Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-23 Thread Ruslan Ermilov

On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 11:08:54PM -0800, William Woods wrote:
> > It did, although I did eventually remake them.
> > 
> > I did:
> > mv /dev /dev.old
> > mkdir /dev
> > cp /usr/src/etc/MAKE* /dev
> > sh MAKEDEV all
> 
> This makes sence
> 
> > I also had to make the partition entries for my IDE drive:
> > 
> > sh MAKEDEV ad0s4a
> 
> Ahhok. So if my partitions are thus:
> 
> /dev/wd0s1a   9229851  2248506  624295726%/
> procfs  440   100%/proc 
> 
> I would do??
> 
Do nothing, except upgrade your /dev and /etc, just like
you did it when you were tracking -stable.  The new ata(4)
driver supports old wd(4) names, i.e. it will accept both
new adX and old wdX names.


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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread William Woods

> It did, although I did eventually remake them.
> 
> I did:
> mv /dev /dev.old
> mkdir /dev
> cp /usr/src/etc/MAKE* /dev
> sh MAKEDEV all

This makes sence

> I also had to make the partition entries for my IDE drive:
> 
> sh MAKEDEV ad0s4a

Ahhok. So if my partitions are thus:

/dev/wd0s1a   9229851  2248506  624295726%/
procfs  440   100%/proc 

I would do??


> Then I edited /etc/fstab to reflect the new devices --Very Important!
> 
> Of course I also ran mergemaster to update the /etc directory.
> That's it.

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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread R Joseph Wright

On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, William Woods wrote:

> 
> On 23-Feb-00 R Joseph Wright wrote:
> > 
> > make buildworld
> > make buildkernel &&make installkernel
> > Then reboot in single user mode
> > make -DNOINFO installworld
> > make buildkernel &&make installkernel (again)
> > make installworld
> > 
> > This worked for me perfectly.
> 
> Hmmm.the only question I have regarding this is does it handle the new
> devices corectly?

It did, although I did eventually remake them.

I did:
mv /dev /dev.old
mkdir /dev
cp /usr/src/etc/MAKE* /dev
sh MAKEDEV all

I also had to make the partition entries for my IDE drive:

sh MAKEDEV ad0s4a

Then I edited /etc/fstab to reflect the new devices --Very Important!

Of course I also ran mergemaster to update the /etc directory.
That's it.



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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread William Woods


On 23-Feb-00 R Joseph Wright wrote:
> 
> make buildworld
> make buildkernel &&make installkernel
> Then reboot in single user mode
> make -DNOINFO installworld
> make buildkernel &&make installkernel (again)
> make installworld
> 
> This worked for me perfectly.

Hmmm.the only question I have regarding this is does it handle the new
devices corectly?

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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread R Joseph Wright

On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> * William Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000222 21:27] wrote:
> > I did read that document, and honestly, it dident make a lot of sence and it
> > seemed to have some conflicting instructions.which is why I am asking here.
> 
> It looks pretty concise to me, perhaps you can explain the confusion
> so that we may fix it so as to help other users?

It seems like it contains good information for those who have
been on the track for awhile, while being a bit cryptic for
people new to the process.  Since this is a development version, I
suppose that's to be expected.
I followed the instructions that someone else posted on -questions:

make buildworld
make buildkernel &&make installkernel
Then reboot in single user mode
make -DNOINFO installworld
make buildkernel &&make installkernel (again)
make installworld

This worked for me perfectly.



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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread Will Andrews

On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 09:03:04PM -0800, William Woods wrote:
> cvsupped a few hours ago..

> > Specifics, specifics... and are you sure you're looking at an

Specifics please.

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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread William Woods

Well, I guess what confused me is the order

I would assume that the last entry, being the newest, would have all the steps
listed that are currently needed. Maby its just me and, I am really not tyring
to cause a hassle, maby I am reading it wrong.

