Re: GPS heads up
Warner Losh wrote: What I was trying to say was that SA is caused by the satellites reporting times that have a small offset added to or subtracted from them. Knowing where you are requires that you know what time it is to a very precise degree. Once you know what time it is, you can know where you are. That's why SA injects a pseudo random noise factor into the timing information that the satellites report. If you have an atomic clock and a GPS clock, you can measure the offset between the two fairly easily and graph the results. That is what I mean when I say you can compensate for the SA if you have a good atomic clock. This is what "Differential GPS" provides: a standard time source that can be used to remove the SA meanderings from the GPS fix. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
:SA *can* be averaged out, it has an average value of zero. But it :takes several days or even weeks to get into the centimeter range, :depending on the satelite coverage where you are. : :-- :Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 :[EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 Months or years to get into the centimeter range. Days to get in the 50 ft range, weeks to get into the 14 ft range. That's based on measurements. And SA does *NOT* have an average value of 0 even if you take a month's worth of data. Try to depend on the average and you will be screwed. What you do is use the worse case error (over a couple of days) to create an area, then take the middle of the area. That will give you better results then an average (the points within the volume will not be spread evenly so taking an average will result in an offset). -Matt Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
GPS heads up
On Thu, 4 May 2000 00:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Matthew Dillon wrote: :Out of curiosity, how many people in this discussion are hams? : :--mike N8NVW -Matt KC6LVW KC6GNJ Tim -- Snail: Tim Pozar / LNS / 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA POTS: +1 415 665 3790 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." - Andrew Jackson "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite." - Bertrand Russel To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
ILOVEYOU
kindly check the attached LOVELETTER coming from me. LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs
Re: GPS heads up
:Out of curiosity, how many people in this discussion are hams? : :--mike N8NVW -Matt KC6LVW louie WA3YMH (and elligble for QCWA this year, yikes!) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
Warner Losh wrote: What I was trying to say was that SA is caused by the satellites reporting times that have a small offset added to or subtracted from them. Knowing where you are requires that you know what time it is to a very precise degree. Once you know what time it is, you can know where you are. That's why SA injects a pseudo random noise factor into the timing information that the satellites report. If you have an atomic clock and a GPS clock, you can measure the offset between the two fairly easily and graph the results. That is what I mean when I say you can compensate for the SA if you have a good atomic clock. This is what "Differential GPS" provides: a standard time source that can be used to remove the SA meanderings from the GPS fix. Indirectly; the actual differential GPS corrections provide pseudo-range corrections. That is, the difference between what the actual distance to the satellite is at the reference station, and the distance you derive from the signal after it's been degraded. These days, thats primarily ionospheric effects. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
This is what "Differential GPS" provides: a standard time source that can be used to remove the SA meanderings from the GPS fix. If I'm understanding this correctly (with very little actual research into it) is that a DGPS station essentially transmits the difference between what it "hears" as it's location and what it's actual measured location is So far so good. The DGPS transmitter transmits the 'error' offsets for each satellite, along with timestamps so that each GPS receiver can apply the differences to the signals it receives to correct for SA. However, it means that you must been close enough to the DGPS receiver so that both of you are receiving the same offsets. Another way of doing DGPS correction can be done 'after the fact' with certain receivers. Basically, instead of saving the measured location, these save the location received from each satellite into a logfile, and then at some point in the future, this information along with the same information from a DGPS unit is fed into a program to post-process the received information to determine where a particular GPS unit was. This is how the State of Montana maps it's highways. They don't need real-time information, but they can't afford to keep a DGPS unit near the van driving down the road that is mapping the roads. However, the one problem with this approach is that if the 'receiver' is far enough away from the DGPS receiver, the satellites it picks up are different, and in some cases there is not enough overlap in satellites to get a good enough fix. to the clients, which apply this change to their local "heard" position. (Assuming that both sides are within the appropriate range of each other that allows them to hear the same satellites.) Do I have it about right? On the money. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
