Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA
Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: since about one day kill 1 and init 1 don't work anymore! Now I don't know how to change to single user mode from normal boot now. man shutdown DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA
* Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031116 23:42]: Content-Description: signed data On Monday 17 November 2003 05:25, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:39:08AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data Salve, since about one day kill 1 and init 1 don't work anymore! Now I don't know how to change to single user mode from normal boot now. shutdown -r now will reboot the system. There are a number of ways to get to single user mode as the system is rebooting. I know that, but I'd like to change to singleuser mode like before. `shutdown` by itself with no options will bring the system down into single-user mode. --Mike pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA
Salve, since about one day kill 1 and init 1 don't work anymore! Now I don't know how to change to single user mode from normal boot now. Usually I do installworld in singleuser mode. Then I see the following lines on dmesg which I don't know how to hanlde: 1) warning: KLD '/boot/kernel/linprocfs.ko' is newer than the linker.hints file perhaps recompiling linux-base? 2) module_register: module uhub/ums already exists! Module uhub/ums failed to register: 17 Then I still have the problem that hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 seems to have no effect. When I do atacontrol mode 1 I get: cale:/home/harry# atacontrol mode 1 Master = PIO4 Slave = BIOSPIO But sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma showes: cale:/home/harry# sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1 Setting UDMA33 with atacontrol is working. Although it's easy to add a rc.local which does that task it's not the intetion of sysctls I think. Next I'd like to report is what I already mentioned in ULE and very bad responsiveness I followed Jeff Roberson hint and ran setiathome with nice 20. But this didn't really change anything. With ULE and setiathome in the backgroug it's almost impossible to wait until a simple make clean from ports is done. I waited at least a quater of an hour where SCHED_4BSD needs about 15 Seconds (aof course, also running seti in the backgorund) Even if I don't have seti running I can _feel_ significantly difference between ULE and 4BSD. ULE feels more sluggish with daily work under kde314 and if you wan't to replay two mpegs at the same time it's impossible with ULE (mplayer) where 4BSD has absolutely no problems (with our without seti, doesnt make big difference) So long, thank you all, -Harry pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA
On Monday 17 November 2003 05:25, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:39:08AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data Salve, since about one day kill 1 and init 1 don't work anymore! Now I don't know how to change to single user mode from normal boot now. shutdown -r now will reboot the system. There are a number of ways to get to single user mode as the system is rebooting. I know that, but I'd like to change to singleuser mode like before. Note: your method does not boot the new kernel and Kirk's recent statfs changes may cause all sorts of problems for you. No, I had running a kernel with the new statfs changes without any problems. It's smoething shortly changed after the statfs changes. I'm very sure! Usually I do installworld in singleuser mode. You should reboot. No. Then I see the following lines on dmesg which I don't know how to hanlde: 1) warning: KLD '/boot/kernel/linprocfs.ko' is newer than the linker.hints file perhaps recompiling linux-base? 2) module_register: module uhub/ums already exists! Module uhub/ums failed to register: 17 Do you see these messages if you reboot the system? Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry if that wasn't clear. These lines show up while booting Next I'd like to report is what I already mentioned in ULE and very bad responsiveness I followed Jeff Roberson hint and ran setiathome with nice 20. But this didn't really change anything. ULE has been rock solid for mei since Jeff's last major update. Of course, I run neither setiathome nor KDE. Give setiathome a try! You'll be astonished. And I'm sure the difference I _feel_ isn't dependend on kde. If you don't like kde replace it with our favourite wm/desktop. But you won't be able to play two mid to high-quality mpegs at the same time on a 1GHz machine where 4BSD scheduler does very well! I haven't claimed ULE to be unstable though. I just wanted to highlight some issues which will be a big problem if 5.2-releas will have ULE as default! -Harry pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Monday 17 November 2003 05:25, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:39:08AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data Next I'd like to report is what I already mentioned in ULE and very bad responsiveness I followed Jeff Roberson hint and ran setiathome with nice 20. But this didn't really change anything. ULE has been rock solid for me since Jeff's last major update. Of course, I run neither setiathome nor KDE. Give setiathome a try! You'll be astonished. No thanks. It's a waste of CPU cycle. And I'm sure the difference I _feel_ isn't dependend on kde. If you don't like kde replace it with our favourite wm/desktop. I prefer fvwm2. ULE works fairly well. But you won't be able to play two mid to high-quality mpegs at the same time on a 1GHz machine where 4BSD scheduler does very well! I can assure you that the numerical simulations I run, along with the make worlds, and compilations of gcc's tree-ssa branch stress the system. I re-install over 100 ports today and the load average was rarely below 5. I was use linux-opera and knews and sylpheed and several other program and noticed nor degradation in responsiveness. Does seti cause a problem if you are not running X (or KDE). I haven't claimed ULE to be unstable though. I just wanted to highlight some issues which will be a big problem if 5.2-releas will have ULE as default! If ULE is destined to be the default scheduler in 5-stable, then we need to have more people test it. -- Steve ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA
