Re: MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX in bsd.sites.mk

2012-01-19 Thread perryh
Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 09:09:10PM +, Chris Rees wrote:
  I worry about the ethics of 'stealing' Fedora's bandwidth with
  other people's ports; we should only be using their mirrors if
  it's explicitly developed by Fedora.

 Correct.  dougb has pointed this out before and no one has taken
 the cycles to go act on it.  Consider this a task that needs
 volunteers.

 (A similiar caveat applies to the Debian and NetBSD sites;
 I believe it was Debian he flagged previously.)

Isn't this concern orthogonal to the original one about maintaining
a (set of) correct MASTER_SITE setting(s), for use by such ports as
can legitimately use Fedora/Debian/NetBSD/whatever sites?
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Re: MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX in bsd.sites.mk

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:41:21AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Isn't this concern orthogonal to the original one about maintaining
 a (set of) correct MASTER_SITE setting(s), for use by such ports as
 can legitimately use Fedora/Debian/NetBSD/whatever sites?

Yes, IMHO.

mcl
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Re: MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX in bsd.sites.mk

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Rees
On 17 Jan 2012 08:32, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

 Jason Helfman j...@freebsd.org wrote:
  I was looking at update bsd.sites.mk, and found that
  MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX is only used in one port.
 
  Any objection to moving this site-index into
x11-themes/bluecurve-themes,
  and removing from bsd.sites.mk?
 
  There is also a referrence to it in bsd.linux-rpm.mk, but not certain
how
  this should be handled. This seems to be a legacy site-index.

 This might better be asked on ports@ (Cc'd).

 I would think that Fedora is a sufficiently common distribution
 to warrant keeping this setting in a central location, in case
 of future need in a non-X port, unless its presence is causing
 problems.


I worry about the ethics of 'stealing' Fedora's bandwidth with other
people's ports; we should only be using their mirrors if it's explicitly
developed by Fedora.

Chris
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Re: MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX in bsd.sites.mk

2012-01-18 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On January 18, 2012 9:09:10 PM + Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:


I worry about the ethics of 'stealing' Fedora's bandwidth with other
people's ports; we should only be using their mirrors if it's explicitly
developed by Fedora.



I'm not sure I follow.  If Fedora is making an rpm available for download, 
how is it stealing their bandwidth to download the rpm from there? 
Wouldn't be equally stealing to download it from anywhere else?


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Re: MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX in bsd.sites.mk

2012-01-17 Thread perryh
Jason Helfman j...@freebsd.org wrote:
 I was looking at update bsd.sites.mk, and found that
 MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX is only used in one port.

 Any objection to moving this site-index into x11-themes/bluecurve-themes,
 and removing from bsd.sites.mk?

 There is also a referrence to it in bsd.linux-rpm.mk, but not certain how
 this should be handled. This seems to be a legacy site-index.

This might better be asked on ports@ (Cc'd).

I would think that Fedora is a sufficiently common distribution
to warrant keeping this setting in a central location, in case
of future need in a non-X port, unless its presence is causing
problems.
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Re: MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX in bsd.sites.mk

2012-01-17 Thread Jason Helfman
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:39:26PM +0400, Boris Samorodov thus spake:
Hi All,

17.01.2012 00:11, Jason Helfman пишет:
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 I was looking at update bsd.sites.mk, and found that
 MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX is only used in one port.

 Any objection to moving this site-index into x11-themes/bluecurve-themes,
 and removing from bsd.sites.mk?

Objection, sir! ;-)

No worries.

 There is also a referrence to it in bsd.linux-rpm.mk, but not certain how
 this should be handled.

This is handled someting like this: any fedora linux port that does not
define it's MASTER_SITES uses it. From bsd.linux-rpm.mk:
-
.if ${LINUX_DIST} == fedora
.  ifndef MASTER_SITES
MASTER_SITES=   ${MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX}
-

Yes, I saw this, and was grepping through the tree, looking for ports that
define LINUX_DIST as fedora, and didn't see any, but maybe my grep was
wrong.

- -jgh

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MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX in bsd.sites.mk

2012-01-16 Thread Jason Helfman
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Hi,

I was looking at update bsd.sites.mk, and found that
MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX is only used in one port.

Any objection to moving this site-index into x11-themes/bluecurve-themes,
and removing from bsd.sites.mk?

There is also a referrence to it in bsd.linux-rpm.mk, but not certain how
this should be handled. This seems to be a legacy site-index.

Thanks,
Jason

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