ia64 r255488: spontaneous reboots, no panic, no trace in logs

2013-11-02 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On r255488 ia64 I get spontaneous reboots,
which are more or less reproducible.
These are triggered by nginx serving poudriere built
packages.
The is no panic, and no traces in the logs.
The system just reboots.

A similar issue was seen in about 2011, when
we tried to build is64 packages on portscluster.
I think marcel@ gave up on it.

Has any new diagnostics been added since then?
Anything else I could try to see what is going
on prior to the reboot?

Thanks

Anton

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Re: Spontaneous reboots

1999-03-26 Thread Ben Smithurst
Brian Feldman wrote:

 It could. Ahem... are you absolutely certain there are no messages in
 /var/log/messages that happen before the reboot?

Completely certain, there was nothing in /var/log/all either (which as
the name suggests, all syslog messages are written to).

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Re: Spontaneous reboots

1999-03-25 Thread Ben Smithurst
Kris Kennaway wrote:

 Has anyone else been seeing this? What kind of information would help to
 narrow the problem down?

This has happened a few times on my -stable box, though not very
often. It just happened a few minutes ago, I wasn't doing anything on
the machine, I wasn't even logged in. No core dump or anything. :-( I'd
think nothing of it on a -current box, but it seems a bit worrying that
this sort of thing happens on a supposedly stable version. Mind you,
it could be a hardware problem I suppose.

Karl Pielorz wrote:

 The sort of thing we're looking for is, Which version of FreeBSD
 (I'd assume something -current because you posted to the -current
 mailing list, but how current?), what hardware (i.e. CPU type
 [Intel/AMD/Cyrix]) etc. - how much memory, what types of hard drive
 (SCSI vs. IDE) etc. - if you have any 'weird' hardware in there?

FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE, Cyrix 6x86 133MHz, 48MB RAM. I don't think I've got
any hardware I'd class as weird. Disk info,

$ mount
/dev/wd0s2a on / (local, noatime, writes: sync 5 async 17)
/dev/wd0s3c on /home (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 61)
/dev/wd2s1c on /tmp (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 31)
/dev/wd2s2e on /usr (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 86)
/dev/wd2s3e on /var (local, nosuid, soft-updates, writes: sync 318 async 470)
procfs on /proc (local)
$ swapinfo
Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
/dev/wd2s4b1606500   160522 0%Interleaved

I'm not sure how recent, the machine had been up for nearly 22 days, and
I think I rebuilt the world soon before that, so it's as of around the
beginning of March.

Brian Feldman wrote:

 He should proviide a full dmesg from bootverbose mode.

OK, I wonder if anyone can spot the problem in this (if indeed there is
something I've broken)...

Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #104: Tue Mar  2 18:29:08 GMT 1999
b...@scientia.demon.co.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/SCIENTIA
Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1193483 Hz
CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency
Timecounter i8254  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Cyrix 6x86 (486-class CPU)
  Origin = CyrixInstead  DIR=0x2231  Stepping=2  Revision=2
real memory  = 50331648 (49152K bytes)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x1000 - 0x0009, 651264 bytes (159 pages)
0x0020 - 0x02ffdfff, 48226304 bytes (11774 pages)
avail memory = 47013888 (45912K bytes)
Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xf00fad20
Entry = 0xfb1a0 (0xf00fb1a0)  Rev = 0  Len = 1
PCI BIOS entry at 0xb1d0
Other BIOS signatures found:
ACPI: 
$PnP: 000fbf50
pci_open(1):mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x805c
pci_open(1a):   mode1res=0x8000 (0x8000)
pci_cfgcheck:   device 0 [class=06] [hdr=00] is there (id=70308086)
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
found- vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7030, revid=0x02
class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
chip0: Intel 82437VX PCI cache memory controller rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0