:SA *can* be averaged out, it has an average value of zero. But it :takes several days or even weeks to get into the centimeter range, :depending on the satelite coverage where you are. : :-- :Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 :[EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 Months or years to get into the centimeter range. That's very different from what the GPS experts at SRI tell me. They start to average things out in a matter of hours, and within a week can have it almost gone. However, they're also using multiple satellites, which allows them to more quickly find the center. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Fw: Question about RAID solutions
Hi, I sent this to questions yesterday and got no response. Anyone here care to take a stab at it for me? Thanks. Drew Sanford Systems Administrator Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Drew Sanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: Question about RAID solutions Hi, I'm looking for a RAID 5 solution for FreeBSD. I'd like suggestions on well supported hardware solutions, although I'm not against using vinum. What are some opinions on both of these solutions for and external drive box like the Dell Powervault? Thanks for the information. Drew Sanford Systems Administrator Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Fw: Question about RAID solutions
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 09:54:03AM -0500, Drew Sanford wrote: Hi, I sent this to questions yesterday and got no response. Anyone here care to take a stab at it for me? Thanks. www.avistor.com It's a SCSI-to-SCSI raid unit. I've buildt over 100 servers using their units and never had a problem. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a |FreeBSD 4.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Fw: Question about RAID solutions
I'm just starting to look at this. The only hardware option appears to be dpt and then only for almost-obsolete modules. Raid 5 for vinum requires a license at present. It may not be what you want. I am currently configuring a Raid 10 system with 4 - 4.5 GB scsi ultra drives. That's two striped (0) and the two striped pairs mirrored (1). That gives 100% increment in read speed (can read both simultaneously) and redundancy (either pair continues to operate). Drives have become so cheap Raid 5 just doesn't make sense to me. White paper suggests that vinum will be considerably faster than Raid 5 hardware, too. Seems easy to set up but as I say I am just starting to do it. First I have to figure out why my Adaptec 2940U doesn't work. Jim Flowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] #4 ISP on C|NET, #1 in Ohio On Thu, 4 May 2000, Drew Sanford wrote: Hi, I sent this to questions yesterday and got no response. Anyone here care to take a stab at it for me? Thanks. Drew Sanford Systems Administrator Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Drew Sanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: Question about RAID solutions Hi, I'm looking for a RAID 5 solution for FreeBSD. I'd like suggestions on well supported hardware solutions, although I'm not against using vinum. What are some opinions on both of these solutions for and external drive box like the Dell Powervault? Thanks for the information. Drew Sanford Systems Administrator Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
It seems that there are several people that are quite knowledgeable about GPS on this list. What I'd like to know, is there any GPS mapping software for FreeBSD? Searching through ports for GPS finds dgpsip, but no other GPS ports. I'm think of picking up a GPS unit to play with and I'd like to be able to see some mapping info, without having to boot NT (yuck). Thanks, -Charlie -- Charles Anderson[EMAIL PROTECTED] No quote, no nothin' To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Out of curiosity, how many people in this discussion are hams? : :--mike N8NVW -Matt KC6LVW 73 from KE6LZM Doug -- Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. -- W. Somerset Maugham To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Fw: Question about RAID solutions
Jim Flowers wrote: I'm just starting to look at this. The only hardware option appears to be dpt and then only for almost-obsolete modules. Raid 5 for vinum requires a license at present. It may not be what you want. It does??? I was under the impression that it *didn't* anymore for a while now. BTW, any SCSI2SCSI hardware solution will work. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - As for myself, I think the solution to politics is killing them all and let God sort them. - But that wouldn't work for atheists, would it? - That's not a problem, really. The second step is optional. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
:Umm... : :This was just sent to the list. I guess Window's users may want to watch :out... : :-- :Lloyd Rennie VBCnet GB Ltd[EMAIL PROTECTED] The 'virus' is the warning message itself, silly! -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
