Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Terry Lambert wrote:

"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:

>>"device cloning" is really a wrong name for this, and I regret that
>>I every used that term.  "On demand device creation" is closer,
>>but it doesn't have any sort of ring to it.
>
>Worst of all, "device cloning" is one of Terry's buzzwords. :-)
Actually, it's an SVR4/AIX/Solaris/Any-UNIX-Except-FreeBSD buzzword.

8-).
So... are we buzzword-compliant now? :-)

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Terry Lambert
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
> > "device cloning" is really a wrong name for this, and I regret that
> > I every used that term.  "On demand device creation" is closer,
> > but it doesn't have any sort of ring to it.
> 
> Worst of all, "device cloning" is one of Terry's buzzwords. :-)

Actually, it's an SVR4/AIX/Solaris/Any-UNIX-Except-FreeBSD buzzword.

8-).

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ruslan Ermilov writes:


Because of "device cloning"; devices are created on demand.


"device cloning" is really a wrong name for this, and I regret that
I every used that term.  "On demand device creation" is closer,
but it doesn't have any sort of ring to it.
Worst of all, "device cloning" is one of Terry's buzzwords. :-)

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Bradley T Hughes
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 17:06, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
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> "device cloning" is really a wrong name for this, and I regret that
> I every used that term.  "On demand device creation" is closer,
> but it doesn't have any sort of ring to it.

... but "device on demand" does have a ring to it :)

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ruslan Ermilov writes:

>Because of "device cloning"; devices are created on demand.

"device cloning" is really a wrong name for this, and I regret that
I every used that term.  "On demand device creation" is closer,
but it doesn't have any sort of ring to it.

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:41:54PM +0100, Flag_reda wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:14:08PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > Try "ls -l /dev/bpf0" instead, etc.  Beware of DEVFS surprises.  :-)
> 
> It works
> 
> But, why it works like this?!?!?
>  
> /me confused =P
> 
Because of "device cloning"; devices are created on demand.


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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Flag_reda
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:14:08PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> Try "ls -l /dev/bpf0" instead, etc.  Beware of DEVFS surprises.  :-)

It works

But, why it works like this?!?!?
 
/me confused =P

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:07:04PM +0100, Paolo Pisati wrote:
> 
> Added device bpf to my kernel config file, make a buildkenel&installkernel,
> rebooted but there's not bpf in /dev:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ grep bpf /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/SOUTHCROSS
> device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ uname -a
> FreeBSD southcross.skynet.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #25: Tue Mar 11 
> 12:49:54 CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SOUTHCROSS  i386
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ ls /dev/bpf*
> ls: /dev/bpf*: No such file or directory
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$
> 
> I need it for tcpdump, 
> any idea how to fix it?
> 
Try "ls -l /dev/bpf0" instead, etc.  Beware of DEVFS surprises.  :-)


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What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Paolo Pisati

Added device bpf to my kernel config file, make a buildkenel&installkernel,
rebooted but there's not bpf in /dev:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ grep bpf /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/SOUTHCROSS
device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ uname -a
FreeBSD southcross.skynet.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #25: Tue Mar 11 12:49:54 
CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SOUTHCROSS  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ ls /dev/bpf*
ls: /dev/bpf*: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$

I need it for tcpdump, 
any idea how to fix it?

Thanks.

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What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Paolo Pisati

Added device bpf to my kernel config file, make a buildkenel&installkernel,
rebooted but there's not bpf in /dev:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ grep bpf /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/SOUTHCROSS
device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ uname -a
FreeBSD southcross.skynet.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #25: Tue Mar 11 12:49:54 
CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SOUTHCROSS  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ ls /dev/bpf*
ls: /dev/bpf*: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$

I need it for tcpdump, 
any idea how to fix it?

Thanks.

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What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Paolo Pisati

Added device bpf to my kernel config file, make a buildkenel&installkernel,
rebooted but there's not bpf in /dev:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ grep bpf /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/SOUTHCROSS
device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ uname -a
FreeBSD southcross.skynet.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #25: Tue Mar 11 12:49:54 
CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SOUTHCROSS  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ ls /dev/bpf*
ls: /dev/bpf*: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$

I need it for tcpdump, 
any idea how to fix it?

Thanks.

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