On Monday 17 November 2003 06:08, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Monday 17 November 2003 05:25, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:39:08AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data Next I'd like to report is what I already mentioned in ULE and very bad responsiveness I followed Jeff Roberson hint and ran setiathome with nice 20. But this didn't really change anything. ULE has been rock solid for me since Jeff's last major update. Of course, I run neither setiathome nor KDE. Give setiathome a try! You'll be astonished. No thanks. It's a waste of CPU cycle. Well, certainly you're rigth. But I have spare cycles and with 4BSD scheduler they were handled very well. And I'm sure the difference I _feel_ isn't dependend on kde. If you don't like kde replace it with our favourite wm/desktop. I prefer fvwm2. ULE works fairly well. But you won't be able to play two mid to high-quality mpegs at the same time on a 1GHz machine where 4BSD scheduler does very well! I can assure you that the numerical simulations I run, along with the make worlds, and compilations of gcc's tree-ssa branch stress the system. I re-install over 100 ports today and the load average was rarely below 5. I was use linux-opera and knews and sylpheed and several other program and noticed nor degradation in responsiveness. Does seti cause a problem if you are not running X (or KDE). Yes. The difference is the same. Like I originally mentioned (on one single cons25) with seti in the background (doesn't matter if nice is 15 or 20) it's almost impossible to wait until a make clean of a port with little dependencies (like nvidia-driver) finishes. I haven't claimed ULE to be unstable though. I just wanted to highlight some issues which will be a big problem if 5.2-releas will have ULE as default! If ULE is destined to be the default scheduler in 5-stable, then we need to have more people test it. I can copy that. That's the reason why I started to try ULE. The notes in the kernel didn't convince me really;) It was a thread in a newsgroup and after posting my problems Kris told me to post in -current. Best regards, -Harry pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA
On Monday 17 November 2003 06:08, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: *SNIP* I can assure you that the numerical simulations I run, along with the make worlds, and compilations of gcc's tree-ssa branch stress the system. I re-install over 100 ports today and the load average was rarely below 5. I was use linux-opera and knews and sylpheed and several other program and noticed nor degradation in responsiveness. Does seti cause a problem if you are not running X (or KDE). That reflects my opinion that this awful interactivity only occurs if ATA-disk-access is involved! Sorry for this second replay. I'm in hurry while I don't know why [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Harry I haven't claimed ULE to be unstable though. I just wanted to highlight some issues which will be a big problem if 5.2-releas will have ULE as default! If ULE is destined to be the default scheduler in 5-stable, then we need to have more people test it. pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Give setiathome a try! You'll be astonished. And I'm sure the difference I _feel_ isn't dependend on kde. If you don't like kde replace it with our favourite wm/desktop. But you won't be able to play two mid to high-quality mpegs at the same time on a 1GHz machine where 4BSD scheduler does very well! I haven't claimed ULE to be unstable though. I just wanted to highlight some issues which will be a big problem if 5.2-releas will have ULE as default! Sorry if you've already mentioned this, but what threading system are you using (i.e. libc_r, libthr, libkse)? Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA
On Monday 17 November 2003 06:42, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Give setiathome a try! You'll be astonished. And I'm sure the difference I _feel_ isn't dependend on kde. If you don't like kde replace it with our favourite wm/desktop. But you won't be able to play two mid to high-quality mpegs at the same time on a 1GHz machine where 4BSD scheduler does very well! I haven't claimed ULE to be unstable though. I just wanted to highlight some issues which will be a big problem if 5.2-releas will have ULE as default! Sorry if you've already mentioned this, but what threading system are you using (i.e. libc_r, libthr, libkse)? Hmm, libc_r I think. I haven't justified anything so I think this still is the default. I'd be glad if I understood these threading libraries (well, that's because I'm no C programmer) but should I try libkse in conjunction with ULE? If yes, how do I do that? I bet it's a line in make.conf Thanks, -Harry Kris pgp0.pgp Description: signature