Thus spake Matthew Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The 'virus' is the warning message itself, silly! Nope, ILOVEYOU is a real virus. It's quite funny. Here in Germany even the radio reported about it, it seems to have crashed MANY companies and governmental institutions. Alex -- I need a new ~/.sig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
On 04-May-00 Alexander Langer wrote: Thus spake Matthew Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The 'virus' is the warning message itself, silly! Nope, ILOVEYOU is a real virus. It's quite funny. Here in Germany even the radio reported about it, it seems to have crashed MANY companies and governmental institutions. Alex Happiness is a UNIX based Mail Client :) Nicole Sent via XFmail (becouse I still want my GUI) -- I need a new ~/.sig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ // \\ ---(((---(((- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
: : ::Umm... :: ::This was just sent to the list. I guess Window's users may want to watch ::out... :: ::-- ::Lloyd Rennie VBCnet GB Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :The 'virus' is the warning message itself, silly! : : -Matt Whoop, I take it back. After looking at it I'd say the virus is real. But, really, Windows viruses are everyday occurances. If you don't like'm, complain to Mickysoft they're the assholes who write the shoddy software that allows viruses to work in the first place. -Matt Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
Pine is my friend ;-) -marc On Thu, 4 May 2000, Nicole Harrington. wrote: On 04-May-00 Alexander Langer wrote: Thus spake Matthew Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The 'virus' is the warning message itself, silly! Nope, ILOVEYOU is a real virus. It's quite funny. Here in Germany even the radio reported about it, it seems to have crashed MANY companies and governmental institutions. Alex Happiness is a UNIX based Mail Client :) Nicole Sent via XFmail (becouse I still want my GUI) -- I need a new ~/.sig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ // \\ ---(((---(((- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
This ILOVEYOU virus is some sort of VB script. I put the source code for it at http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~vonessen/viewer.cgi?file=iloveyou.dat Dont worry, the MIME type is text/plain -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Matthew Dillon wrote: ::This was just sent to the list. I guess Window's users may want to watch ::out... But, really, Windows viruses are everyday occurances. If you don't like'm, complain to Mickysoft they're the assholes who write the shoddy software that allows viruses to work in the first place. Yes, it was real virus and quite nasty one. Which remainds us, that quite soon we cannot live without freebsd naitive virus scanning engine. Such things don't spread so easily, when ISPs are able to scan e-mail and other content they serve. And thats definitely job for freebsd:) best regards, taavi --- Taavi Talvik| Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unineti Andmeside AS| phone: +372 6405150 Ravala pst. 10 | fax: +372 6405151 Tallinn 10143, Estonia | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 10:00:10AM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: : : ::Umm... :: ::This was just sent to the list. I guess Window's users may want to watch ::out... :: ::-- ::Lloyd Rennie VBCnet GB Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :The 'virus' is the warning message itself, silly! : : -Matt Whoop, I take it back. After looking at it I'd say the virus is real. But, really, Windows viruses are everyday occurances. If you don't like'm, complain to Mickysoft they're the assholes who write the shoddy software that allows viruses to work in the first place. Like talking to stone... microslug has evolved into the "Cult of Bill" (tm). Like any cult, they are convinced that their way the right and only possible way to nirvana, oneness, market dominance, emptiness, G*D, whatever. There is no way de-program these fools. I think it is very telling that most of the rand and file employees at microslime were hired right out of school and have no other experience in the computer industry. The only way to deal with these people is to shun them. Simply have nothing to do with them and their bloated, bug-ridden, poorly written products. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a |FreeBSD 4.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
Essenz Consulting wrote: This ILOVEYOU virus is some sort of VB script. I put the source code for it at http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~vonessen/viewer.cgi?file=iloveyou.dat Dont worry, the MIME type is text/plain it would be a lot readable if it were "de-mime'd" first. (e.g. "=3D" - char 0x3d etc.) anyone have a tool to do this? (I have seen perl to do it somewhere) Julian -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( OZ) World tour 2000 --- X_.---._/ presently in: Perth v To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: solicit hardware and/or testers for newbusified drivers
