Re: world build fails since yesterday
FYI I was able to build world by reverting to a kernel cvsup'ed and built on 30/05/2003; I could not do so with a kernel cvsup'ed and built on 06/06/2003. Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:10:09PM +0200, Tobias Roth wrote: Overheating/powermanagement - maybe. I have an ASUS 4SX8 with a 1.3 GHz P4. I would exclude memory problems. I had built world a couple of times during the last 8 weeks of cvsuping. i just got two continuous crashes on stable as well. so at least for me it is definitely a hardware issue. what's left for me is try again with the latest bios (reinstall win, duh), and then send my laptop back to IBM. But then you don't have a point claiming a hardware problem :-) the buildworld tests I asked you guys to do are no longer necessary to clarify my issues, thanks for considering them. There were indeed times when I made a clean FreeBSD world build a criterium for a functioning hardware (cheap dimms, simms, exotic motherboards). -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de -- Regards Peter As always the organisation disavows knowledge of this email ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
Julian Elischer wrote: > One thing to do would be to do the buildworld in a 4.x jail/chroot > on a 5.x system.. FWIW: The only way I could get this to work reliably required that I copy in certain files from the host environment, which included the kernel, and anything that linked against libkvm. -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:19:42 +0200 > > From: Tobias Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Hi > > > > I get the same behaviour on my T30. Although the indications for a > > hardware problem are very strong, I am not yet convinced that this > > really is one. > > > > My suspicion is that there are problems with current (as well with > > 5.1 and probably 5.0) with power management that will result in > > overheating, which will then look like a hardware problem. > > > > I am currently running continuous buildworlds on stable, and so far > > they all succeeded. > > > > This is what is left to do: > > > > run buildworld on current or 5.1 until it fails a couple of times > > with the below errors, then reboot to 4.8 and run a few buildworlds. > > > > if they also fail -> hardware problem very likely > > if they do not fail -> run again a few buldworlds on current. > >if these fail again -> software problem very likely > > > > could you please also set up this test scenario and report the > > outcome? my results will be available some time tomorrow > One thing to do would be to do the buildworld in a 4.x jail/chroot on a 5.x system.. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:19:42 +0200 > From: Tobias Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi > > I get the same behaviour on my T30. Although the indications for a > hardware problem are very strong, I am not yet convinced that this > really is one. > > My suspicion is that there are problems with current (as well with > 5.1 and probably 5.0) with power management that will result in > overheating, which will then look like a hardware problem. > > I am currently running continuous buildworlds on stable, and so far > they all succeeded. > > This is what is left to do: > > run buildworld on current or 5.1 until it fails a couple of times > with the below errors, then reboot to 4.8 and run a few buildworlds. > > if they also fail -> hardware problem very likely > if they do not fail -> run again a few buldworlds on current. >if these fail again -> software problem very likely > > could you please also set up this test scenario and report the > outcome? my results will be available some time tomorrow I had exactly these symptoms with my T30 at one point between 5.0 and 5.1. I got random failures in buildworld as well as in a few ports. I never had any failures in normal operations and the errors were, when closely checked, often things like unlinking files and changing file attributes, not in the actual compile. I fixed the problem by building a re-starting the build with -DNOCLEAN. Eventually, the whole thing built. I had to make sure I was not doing something that might leave damaged files around, especially incomplete libraries, that would cause make to not rebuild them. It did take a while. Once I had built the new system and kernel, I installed them and immediately did a complete rebuild of the system and kernel just in case something was not quite right. My T30 has been happily rebuilding 2 or 3 times a week since then with no further problems. Good luck! -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
Hi, > My suspicion is that there are problems with current (as well with > 5.1 and probably 5.0) with power management that will result in > overheating, which will then look like a hardware problem. YES!!! Finally someone seeing something that could explain my problems!! My machine, after installing 5.1, constantly powered itself OFF while doing buildworld. It could do so during other times aswell, but doing a buildworld would be 100% certain (in the 10-15 cases I tried) to cause my laptop (a T21) to power down. However, this would only happen while in the docking station. Now that I've checked a bit further, it seems as if it's overheating - I've never had a problem carrying my laptop before, but after a power-down like that I was not able to touch it except around the edge and at the far end of where the CPU is located. Very disturbing. Now even more disturbing is this: In the docking station, -CURRENT *ONLY* works with ACPI enabled. If I disable ACPI, it won't even mount / - it hangs while trying. I'm suspecting that ACPI keeps my CPU fan from spinnning up or spinning fast enough - and I didn't even know ACPI could control that on my particular notebook. Buildworld with ACPI disabled is never a problem. /Eirik pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: world build fails since yesterday
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:10:09PM +0200, Tobias Roth wrote: > > Overheating/powermanagement - maybe. I have an ASUS 4SX8 with a 1.3 GHz P4. > > I would exclude memory problems. I had built world a couple of times > > during the last 8 weeks of cvsuping. > > i just got two continuous crashes on stable as well. so at least for me > it is definitely a hardware issue. what's left for me is try again with > the latest bios (reinstall win, duh), and then send my laptop back to > IBM. But then you don't have a point claiming a hardware problem :-) > > the buildworld tests I asked you guys to do are no longer necessary to > clarify my issues, thanks for considering them. There were indeed times when I made a clean FreeBSD world build a criterium for a functioning hardware (cheap dimms, simms, exotic motherboards). -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
