Re: gcc and FreeBSD [was: Re: Which GCC in CURRENT? [Was: Re: Wine update]]

2000-10-18 Thread David O'Brien

On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 04:40:53PM -0400, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> > Should any of you have some time to spend, those two PRs I mentioned above
> > are really critical.  

I have issues with one of them -- IMHO FSF/GCC should not assume the
existence of crt{i,n}.o since they supply their own crt{begin,end}.o
(thru crtstuff.c).  There is obivious assumpitons by crtstuff.c on what
crt{i,n}.o supplies, and thus seems logical GCC come with its own
crt{i,n}.s.  This is not to say I am unbending on this (and it also
carries over into JDP's teritory), but I do want to rasie this issue on
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] (after BSDcon) mailing list to see what they say.  

> David: Can you take a look at it, or shall I try to free some time for
> this. It sounds important enough from what I understand from Gerald.

I am tied up at BSDcon for the week.  So I'll reply to this thread better
later.
 
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Re: gcc and FreeBSD [was: Re: Which GCC in CURRENT? [Was: Re: Wine update]]

2000-10-17 Thread Marcel Moolenaar

Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> 
> Upgrades are not painless at all on FreeBSD, because of some additional
> hacks you/we are using. See the following two PRs for examples that cost
> me quite some time each (and are still open):
> 
>   http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20966
>   http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21983
> 
> If the first PR is not resolved in time for the GCC 3.0 release process
> (which is not that far ahead), FreeBSD might even be dropped from the list
> of secondary evaluation platforms for GCC 3.0. :-(

This worries me. We should not alienate ourself from the development of
"our" toolchain. Ideally, we should have no FreeBSD patches of our own.

> In any case, the bug does prevent regular GCC developers and testers from
> using FreeBSD -- not a good thing, either! :-(

Agreed.

> On the other hand, lately David O'Brien has submitted several patches for
> the FreeBSD ports to GCC, most (all?) of which have been reviewed and
> integrated quickly, so there is a good chance that the difference between
> the FreeBSD version of GCC and FSF GCC will be further reduced. :-)

I don't follow the gcc lists too closely. Time... All I know is that
there was a bit more work to do.

David?

> Should any of you have some time to spend, those two PRs I mentioned above
> are really critical.  

Of course time is always the issue :-)

David: Can you take a look at it, or shall I try to free some time for
this. It sounds important enough from what I understand from Gerald.

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