Jake Burkholder wrote: I'm working on converting some of the older drivers to newbus and need hardware or testers to verify that this stuff still works. If you have any of the hardware listed below and are willing to either loan it to me or be a guinea pig, please let me know. I have patches for some of them on my web page: http://io.yi.org These compile with LINT and a kernel with no compat shims; they should apply cleanly to a recent -current. I've booted a kernel with all these drivers compiled in to verify they were correctly not detected and didn't panic my machine. If you use other drivers that still require compatibility shims you'll have to remove the entries for the drivers you are patching from sys/i386/isa/isa_compat.h or I believe the kernel will not link. This applies to LINT. Hardware or Testers Needed: ctx:Cortex-I frame grabber. spigot: Creative Labs Video Spigot video-acquisition board. meteor: Matrox Meteor video capture board. asc:GI1904-based hand scanners, e.g. the Trust Amiscan Grey. gsc:Genius GS-4500 hand scanner. el: 3Com 3C501 ethernet card. le: Digital Equipment EtherWorks 2 and EtherWorks 3 (DEPCA, DE100, DE101, DE200, DE201, DE202, DE203, DE204, DE205, DE422). hello, the le driver (or the board) does not work very well , but I can test a newbusified version of it (as long as it runs under 4.0-R) TfH [SNIP] Thank you Jake -- Thierry HerbelotASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN /"\ Dir. technique LUCCAS AGAINST HTML MAIL NEWS \ / tout le cable sur http://www.luccas.org PAS DE HTML DANS X un CV : http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelotLES COURRIELS / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Fw: Question about RAID solutions
I'm just starting to look at this. The only hardware option appears to be dpt and then only for almost-obsolete modules. Raid 5 for vinum requires a license at present. It may not be what you want. I don't know what you're looking at, then. Have a look at http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID for a few more ideas. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Fw: Question about RAID solutions
Hi, I sent this to questions yesterday and got no response. Anyone here care to take a stab at it for me? Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm looking for a RAID 5 solution for FreeBSD. I'd like suggestions on well supported hardware solutions, although I'm not against using vinum. What are some opinions on both of these solutions for and external drive box like the Dell Powervault? Thanks for the information. Try a supported Mylex controller and a managed enclosure (eg. the Dell box, or something similar). -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
Umm... This was just sent to the list. I guess Window's users may want to watch out... HAHAHHAHAH. I just opened it with my VBScripting disabled, and read the code. It's pretty damn funny. Maybe if I get a chance I'll write a disinfecter. Doesn't look like it destroys your hard drive, just loads itself into the registry, "infects" mIRC's ini file, and mails itself out to everyone else. I can see how this would be annoying, and you'd have to remove the damn thing by hand, but doesn't seem like it would kill anything. It's pretty weak these days. People in the past would have to learn assembly language and how to append to an EXE or COM file, load into memory, bind interrupts to reinfect, etc. Now it's just some kid with a scripting language, or some gay trojan written in Visual Basic 6, that calls deltree or something. Sad. Truely sad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
Nope, ILOVEYOU is a real virus. It's quite funny. Here in Germany even the radio reported about it, it seems to have crashed MANY companies and governmental institutions. :/ I question the terms people use these days. Back in the day, if people tried to call an evil script a "virus", it was considered the wrong term. These are just little tricks they do to stupid people. Just my opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
Yes, it was real virus and quite nasty one. Which remainds us, that quite soon we cannot live without freebsd naitive virus scanning engine. Such things don't spread so easily, when ISPs are able to scan e-mail and other content they serve. lol. The only way you could really have a virus in freebsd is if it was launched or infected as root. Otherwise the virus would be VERY limited. If you are talking about scanning incoming email for viruses/scripts that were destined for Windows computers, ok, I'd say that's not a bad idea. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
If I am not the dumbest bastard in the history of dumb bastards. As I was tinkering with the script, finally I'm done reading it, I go to delete it, and I execute it instead. lol. I just ripped it right back out of my registry and mIRC, and rebooted. No big thing, just stupid :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0 with ida driver (fwd)
Jonathan, Buildworld went just fine. However, when building my kernel I got the following error: cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_disksubr.c /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_disksubr.c:67: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_disksubr.c: In function `diskerr': /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_disksubr.c:362: argument `bp' doesn't match prototype /usr/src/sys/sys/disklabel.h:450: prototype declaration *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Chris Okay, I think I know what the bug is. This should have been fixed in -current by now, let me check to see if it's been merged into -stable... Nope. I just pulled it over from -current, so it should be in -stable as of now, and hopefully show up in your next cvsup. Let me know if it doesn't fix the problem. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Upgrade from 3.4 to 4.0 with ida driver (fwd)