PCI Concurrency: enabled
Cache: 256K pipelined-burst secondary; L1 enabled
DRAM: no memory hole, 66 MHz refresh
Read burst timing: x-2-2-2/x-3-3-3
Write burst timing: x-3-3-3
RAS-CAS delay: 3 clocks
found- vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7000, revid=0x01
class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
chip1: Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0
I/O Recovery Timing: 8-bit 2 clocks, 16-bit 1 clocks
Extended BIOS: disabled
Lower BIOS: disabled
Coprocessor IRQ13: enabled
Mouse IRQ12: disabled
Interrupt Routing: A: disabled, B: disabled, C: IRQ11, D: disabled
MB0: IRQ15, MB1: 
found- vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7010, revid=0x00
class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
map[0]: type 4, range 32, base f000, size  4
ide_pci0: Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1
intel_piix_status: primary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1
intel_piix_status: primary master fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post enabled,
intel_piix_status:  IORDY sampling enabled,
intel_piix_status:  fast PIO enabled
intel_piix_status: primary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1
intel_piix_status: primary slave fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post disabled,
intel_piix_status:  IORDY sampling disabled,
intel_piix_status:  fast PIO disabled
ide_pci: busmaster 0 status: 04 from port: f002
intel_piix_status: secondary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1
intel_piix_status: secondary master fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post enabled,
intel_piix_status:  IORDY sampling enabled,
intel_piix_status:  fast PIO enabled
intel_piix_status: secondary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1

Re: Spontaneous reboots

1999-03-25 Thread Nathan Ahlstrom

There was another report of a similar problem on -hackers.  Removing
the 'pseudo-device splash' seemed to fix things.  You might also try the
patches in this thread.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=715663+0+archive/1999/freebsd-hackers/19990307.freebsd-hackers

Nathan

Ben Smithurst b...@scientia.demon.co.uk wrote:
 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 
  Has anyone else been seeing this? What kind of information would help to
  narrow the problem down?
 
 This has happened a few times on my -stable box, though not very
 often. It just happened a few minutes ago, I wasn't doing anything on
 the machine, I wasn't even logged in. No core dump or anything. :-( I'd
 think nothing of it on a -current box, but it seems a bit worrying that
 this sort of thing happens on a supposedly stable version. Mind you,
 it could be a hardware problem I suppose.
 
 Karl Pielorz wrote:
 
  The sort of thing we're looking for is, Which version of FreeBSD
  (I'd assume something -current because you posted to the -current
  mailing list, but how current?), what hardware (i.e. CPU type
  [Intel/AMD/Cyrix]) etc. - how much memory, what types of hard drive
  (SCSI vs. IDE) etc. - if you have any 'weird' hardware in there?
 
 FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE, Cyrix 6x86 133MHz, 48MB RAM. I don't think I've got
 any hardware I'd class as weird. Disk info,
 
 $ mount
 /dev/wd0s2a on / (local, noatime, writes: sync 5 async 17)
 /dev/wd0s3c on /home (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 61)
 /dev/wd2s1c on /tmp (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 31)
 /dev/wd2s2e on /usr (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 86)
 /dev/wd2s3e on /var (local, nosuid, soft-updates, writes: sync 318 async 470)
 procfs on /proc (local)
 $ swapinfo
 Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
 /dev/wd2s4b1606500   160522 0%Interleaved
 
 I'm not sure how recent, the machine had been up for nearly 22 days, and
 I think I rebuilt the world soon before that, so it's as of around the
 beginning of March.
 
 Brian Feldman wrote:
 
  He should proviide a full dmesg from bootverbose mode.
 
 OK, I wonder if anyone can spot the problem in this (if indeed there is
 something I've broken)...
 
 Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #104: Tue Mar  2 18:29:08 GMT 1999
 b...@scientia.demon.co.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/SCIENTIA
 Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1193483 Hz
 CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency
 Timecounter i8254  frequency 1193182 Hz
 CPU: Cyrix 6x86 (486-class CPU)
   Origin = CyrixInstead  DIR=0x2231  Stepping=2  Revision=2
 real memory  = 50331648 (49152K bytes)
 Physical memory chunk(s):
 0x1000 - 0x0009, 651264 bytes (159 pages)
 0x0020 - 0x02ffdfff, 48226304 bytes (11774 pages)
 avail memory = 47013888 (45912K bytes)
 Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xf00fad20
 Entry = 0xfb1a0 (0xf00fb1a0)  Rev = 0  Len = 1
 PCI BIOS entry at 0xb1d0
 Other BIOS signatures found:
 ACPI: 
 $PnP: 000fbf50
 pci_open(1):  mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x805c
 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x8000 (0x8000)
 pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=06] [hdr=00] is there (id=70308086)
 Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
 found-   vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7030, revid=0x02
   class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
   subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
 chip0: Intel 82437VX PCI cache memory controller rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0
 
