, and
qmail, and discovered that tcp_wrappers was somehow part of the
system when things started misbehaving.  Oddly, tcpd itself is
_not_ built by the system, it seems.  The libwrap that is built
(or at least the man page for tcpdchk) seems to think that the
control files hosts.access and hosts.deny still live in
/usr/local/etc/, rather than where you would expect a system
component to put them: /etc.

My current source of confusion is with the tcpd from ports,
which doesn't mention what level it is syslogging at: I can't
find any of it's log messages...

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Andrew


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Re: tcp_wrapper in contrib and ports?

1999-06-07 Thread Harlan Stenn
 My current source of confusion is with the tcpd from ports,
 which doesn't mention what level it is syslogging at: I can't
 find any of it's log messages...

Try adding a '-v' to the syslogd startup (or '-vv').  Funny, that used to 
be documented in the man page...

If that's not enough, add a '-d' so you can watch what happens.  It 
shouldn't take long to find what you want.

Checking the source, it looks like it uses LOG_MAIL as the facility.  You 
can also use the ! stuff in syslog.conf - the tcp wrappers use the invoking 
program name to log stuff.

H




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