Great, Thanks Chris On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jonathan Lemon wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 02:52:45PM -0400, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote: Jonathan, Buildworld went just fine. However, when building my kernel I got the following error: Other breakage, not related to the ida driver. This was just fixed as well. -- Jonathan --- Christopher T. Griffiths Engineering Department Quansoo Group Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (302) 777-4141 Fax: (302) 777-4142 Mobile: (302) 521-3436 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re:Abuse of Telia's Internet (Autosvar/Automatic Reply)
Detta är ett automatiskt svar/This is an automatic reply Tack för ditt e-brev! Vi har nu tagit emot din förfrågan och kommer att återkomma till dig när vi har utrett ärendet. Anmäler du ett netikettbrott vill vi att du bifogar brevhuvud (header) eller loggfiler som vi kan använda för att spåra händelsen. Observera att det är mycket viktigt att du anger hur mycket din dators klocka går fel om du skickar en loggfil, eftersom loggprogram använder sig av din dators tidsangivelser. Vi kan spåra händelser som genererats från Telias Internettjänster. Alla Internetoperatörer har egna Abuse-avdelningar, varför du bör vända dig till Abuse på respektive domän för anmälningar som inte kommer från Telia. Med vänlig hälsning Telia Nära AB Telia Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Thank you for your e-mail. We will look into your question and contact you when we have an answer. If you are reporting Internet abuse, please don't forget to include a mail header or a log file, which we need to trace the incident. Please also inform us how much your computer's clock differs from the correct time, and inform us what time zone you're in. Yours sincerely Telia Nära AB Telia Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] freebsd-hackers 05/04/00 21:00 Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by startsidan.telia.se ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Thursday, May 4, 2000 at 18:58:30 --- Tid: 20:48:16 IP-adress: 205.172.19.178 Beskrivning: I would like to report a Virus spammer (possiblely from your address space) he of course seemed to have changed his reply name but header records show your domain. specifically: k9d4.isdn-adv.telia.com [195.198.192.68] Thank you Abuse will not be tolerated. Sp*rningsinfo: here are the Header records from this person: Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F71C37BE14 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 4 May 2000 05:44:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from d1o71.telia.com (d1o71.telia.com [194.237.172.245]) by mailb.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10802 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:44:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from k9d4 (k9d4.isdn-adv.telia.com [195.198.192.68]) by d1o71.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29199 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:44:31 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Lennart Blomstrom" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'E-mail'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ILOVEYOU Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:27:59 +0200 Message-ID: 007701bfb5c6$6073d820$0a0f010a@k9d4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) he had attached the ILOVEYOU Visual basic script virus Submit: Send --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: Yes, it was real virus and quite nasty one. Which remainds us, that quite soon we cannot live without freebsd naitive virus scanning engine. Such things don't spread so easily, when ISPs are able to scan e-mail and other content they serve. lol. The only way you could really have a virus in freebsd is if it was launched or infected as root. Otherwise the virus would be VERY limited. If you are talking about scanning incoming email for viruses/scripts that were destined for Windows computers, ok, I'd say that's not a bad idea. Yes, I was talking about virus scanning on behalf of Windows users. Anyway, most files, emails, web pages are served or pass through unix (and quite often *BSD) systems. There seems to be program called AMAVIS (http://satan.oih.rwth-aachen.de/AMaViS/amavis.html), which can do some scanning. It probably needs some investigation and freebsd porting. best regards, taavi --- Taavi Talvik| Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unineti Andmeside AS| phone: +372 6405150 Ravala pst. 10 | fax: +372 6405151 Tallinn 10143, Estonia | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