   PCI Concurrency: enabled
   Cache: 256K pipelined-burst secondary; L1 enabled
   DRAM: no memory hole, 66 MHz refresh
   Read burst timing: x-2-2-2/x-3-3-3
   Write burst timing: x-3-3-3
   RAS-CAS delay: 3 clocks
 found-   vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7000, revid=0x01
   class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
   subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
 chip1: Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0
   I/O Recovery Timing: 8-bit 2 clocks, 16-bit 1 clocks
   Extended BIOS: disabled
   Lower BIOS: disabled
   Coprocessor IRQ13: enabled
   Mouse IRQ12: disabled
   Interrupt Routing: A: disabled, B: disabled, C: IRQ11, D: disabled
   MB0: IRQ15, MB1: 
 found-   vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7010, revid=0x00
   class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
   subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
   map[0]: type 4, range 32, base f000, size  4
 ide_pci0: Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1
 intel_piix_status: primary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1
 intel_piix_status: primary master fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post enabled,
 intel_piix_status:  IORDY sampling enabled,
 intel_piix_status:  fast PIO enabled
 intel_piix_status: primary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1
 intel_piix_status: primary slave fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post disabled,
 intel_piix_status:  IORDY sampling disabled,
 

Re: Spontaneous reboots

1999-03-25 Thread Brian Feldman
On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Ben Smithurst wrote:

 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 
  Has anyone else been seeing this? What kind of information would help to
  narrow the problem down?
 
 This has happened a few times on my -stable box, though not very
 often. It just happened a few minutes ago, I wasn't doing anything on
 the machine, I wasn't even logged in. No core dump or anything. :-( I'd
 think nothing of it on a -current box, but it seems a bit worrying that
 this sort of thing happens on a supposedly stable version. Mind you,
 it could be a hardware problem I suppose.

It could. Ahem... are you absolutely certain there are no messages in
/var/log/messages that happen before the reboot?

 
 Karl Pielorz wrote:
 
  The sort of thing we're looking for is, Which version of FreeBSD
  (I'd assume something -current because you posted to the -current
  mailing list, but how current?), what hardware (i.e. CPU type
  [Intel/AMD/Cyrix]) etc. - how much memory, what types of hard drive
  (SCSI vs. IDE) etc. - if you have any 'weird' hardware in there?
 
 FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE, Cyrix 6x86 133MHz, 48MB RAM. I don't think I've got
 any hardware I'd class as weird. Disk info,
 
 $ mount
 /dev/wd0s2a on / (local, noatime, writes: sync 5 async 17)
 /dev/wd0s3c on /home (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 61)
 /dev/wd2s1c on /tmp (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 31)
 /dev/wd2s2e on /usr (local, soft-updates, writes: sync 2 async 86)
 /dev/wd2s3e on /var (local, nosuid, soft-updates, writes: sync 318 async 470)
 procfs on /proc (local)
 $ swapinfo
 Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
 /dev/wd2s4b1606500   160522 0%Interleaved
 
 I'm not sure how recent, the machine had been up for nearly 22 days, and
 I think I rebuilt the world soon before that, so it's as of around the
 beginning of March.
 
 Brian Feldman wrote:
 
  He should proviide a full dmesg from bootverbose mode.
 
 OK, I wonder if anyone can spot the problem in this (if indeed there is
 something I've broken)...
 
 Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #104: Tue Mar  2 18:29:08 GMT 1999
 b...@scientia.demon.co.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/SCIENTIA
 Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1193483 Hz
 CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency
 Timecounter i8254  frequency 1193182 Hz
 CPU: Cyrix 6x86 (486-class CPU)
   Origin = CyrixInstead  DIR=0x2231  Stepping=2  Revision=2
 real memory  = 50331648 (49152K bytes)
 Physical memory chunk(s):
 0x1000 - 0x0009, 651264 bytes (159 pages)
 0x0020 - 0x02ffdfff, 48226304 bytes (11774 pages)
 avail memory = 47013888 (45912K bytes)
 Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xf00fad20
 Entry = 0xfb1a0 (0xf00fb1a0)  Rev = 0  Len = 1
 PCI BIOS entry at 0xb1d0
 Other BIOS signatures found:
 ACPI: 
 $PnP: 000fbf50
 pci_open(1):  mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x805c
 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x8000 (0x8000)
 pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=06] [hdr=00] is there (id=70308086)
 Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
 found-   vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7030, revid=0x02
   class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
   subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
 chip0: Intel 82437VX PCI cache memory controller rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0
 
   PCI Concurrency: enabled
   Cache: 256K pipelined-burst secondary; L1 enabled
   DRAM: no memory hole, 66 MHz refresh
   Read burst timing: x-2-2-2/x-3-3-3
   Write burst timing: x-3-3-3
   RAS-CAS delay: 3 clocks
 found-   vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7000, revid=0x01
   class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
   subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
 chip1: Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0
   I/O Recovery Timing: 8-bit 2 clocks, 16-bit 1 clocks
   Extended BIOS: disabled
   Lower BIOS: disabled
   Coprocessor IRQ13: enabled
   Mouse IRQ12: disabled
   Interrupt Routing: A: disabled, B: disabled, C: IRQ11, D: disabled
   MB0: IRQ15, MB1: 
 found-   vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7010, revid=0x00
   class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
   subordinatebus=0secondarybus=0
   map[0]: type 4, range 32, base f000, size  4
 ide_pci0: Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1
 intel_piix_status: primary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1
 intel_piix_status: primary master fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post enabled,
 intel_piix_status:  IORDY sampling enabled,
 intel_piix_status:  fast PIO enabled
 intel_piix_status: primary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 1
 intel_piix_status: primary slave fastDMAonly disabled, pre/post disabled,
 intel_piix_status:  IORDY sampling disabled,
 intel_piix_status:  fast PIO disabled
 ide_pci: busmaster 0 status: 04 from port: f002
 intel_piix_status: secondary master/slave sample = 3, master/slave recovery = 
 

Spontaneous reboots

1999-03-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
For about the past week I've been getting spontaneous reboots on my machine.
As far as I can tell, there's no obvious common connection - most recently my
box was under load at the time, but the time before that all I did was move
the mouse (shades of Windows :-) and nothing else much was running.

This does only seem to happen when I'm using the machine - after a few hours,
a reboot is pretty much guaranteed (sounds like a resource leak of some kind
to me). Beyond that, I don't know. My kernel and machine config haven't
changed recently.

Has anyone else been seeing this? What kind of information would help to
narrow the problem down?

Kris

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   2. Think real hard
   3. Write down the solution



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Re: Spontaneous reboots

1999-03-23 Thread Karl Pielorz
Kris Kennaway wrote:
 
 For about the past week I've been getting spontaneous reboots on my machine.
 As far as I can tell, there's no obvious common connection - most recently my
 box was under load at the time, but the time before that all I did was move
 the mouse (shades of Windows :-) and nothing else much was running.
 
 This does only seem to happen when I'm using the machine - after a few hours,
 a reboot is pretty much guaranteed (sounds like a resource leak of some kind
 to me). Beyond that, I don't know. My kernel and machine config haven't
 changed recently.
 
 Has anyone else been seeing this? What kind of information would help to
 narrow the problem down?

The sort of thing we're looking for is, Which version of FreeBSD (I'd assume
something -current because you posted to the -current mailing list, but how
current?), what hardware (i.e. CPU type [Intel/AMD/Cyrix]) etc. - how much
memory, what types of hard drive (SCSI vs. IDE) etc. - if you have any 'weird'
hardware in there?

Also, you say when I moved the mouse - does that mean your machine lives in
X-Windows all the time? - Does it crash when it's not running X etc? What type
of video card does your machine have?