> Overheating/powermanagement - maybe. I have an ASUS 4SX8 with a 1.3 GHz P4. > I would exclude memory problems. I had built world a couple of times > during the last 8 weeks of cvsuping. i just got two continuous crashes on stable as well. so at least for me it is definitely a hardware issue. what's left for me is try again with the latest bios (reinstall win, duh), and then send my laptop back to IBM. the buildworld tests I asked you guys to do are no longer necessary to clarify my issues, thanks for considering them. greets, t. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:37:31PM +0200, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:54:07PM +1000, peter wrote: > > Hi > > > > I receive signals 4, 10, and 11 during my buildworlds. Just put in > > another PSU: same problem. Checking memory next... > > Strangely I got through a second time. The first crash had produced a > csh.core. Maybe that was during install and csh stomped on it's feet > during install? Overheating/powermanagement - maybe. I have an ASUS 4SX8 with a 1.3 GHz P4. I would exclude memory problems. I had built world a couple of times during the last 8 weeks of cvsuping. -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:54:07PM +1000, peter wrote: > Hi > > I receive signals 4, 10, and 11 during my buildworlds. Just put in > another PSU: same problem. Checking memory next... Strangely I got through a second time. The first crash had produced a csh.core. Maybe that was during install and csh stomped on it's feet during install? -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
Hi I get the same behaviour on my T30. Although the indications for a hardware problem are very strong, I am not yet convinced that this really is one. My suspicion is that there are problems with current (as well with 5.1 and probably 5.0) with power management that will result in overheating, which will then look like a hardware problem. I am currently running continuous buildworlds on stable, and so far they all succeeded. This is what is left to do: run buildworld on current or 5.1 until it fails a couple of times with the below errors, then reboot to 4.8 and run a few buildworlds. if they also fail -> hardware problem very likely if they do not fail -> run again a few buldworlds on current. if these fail again -> software problem very likely could you please also set up this test scenario and report the outcome? my results will be available some time tomorrow thanks, t. On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 08:54:07PM +1000, peter wrote: > Hi > > I receive signals 4, 10, and 11 during my buildworlds. Just put in > another PSU: same problem. Checking memory next... > > Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > >I tried to sync my source tree and build the world. Yesterday > >world build failed. Today it seemd to get further but still failed > >with signal 4 (SIGILL !?) > > > >cd /usr/include/fs/fdescfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f > >$h; fi; done > >cd /usr/include/fs/fifofs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; > >fi; done > >cd /usr/include/fs/msdosfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f > >$h; fi; done > >cd /usr/include/fs/ntfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; > >fi; done > >cd /usr/include/fs/nullfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; > >fi; done > >*** Signal 4 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, peter wrote: p>Hi p> p>I receive signals 4, 10, and 11 during my buildworlds. Just put in p>another PSU: same problem. Checking memory next... I had such problems on a dual-proc Asus board. After reducing the DDR speed a little bit (233MHz, I think, instead of 256MHz), everyting works just fine. harti p> p>Christoph Kukulies wrote: p> p>>I tried to sync my source tree and build the world. Yesterday p>>world build failed. Today it seemd to get further but still failed p>>with signal 4 (SIGILL !?) p>> p>>cd /usr/include/fs/fdescfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done p>>cd /usr/include/fs/fifofs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done p>>cd /usr/include/fs/msdosfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done p>>cd /usr/include/fs/ntfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done p>>cd /usr/include/fs/nullfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done p>>*** Signal 4 p>> p>> p>>-- p>>Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de p>>___ p>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list p>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current p>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" p>> p>> p>> p>> p> p> p> p>___ p>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list p>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current p>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" p> -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: world build fails since yesterday
Hi I receive signals 4, 10, and 11 during my buildworlds. Just put in another PSU: same problem. Checking memory next... Christoph Kukulies wrote: I tried to sync my source tree and build the world. Yesterday world build failed. Today it seemd to get further but still failed with signal 4 (SIGILL !?) cd /usr/include/fs/fdescfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done cd /usr/include/fs/fifofs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done cd /usr/include/fs/msdosfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done cd /usr/include/fs/ntfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done cd /usr/include/fs/nullfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done *** Signal 4 -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
world build fails since yesterday
I tried to sync my source tree and build the world. Yesterday world build failed. Today it seemd to get further but still failed with signal 4 (SIGILL !?) cd /usr/include/fs/fdescfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done cd /usr/include/fs/fifofs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done cd /usr/include/fs/msdosfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done cd /usr/include/fs/ntfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done cd /usr/include/fs/nullfs; for h in *.h; do if [ -L $h ]; then rm -f $h; fi; done *** Signal 4 -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kukulies (at) rwth-aachen.de ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