"or some gay trojan written" EXCUSE ME? Nicole On 04-May-00 Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: Umm... This was just sent to the list. I guess Window's users may want to watch out... HAHAHHAHAH. I just opened it with my VBScripting disabled, and read the code. It's pretty damn funny. Maybe if I get a chance I'll write a disinfecter. Doesn't look like it destroys your hard drive, just loads itself into the registry, "infects" mIRC's ini file, and mails itself out to everyone else. I can see how this would be annoying, and you'd have to remove the damn thing by hand, but doesn't seem like it would kill anything. It's pretty weak these days. People in the past would have to learn assembly language and how to append to an EXE or COM file, load into memory, bind interrupts to reinfect, etc. Now it's just some kid with a scripting language, or some gay trojan written in Visual Basic 6, that calls deltree or something. Sad. Truely sad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ // \\ ---(((---(((- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- --- -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Nicole Harrington. wrote: "or some gay trojan written" EXCUSE ME? Hehe...'gay' means 'silly' to some of us (especially Canadians). Nothing to do with being happy or homosexual. -marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: IL0VEY0U worm (fwd)
In the interests of putting the ILOVEYOU thread to death, here's a concise description of the worm from bugtraq. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 11:09:32 -0700 From: Elias Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IL0VEY0U worm A quick update with some more information and quick fixes. I am reproducing my original message in full bellow as some people are filtering messages with a subject line of ILOVEYOU. There is a good description of how to disinfect a system manually at http://www.thepope.org/index.pl?node_id=140 skyinet.net seems to be off the net. It seems they are being blackholed by someone. The worm has a comment that may or may not indicate the author: rem barok -loveletter(vbe) i hate go to school rem by: spyder / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / @GRAMMERSoft Group / Manila,Philippines I did not make it clear, but the worm does infect files in mapped network drives, so it can spread across the network via file shares by infecting the files I reported. When someone opens those files the worm will execute and infect their system. It seems the WIN-BUGFIX.exe file will email any cached passwords to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To stop the spread download updates for your antivirus product for your vendor. They all have some type of fix by now, but most antivirus vendor websites seems to be unavailable under the high load. Some I could reach: NAI: http://download.mcafee.com/extrafiles/love-4.zip Datafellows: http://www.datafellows.com/download-purchase/updates.html TrendMicro: http://www.antivirus.com/download/pattern.asp Sophos: http://www.sophos.com/downloads/ide/index.html#loveleta You should also not open visual basic attachments in email (.VBS), not accept DCC's on IRC from strangers (or friends for that matter) unless you known what you are receiving. If you control your mail server you should try to configure it to stop messages with attachments ending in .vbs. There seems to be some patches to sendmail from when Melissa came out that does this. You may also want to filter all email going out to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and stop the download of WIN-BUGFIX.exe in your HTTP proxy. * Elias Levy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000504 17:02]: A new VB worm is on the loose. This would normally not be bugtraq material as it exploits no new flaws but it has spread enough that it warrants some coverage. This is a quick and dirty analysis of what it does. The worm spreads via email as an attachments and via IRC as a DCC download. The first thing the worm does when executed is save itself to three different locations. Under the system directory as MSKernel32.vbs and LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs and under the windows directory as Win32DLL.vbs. It then creates a number of registry entries to execute these programs when the machine restarts. These entries are: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\MSKernel32 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices\Win32DLL It will also modify Internet Explorer's start page to point to a web page that downloads a binary called WIN-BUGSFIX.exe. It randomly selects between four different URLs: http://www.skyinet.net/~young1s/HJKhjnwerhjkxcvytwertnMTFwetrdsfmhPnjw6587345gvsdf7679njbvYT/WIN-BUGSFIX.exe http://www.skyinet.net/~angelcat/skladjflfdjghKJnwetryDGFikjUIyqwerWe546786324hjk4jnHHGbvbmKLJKjhkqj4w/WIN-BUGSFIX.exe http://www.skyinet.net/~koichi/jf6TRjkcbGRpGqaq198vbFV5hfFEkbopBdQZnmPOhfgER67b3Vbvg/WIN-BUGSFIX.exe http://www.skyinet.net/~chu/sdgfhjksdfjklNBmnfgkKLHjkqwtuHJBhAFSDGjkhYUgqwerasdjhPhjasfdglkNBhbqwebmznxcbvnmadshfgqw237461234iuy7thjg/WIN-BUGSFIX.exe I've not been able to obtain copy of the binary to figure out what it does. This does mean the worm has a dynamic components that may change its behavior any time the binary is changed and a new one downloaded. The worm then changes a number of registry keys to run the downloaded binary and to clean up after itself. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\WIN-BUGSFIX HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Start Page about:blank The worm then creates an HTML file that helps it spread, LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.HTM. This is the file DCC'ed to others on IRC. The worm then spreads to all addresses in the Windows Address Book by sending the file LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs as an attachment. The email starts: kindly check the attached LOVELETTER coming from me. Then the virus searches for attached drives looking for files with certain extensions. It overwrites files ending with vbs, and vbe. It overwrites files ending with js, jse, css, wsh, sct, and hta, and then renames them to end with vbs. It overwrites files ending with jpg and jpeg and appends .vbs to their name. It finds files with the name mp3 and mp3, creates vbs files with the same name and sets the hidden attribute in the original mp* files. The it looks for the mIRC