It seems to me that you need to piece together what you need be applying past
steps and seeing what has changed. I guess what I am looking for is a :

1) xx
2) xx
3) xx

type of thing.

Again, thats what confused me. Maby others can see it fine, but it lost me.

Thanks

On 23-Feb-00 Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * William Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000222 21:27] wrote:
>> I did read that document, and honestly, it dident make a lot of sence and it
>> seemed to have some conflicting instructions.which is why I am asking
>> here.
> 
> It looks pretty concise to me, perhaps you can explain the confusion
> so that we may fix it so as to help other users?
> 
> -Alfred
> 
>> 
>> On 23-Feb-00 Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>> > * William Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000222 21:19] wrote:
>> >> Hey,
>> >> 
>> >> I have been following the disscussions here for a while, just trying to
>> >> get
>> >> a
>> >> feel of what the transition from 3.4-stable 4.0-release will be like. I
>> >> am
>> >> running -current on my alpha, but that was a fresh install. I am debating
>> >> trying -current on my laptop, but before we go there, I would like to
>> >> inquire
>> >> as to what shape the transition is in. Are there steps posted somewhere
>> >> that
>> >> work?
>> >> 
>> >> Also, what condition (I know, I am asking you to read the future) do you
>> >> expect
>> >> the transition to be like at the end of the month when 4.0 -release comes
>> >> out.
>> >> 
>> >> Lastly, if I were to be so brave as to go from 3.4 to 4.0 -current now,
>> >> where
>> >> would I find the nessary instructions?
>> > 
>> > Please see src/UPDATING


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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> William Woods writes:
: I read that...I must say it is a bit confusing and in some places contradictory

I'm not surprising that it is confusing.  It is hard to hit a moving
target like current.  And things have often are contradictory...

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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread Will Andrews

On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 08:57:35PM -0800, William Woods wrote:
> > 4.0-CURRENT running with a 3Com 3CCFE574BT PC-Card. :-)
> 
> I have that same card

Works great on 4.0-CURRENT, which I'm sure you'll be glad to know. If
you have any trouble getting it to work, just drop me a line and I'll
help you debug it. :-)

I've been able to get 1.2MB/sec on half-duplex 100BaseTX.

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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread Alfred Perlstein

* William Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000222 21:27] wrote:
> I did read that document, and honestly, it dident make a lot of sence and it
> seemed to have some conflicting instructions.which is why I am asking here.

It looks pretty concise to me, perhaps you can explain the confusion
so that we may fix it so as to help other users?

-Alfred

> 
> On 23-Feb-00 Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > * William Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000222 21:19] wrote:
> >> Hey,
> >> 
> >> I have been following the disscussions here for a while, just trying to get
> >> a
> >> feel of what the transition from 3.4-stable 4.0-release will be like. I am
> >> running -current on my alpha, but that was a fresh install. I am debating
> >> trying -current on my laptop, but before we go there, I would like to
> >> inquire
> >> as to what shape the transition is in. Are there steps posted somewhere that
> >> work?
> >> 
> >> Also, what condition (I know, I am asking you to read the future) do you
> >> expect
> >> the transition to be like at the end of the month when 4.0 -release comes
> >> out.
> >> 
> >> Lastly, if I were to be so brave as to go from 3.4 to 4.0 -current now,
> >> where
> >> would I find the nessary instructions?
> > 
> > Please see src/UPDATING


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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread William Woods

cvsupped a few hours ago..

On 23-Feb-00 Will Andrews wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 08:54:14PM -0800, William Woods wrote:
>> I did read that document, and honestly, it dident make a lot of sence and it
>> seemed to have some conflicting instructions.which is why I am asking
>> here.
> 
> Specifics, specifics... and are you sure you're looking at an
> _UP_TO_DATE_ copy of src/UPDATING ?
> 
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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread Will Andrews

On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 08:54:14PM -0800, William Woods wrote:
> I did read that document, and honestly, it dident make a lot of sence and it
> seemed to have some conflicting instructions.which is why I am asking here.

