Re: bootstrapping network (bcm) on Dell D800

2003-08-14 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:40:18AM -0400, Andre Guibert de Bruet wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:

> > I finally figureed out that the removable floppy (which works both as an
> > external usb and internall) is treated as a scsi device, not /dev/fd0.
> > So I tried moving the drivers from the up to date machine.  No dice;
> > they depend on another changed function.

> > So I borrowed a usb zip drive, and found that a bzip2'd source tree is
> > only 83M.  I've moved that, and have a new kernel compiling from a
> > source tree updated this morning.  Am I going to have to do anything
> > else to get the bge device detected, or will it just kernel installation
> > and reboot take care of this?

> If you've compiled the driver into the kernel, all you'll have to do is
> configure the IP settings for the device. If you intend on using the
> kernel loadable module, you'll have to kldload it before you configure
> the network settings.

All is now well, and I have my regular programs building.  DHCP network
configuration even worked flawlessly.  I have a permanent IP for the
thing, but this (should) let me plug into the sockets at our main
library as well (and I assume it will give me less hassle with ppp,
too!)

thanks

hawk
> 
> Regards,
> 
> > Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant >
> > Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/>

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Re: bootstrapping network (bcm) on Dell D800

2003-08-14 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 08:48:20AM -0400, David Gilbert wrote:
> > "Andre" == Andre Guibert de Bruet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Andre> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:



> Andre> Does this new toy have a 32-bit pci slot available? If so, pop
> Andre> in a nic (temporarily), cvsup and/or grab the needed patches
> Andre> and rebuild away!
> 
> It has a mini-pci slot.  You'd have a hard time getting an ethernet
> card in there.  Having just had a look at the patch, it's a little
> large to be typing in by hand.

> Here's the options I see for you:

> 1) the D800 has a serial port (rare on today's laptops).  Hook up a
> modem or a null serial cable and network thusly to cvsup.

> 2) the D800 has a pccard slot.  Find someone with a wireless or
> ethernet card.



I finally figureed out that the removable floppy (which works both as an
external usb and internall) is treated as a scsi device, not /dev/fd0.
So I tried moving the drivers from the up to date machine.  No dice;
they depend on another changed function.

So I borrowed a usb zip drive, and found that a bzip2'd source tree is
only 83M.  I've moved that, and have a new kernel compiling from a
source tree updated this morning.  Am I going to have to do anything
else to get the bge device detected, or will it just kernel installation
and reboot take care of this?

thanks

hawk
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Re: bootstrapping network (bcm) on Dell D800

2003-08-14 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet

On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:

> If I'm reading the recent messages correctly, the bcm driver won't work
> unless updated to approximately July 17.
>
> I burned 5.1 iso's, and installed most of it successfully.  How do I
> bootstrap the network.  I saw Bill Paul's references to testing a patch
> prior to committing it.  Is this something I can apply singly to the
> source that comes on the ISO (and if so, just where do I grab it?), and
> then build a kernel, reboot, and update the rest of the source?
>
> thanks
>
> hawk, anxious to play with his new toy

Does this new toy have a 32-bit pci slot available? If so, pop in a nic
(temporarily), cvsup and/or grab the needed patches and rebuild away!

Regards,

> Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant >
> Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/>

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Re: bootstrapping network (bcm) on Dell D800

2003-08-14 Thread David Gilbert
> "Andre" == Andre Guibert de Bruet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Andre> I'm under the impression that pretty much all of the 8xx-series
Andre> Latitudes have DB9 ports (Including C800, C820 and friends).

That may entirely be, but many of my local UN*X friends have ended up
with laptops from major vendors that don't include serial ports.

Several, running NetBSD, get serial from USB devices.  I don't know
the status of FreeBSD's USB-serial support.

Dave.

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Re: bootstrapping network (bcm) on Dell D800

2003-08-14 Thread David Gilbert
> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins  writes:

Richard> I finally figureed out that the removable floppy (which works
Richard> both as an external usb and internall) is treated as a scsi
Richard> device, not /dev/fd0.  So I tried moving the drivers from the
Richard> up to date machine.  No dice; they depend on another changed
Richard> function.

Richard> So I borrowed a usb zip drive, and found that a bzip2'd
Richard> source tree is only 83M.  I've moved that, and have a new
Richard> kernel compiling from a source tree updated this morning.  Am
Richard> I going to have to do anything else to get the bge device
Richard> detected, or will it just kernel installation and reboot take
Richard> care of this?

The bge device is in the kernel by default... so as long as you didn't
delete it, you'll be fine.

I forgot to mention that the system appears to be PXE compatible... so
you could PXE boot a newly compiled kernel (you need pxeboot and
kernel.GENERIC with new drivers on the boot server.  You can even have
a kernel with the mfsroot compiled into it on the boot server).