The more detail you can provide (without going too OTT :-) - The more likely
someone will be able to help :-) I have two boxes here tracking 4.0-current,
and so far (looking for a nice piece of wood to touch), I've not seen any
reboots on either for quite a long time (i.emonths) :)

-Karl


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Re: Spontaneous reboots

1999-03-23 Thread W Gerald Hicks

Sounds like a NMI generated by memory parity errors or motherboard
malfunction.

Good Luck,

Jerry Hicks
wghi...@bellsouth.net


From: Kris Kennaway kkenn...@physics.adelaide.edu.au
Subject: Spontaneous reboots
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:32:28 +0930 (CST)

 For about the past week I've been getting spontaneous reboots on my machine.
 As far as I can tell, there's no obvious common connection - most recently my
 box was under load at the time, but the time before that all I did was move
 the mouse (shades of Windows :-) and nothing else much was running.
 
 This does only seem to happen when I'm using the machine - after a few hours,
 a reboot is pretty much guaranteed (sounds like a resource leak of some kind
 to me). Beyond that, I don't know. My kernel and machine config haven't
 changed recently.
 
 Has anyone else been seeing this? What kind of information would help to
 narrow the problem down?
 
 Kris
 
 -
 The Feynman problem-solving algorithm: 1. Write down the problem
2. Think real hard
3. Write down the solution
 
 
 
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Re: Spontaneous reboots

1999-03-23 Thread Brian Feldman
On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote:

 Kris Kennaway wrote:
  
  For about the past week I've been getting spontaneous reboots on my machine.
  As far as I can tell, there's no obvious common connection - most recently 
  my
  box was under load at the time, but the time before that all I did was move
  the mouse (shades of Windows :-) and nothing else much was running.
  
  This does only seem to happen when I'm using the machine - after a few 
  hours,
  a reboot is pretty much guaranteed (sounds like a resource leak of some kind
  to me). Beyond that, I don't know. My kernel and machine config haven't
  changed recently.
  
  Has anyone else been seeing this? What kind of information would help to
  narrow the problem down?
 
 The sort of thing we're looking for is, Which version of FreeBSD (I'd assume
 something -current because you posted to the -current mailing list, but how
 current?), what hardware (i.e. CPU type [Intel/AMD/Cyrix]) etc. - how much
 memory, what types of hard drive (SCSI vs. IDE) etc. - if you have any 'weird'
 hardware in there?
 
 Also, you say when I moved the mouse - does that mean your machine lives in
 X-Windows all the time? - Does it crash when it's not running X etc? What type
 of video card does your machine have?
 
 The more detail you can provide (without going too OTT :-) - The more likely
 someone will be able to help :-) I have two boxes here tracking 4.0-current,
 and so far (looking for a nice piece of wood to touch), I've not seen any
 reboots on either for quite a long time (i.emonths) :)
 
 -Karl
 
 
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He should proviide a full dmesg from bootverbose mode. One thing I've seen is
that K6-2's in write allocated mode have big problems.

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HEADS UP: Spontaneous reboots

1999-02-09 Thread Blaz Zupan
Everybody who is experiencing spontaneous reboots under 3.0-STABLE or
4.0-CURRENT (and did not experience them with 2.2.8 or earlier) and cannot
find any indication of what could be wrong (nothing on the console and
nothing in syslog), please send me (in *private* mail) the output of
dmesg on your machine and your kernel configuration file. Also send a   
list of all daemons that are running on a freshly booted system and any
other information you think could be relevant.

If you are a commiter or a networking guru, even better. :) Please send
the above data, even if you have already responded to the Spontaneous 
reboots thread on this mailing list.

I'm trying to compile a list of hardware and software configurations that
experience the problem and see if there is something in common between   
them. If we want to fix the problem, we at least need a starting point.

For now it looks like it is a problem with the networking code, so please
send a description of what network activity is going on when you
experience the reboots.

I will summarize the responses I receive.

Also if you have a good idea how we could attack the problem, please speak
up. For now my idea is to find a common software and hardware
configuration and then try to sistematically remove components that could
cause the problem.

I have separetely posted this message to both freebsd-current and
freebsd-stable, as it seems to affect both branches. Please DO NOT respond
to the mailing list.

Thank you for your attention.

Blaz Zupan, b...@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz
Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia


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