Specifics, specifics... and are you sure you're looking at an
_UP_TO_DATE_ copy of src/UPDATING ?

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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread William Woods


On 23-Feb-00 Will Andrews wrote:
 
> See src/UPDATING.

I read that...I must say it is a bit confusing and in some places contradictory
 
> I made the transition on my laptop from 3.3-RELEASE to 4.0-CURRENT about
> six months ago, so my experience wouldn't help you much, unfortunately.
> 
> However, I would just like to say that I'm very happy with my
> 4.0-CURRENT running with a 3Com 3CCFE574BT PC-Card. :-)

I have that same card

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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread Will Andrews

On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 08:45:28PM -0800, William Woods wrote:
> I have been following the disscussions here for a while, just trying to get a
> feel of what the transition from 3.4-stable 4.0-release will be like. I am
> running -current on my alpha, but that was a fresh install. I am debating
> trying -current on my laptop, but before we go there, I would like to inquire
> as to what shape the transition is in. Are there steps posted somewhere that
> work?

See src/UPDATING.

I made the transition on my laptop from 3.3-RELEASE to 4.0-CURRENT about
six months ago, so my experience wouldn't help you much, unfortunately.

However, I would just like to say that I'm very happy with my
4.0-CURRENT running with a 3Com 3CCFE574BT PC-Card. :-)

> Also, what condition (I know, I am asking you to read the future) do you expect
> the transition to be like at the end of the month when 4.0 -release comes out.

Should be fairly easy, if you do it the cvsup/make world way.. there's a
lot of different thorns here and there so I'm not real sure what it
would be like once 4.0-RELEASE goes out.

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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread William Woods

I did read that document, and honestly, it dident make a lot of sence and it
seemed to have some conflicting instructions.which is why I am asking here.

On 23-Feb-00 Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * William Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000222 21:19] wrote:
>> Hey,
>> 
>> I have been following the disscussions here for a while, just trying to get
>> a
>> feel of what the transition from 3.4-stable 4.0-release will be like. I am
>> running -current on my alpha, but that was a fresh install. I am debating
>> trying -current on my laptop, but before we go there, I would like to
>> inquire
>> as to what shape the transition is in. Are there steps posted somewhere that
>> work?
>> 
>> Also, what condition (I know, I am asking you to read the future) do you
>> expect
>> the transition to be like at the end of the month when 4.0 -release comes
>> out.
>> 
>> Lastly, if I were to be so brave as to go from 3.4 to 4.0 -current now,
>> where
>> would I find the nessary instructions?
> 
> Please see src/UPDATING
> 
> thanks,
> -Alfred


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Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread Alfred Perlstein

* William Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000222 21:19] wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I have been following the disscussions here for a while, just trying to get a
> feel of what the transition from 3.4-stable 4.0-release will be like. I am
> running -current on my alpha, but that was a fresh install. I am debating
> trying -current on my laptop, but before we go there, I would like to inquire
> as to what shape the transition is in. Are there steps posted somewhere that
> work?
> 
> Also, what condition (I know, I am asking you to read the future) do you expect
> the transition to be like at the end of the month when 4.0 -release comes out.
> 
> Lastly, if I were to be so brave as to go from 3.4 to 4.0 -current now, where
> would I find the nessary instructions?

Please see src/UPDATING

thanks,
-Alfred


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Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0...

2000-02-22 Thread William Woods

Hey,

I have been following the disscussions here for a while, just trying to get a
feel of what the transition from 3.4-stable 4.0-release will be like. I am
running -current on my alpha, but that was a fresh install. I am debating
trying -current on my laptop, but before we go there, I would like to inquire
as to what shape the transition is in. Are there steps posted somewhere that
work?

Also, what condition (I know, I am asking you to read the future) do you expect
the transition to be like at the end of the month when 4.0 -release comes out.

Lastly, if I were to be so brave as to go from 3.4 to 4.0 -current now, where
would I find the nessary instructions?

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