Dave.

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Re: bootstrapping network (bcm) on Dell D800

2003-08-14 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 08:48:20AM -0400, David Gilbert wrote:
>
> I finally figureed out that the removable floppy (which works both as an
> external usb and internall) is treated as a scsi device, not /dev/fd0.
> So I tried moving the drivers from the up to date machine.  No dice;
> they depend on another changed function.
>
> So I borrowed a usb zip drive, and found that a bzip2'd source tree is
> only 83M.  I've moved that, and have a new kernel compiling from a
> source tree updated this morning.  Am I going to have to do anything
> else to get the bge device detected, or will it just kernel installation
> and reboot take care of this?

If you've compiled the driver into the kernel, all you'll have to do is
configure the IP settings for the device. If you intend on using the
kernel loadable module, you'll have to kldload it before you configure
the network settings.

Regards,

> Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant >
> Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/>
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Re: bootstrapping network (bcm) on Dell D800

2003-08-07 Thread David Gilbert
> "Andre" == Andre Guibert de Bruet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Andre> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:

>> If I'm reading the recent messages correctly, the bcm driver won't
>> work unless updated to approximately July 17.
>> 
>> I burned 5.1 iso's, and installed most of it successfully.  How do
>> I bootstrap the network.  I saw Bill Paul's references to testing a
>> patch prior to committing it.  Is this something I can apply singly
>> to the source that comes on the ISO (and if so, just where do I
>> grab it?), and then build a kernel, reboot, and update the rest of
>> the source?

Andre> Does this new toy have a 32-bit pci slot available? If so, pop
Andre> in a nic (temporarily), cvsup and/or grab the needed patches
Andre> and rebuild away!

It has a mini-pci slot.  You'd have a hard time getting an ethernet
card in there.  Having just had a look at the patch, it's a little
large to be typing in by hand.

Here's the options I see for you:

1) the D800 has a serial port (rare on today's laptops).  Hook up a
modem or a null serial cable and network thusly to cvsup.

2) the D800 has a pccard slot.  Find someone with a wireless or
ethernet card.

3) the D800 has usb2 and firewire... both of which can have ethernet

4) if you remove your hard drive, you can cheaply get a dodad that
will convert the mini ide connector to a regular one.

5) burn a CD or a DVD on another machine with the new src tree.

Dave.

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bootstrapping network (bcm) on Dell D800

2003-08-07 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
If I'm reading the recent messages correctly, the bcm driver won't work
unless updated to approximately July 17.

I burned 5.1 iso's, and installed most of it successfully.  How do I
bootstrap the network.  I saw Bill Paul's references to testing a patch
prior to committing it.  Is this something I can apply singly to the
source that comes on the ISO (and if so, just where do I grab it?), and
then build a kernel, reboot, and update the rest of the source?

thanks

hawk, anxious to play with his new toy
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Re: bootstrapping network (bcm) on Dell D800

2003-08-06 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet


On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, David Gilbert wrote:

> > "Andre" == Andre Guibert de Bruet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Andre> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:
>
> >> If I'm reading the recent messages correctly, the bcm driver won't
> >> work unless updated to approximately July 17.
> >>
> >> I burned 5.1 iso's, and installed most of it successfully.  How do
> >> I bootstrap the network.  I saw Bill Paul's references to testing a
> >> patch prior to committing it.  Is this something I can apply singly
> >> to the source that comes on the ISO (and if so, just where do I
> >> grab it?), and then build a kernel, reboot, and update the rest of
> >> the source?
>
> Andre> Does this new toy have a 32-bit pci slot available? If so, pop
> Andre> in a nic (temporarily), cvsup and/or grab the needed patches
> Andre> and rebuild away!
>
> It has a mini-pci slot.  You'd have a hard time getting an ethernet
> card in there.  Having just had a look at the patch, it's a little
> large to be typing in by hand.

Actually, you can get mini-pci wireless and wired nics. When I first
posted, I didn't realize that the machine in question was a Latitude
D800. Popping in a nic would require dismantling the unit, which you
probably don't want to do... :-)

> Here's the options I see for you:
>
> 1) the D800 has a serial port (rare on today's laptops).  Hook up a
> modem or a null serial cable and network thusly to cvsup.

I'm under the impression that pretty much all of the 8xx-series
Latitudes have DB9 ports (Including C800, C820 and friends).

> 2) the D800 has a pccard slot.  Find someone with a wireless or
> ethernet card.
>
> 3) the D800 has usb2 and firewire... both of which can have ethernet
>
> 4) if you remove your hard drive, you can cheaply get a dodad that
> will convert the mini ide connector to a regular one.
>
> 5) burn a CD or a DVD on another machine with the new src tree.

Regards,

> Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant >
> Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/>
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