Re: Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists

2021-05-26 Thread Thor Ablestar
Well, if you require "FreeBSD" somewhere in the letter with exception of 
"To" field it would be quite enough. You only have to announce that the 
"FreeBSD" keyword should be included. "Linux" is optional.


Spammers have no idea what FreeBSD is.

On 5/26/21 1:34 PM, Kurt Jaeger wrote:

Hi!


On May 25, 2021, at 8:53 PM, jake h  wrote:
I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently sent via
this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; Your
phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth.
Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me?

I'm receiving these too. It looks like the servers are bouncing some of them 
just for me, even. And I'm receiving not just from this list; also from 
freebsd-hackers@ and ports@.

postmaster@ is aware of the problem, we do not yet have a clear-cut
solution and we're investigating.





Re: Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists

2021-05-26 Thread Philip Paeps

On 2021-05-26 22:50:57 (+0800), Julian H. Stacey wrote:

Kurt Jaeger wrote:

Hi!

On May 25, 2021, at 8:53 PM, jake h  wrote:
I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently 
sent via
this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; 
Your

phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth.
Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me?
I'm receiving these too. It looks like the servers are bouncing some 
of them just for me, even. And I'm receiving not just from this 
list; also from freebsd-hackers@ and ports@.


postmaster@ is aware of the problem, we do not yet have a clear-cut
solution and we're investigating.
--
p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372Now what ?


I'm on most lists & also seen much spam lately.

Changing Mailman list configs to only allowing postings from 
subscribed
addresses could dump nearly all spam;  (I'm a Mailman admin elsewhere 
).


This was how the majority of FreeBSD mailing lists were configured.  
Most lists were set to discard postings from non-subscribers.  Some were 
set to hold.  A few were set to reject.



But @freebsd.org has prefered open lists for near all lists.
Best only for the initial fresh- after- install- questions@, IMO.


This has not been true for a good while now.  Historically, nearly all 
our lists were indeed open.  In recent years, we've made most lists 
subscriber-only, with some exceptions and whitelists.



List back end responses to eg isp@ & hackers@ have recently migrated
from Mailman to Mlmmj, I guess that shouldn't directly affect spam
protection ?  but it'd be interesting to know what advantage the
migration might bring @freebsd.org ?


For one thing, running supported software means we can continue 
upgrading our mailservers with fewer worries.  Mailman 2 relies on 
Python 2, which has unfortunately become abandonware.


Philip

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Philip Paeps
Senior Reality Engineer
Alternative Enterprises



Re: Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists

2021-05-26 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Kurt Jaeger:

> Hi! 

> > > On May 25, 2021, at 8:53 PM, jake h  wrote: 

> > > I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently sent via
> > > this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; Your
> > > phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth.
> > > Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me?

> > I'm receiving these too. It looks like the servers are bouncing some of 
> > them just for me, even. And I'm receiving not just from this list; also 
> > from freebsd-hackers@ and ports@.

> postmaster@ is aware of the problem, we do not yet have a clear-cut
> solution and we're investigating.

Maybe the problem of bouncing messages is related to the spam problem?

I notice now there is an epidemic of multipart/alternative messages on FreeBSD 
lists, which is a recent change, not for the better.

I posted, several days ago (May 22), a question about bouncing messages, that 
was on freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org .

Tom




Re: Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists

2021-05-26 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> Hi!
> > > On May 25, 2021, at 8:53 PM, jake h  wrote:
> > > I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently sent via
> > > this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; Your
> > > phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth.
> > > Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me?
> > I'm receiving these too. It looks like the servers are bouncing some of 
> > them just for me, even. And I'm receiving not just from this list; also 
> > from freebsd-hackers@ and ports@.
> 
> postmaster@ is aware of the problem, we do not yet have a clear-cut
> solution and we're investigating.
> -- 
> p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372Now what ?

I'm on most lists & also seen much spam lately.

Changing Mailman list configs to only allowing postings from subscribed
addresses could dump nearly all spam;  (I'm a Mailman admin elsewhere ).

But @freebsd.org has prefered open lists for near all lists.
Best only for the initial fresh- after- install- questions@, IMO.

Mailman can also input from a spam phrases block list, though I haven't
much used that on lists I run, as subscriber only block near all.

Normaly the @freebsd.org anti spam mechanisms protect both lists & non lists.

List back end responses to eg isp@ & hackers@ have recently migrated
from Mailman to Mlmmj, I guess that shouldn't directly affect spam
protection ?  but it'd be interesting to know what advantage the
migration might bring @freebsd.org ?

  ( Though I couldn't migrate most lists I run from Mailman to
  Mlmmj, as many lists I run are mostly non techs, incompetent with
  anything beyond click & fumble.  Command lines of Majordomo &
  Mlmmj impossible for them )

Cheers,
-- 
Julian Stacey  http://berklix.com/jhs/  http://stolenvotes.uk
http://www.berklix.org/~jhs/mail/sorbs/  Unreliable spam black list extorter.



Re: Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists

2021-05-25 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

> > On May 25, 2021, at 8:53 PM, jake h  wrote:

> > I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently sent via
> > this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; Your
> > phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth.
> > Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me?

> I'm receiving these too. It looks like the servers are bouncing some of them 
> just for me, even. And I'm receiving not just from this list; also from 
> freebsd-hackers@ and ports@.

postmaster@ is aware of the problem, we do not yet have a clear-cut
solution and we're investigating.

-- 
p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372Now what ?



Re: Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists

2021-05-25 Thread Lucas Nali de Magalhães
> On May 25, 2021, at 8:53 PM, jake h  wrote:
> 
> I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently sent via
> this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; Your
> phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth.
> Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me?

I'm receiving these too. It looks like the servers are bouncing some of them 
just for me, even. And I'm receiving not just from this list; also from 
freebsd-hackers@ and ports@.

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Re: Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists

2021-05-25 Thread Manfred Antar (KN6KBS)
I got one this morning
Blackmail stuff - just delete it.

> On May 25, 2021, at 4:52 PM, jake h  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently sent via
> this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; Your
> phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth.
> Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me?
> Thanks,
> Jake




Spam mail being sent via the FreeBSD mailing lists

2021-05-25 Thread jake h
Hi everyone,
I have recently received several pieces of spam mail, apparently sent via
this mailing list. These pieces of mail are the usual spam formula; Your
phone has a virus, Ads, Fake blackmail, so on and so forth.
Has anyone else noticed these spam emails, or is it just me?
Thanks,
Jake