Re: Vmware and -current

1999-12-25 Thread Greg Lehey

On Thursday, 23 December 1999 at 21:29:08 -0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
>
> seems to work fine,
> except that now we don't have block devices any more
> so every time it gets stuff off disk, it's REALLY SLOW.
>
> I guess a virtual machine is the "App that no-one could put their finger
> on" that really could do with buffered (caching) devices.
>
> of course this is w98.

Strange.  Windows 98% does its own buffering.  I suppose this really
boils down to the relative efficiency of the two buffering methods :-)

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Re: Vmware and -current

1999-12-24 Thread Julian Elischer



On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> 
> It is not out of the question to bring buffered disk access back,
> but it will be an ioctl enabled function for disks, not a vnode
> mode.  Peter has suggested doing it with a layered device a'la vn(4).

Actually that was me.




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Re: Vmware and -current

1999-12-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas David Rivers writes
:
>> seems to work fine,
>> except that now we don't have block devices any more 
>> so every time it gets stuff off disk, it's REALLY SLOW.
>> 
>> I guess a virtual machine is the "App that no-one could put their finger
>> on" that really could do with buffered (caching) devices.
>
>Hmmm I wonder what it would take to bring them (block devices) back... 
>probably out of the question at this point...

It is not out of the question to bring buffered disk access back,
but it will be an ioctl enabled function for disks, not a vnode
mode.  Peter has suggested doing it with a layered device a'la vn(4).

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Re: Vmware and -current

1999-12-24 Thread Thomas David Rivers

> seems to work fine,
> except that now we don't have block devices any more 
> so every time it gets stuff off disk, it's REALLY SLOW.
> 
> I guess a virtual machine is the "App that no-one could put their finger
> on" that really could do with buffered (caching) devices.

Hmmm I wonder what it would take to bring them (block devices) back... 
probably out of the question at this point...

> 
> of course this is w98.
> FreeBSD 1.1.5 and freebsd 3.3 seem run as well but I've only run them off
> virtual disks (which therefore have buffering)
> 

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Vmware and -current

1999-12-23 Thread Julian Elischer


seems to work fine,
except that now we don't have block devices any more 
so every time it gets stuff off disk, it's REALLY SLOW.

I guess a virtual machine is the "App that no-one could put their finger
on" that really could do with buffered (caching) devices.

of course this is w98.
FreeBSD 1.1.5 and freebsd 3.3 seem run as well but I've only run them off
virtual disks (which therefore have buffering)




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