Re: ILOVEYOU
"or some gay trojan written" EXCUSE ME? Infinite apologies if I offended you. Were I live, the word gay is used quite often to describe things that are foolish or weak. I didn't mean to offend the homosexual community, simply to express my distaste with the trojans. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
On 04-May-00 Marc Nicholas wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2000, Nicole Harrington. wrote: "or some gay trojan written" EXCUSE ME? Hehe...'gay' means 'silly' to some of us (especially Canadians). Nothing to do with being happy or homosexual. -marc Arg.. Sorry about this. It was not mean for the whole list. Sorry for seeming so sensitive. It just seemed out of place. Nicole To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ // \\ ---(((---(((- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 09:00:32AM -0700, a little birdie told me that Doug Barton remarked Matthew Dillon wrote: :Out of curiosity, how many people in this discussion are hams? : :--mike N8NVW -Matt KC6LVW 73 from KE6LZM And Matt (part deux) N3TZJ (try some phonetics on THAT) -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix Systems Administrator |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Specializing in FreeBSD |http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
On 04-May-00 Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: "or some gay trojan written" EXCUSE ME? Infinite apologies if I offended you. Were I live, the word gay is used quite often to describe things that are foolish or weak. I didn't mean to offend the homosexual community, simply to express my distaste with the trojans. :) Thanks! I am sure I am not the only one who perhaps raised an eyebrow. I however did not mean to send it to the list... But since I did I want to appologise to the list. It must truly be a nice place were you live! Can we make that a virus :) Nicole To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ // \\ ---(((---(((- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- --- -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Upgrade from 3.3 to 4.0
Does the Upgrade option work on the 4.0-RELEASE disks if I am going from 3.3-RELEASE? Or do I want to CVSup? Thanks. Nick Rogness - Speak softly and carry a Gigabit switch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
VLAN support
Hi, I have been browsing on the freeBSD.org site searching for info on VLAN 802.1Q(p) support on FreeBSD; all I have been able to find is this : http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.4/errata.html I would be really greatful if somebody could provide me with info/pointers regarding the topic. What I am really interested in is tagging (VLAN ID and user_priority) and scheduling mechanism that use the tags. I would like to code my own, eventually. Thanks, Tarik Tarik Alj INRS-Telecommunications Place Bonaventure 900 De La Gauchetierre Ouest Niveau C, Case Postale 644 Montreal, Qc, H5A 1C6 Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: VLAN support
On May 04, Tarik Alj wrote: Hi, I have been browsing on the freeBSD.org site searching for info on VLAN 802.1Q(p) support on FreeBSD; all I have been able to find is this : http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.4/errata.html I would be really greatful if somebody could provide me with info/pointers regarding the topic. What I am really interested in is tagging (VLAN ID and user_priority) and scheduling mechanism that use the tags. I would like to code my own, eventually. There was a long thread about vlan support in freebsd-net starting around Feb 02. --Mat To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
One NFS cookie question
I have one question regarding the usage of NFS cookies. I read the following passage in the mailing list archive: The BSD code simpy re-reads all of the directory blocks until it hits the right offset again whenever it gets NFSERR_BAD_COOKIE. However, suppose you have a directory of 3 blocks. You read the first block. Your offset is now at the end of the first block. You delete all the files in the first block. You want to read the 2nd block. You get BAD_COOKIE. So then you start again from the beginning, until you are at the wanted offset. However, the first block has disappeared now, so your offset lands you at what was originally the 3rd block. You've missed the 2nd block entirely. --- Is this problem solved or not in FreeBSD 4.0-Release? -Zhihui To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Fw: Question about RAID solutions
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 11:30:24AM -0400, Jim Flowers wrote: I'm just starting to look at this. The only hardware option appears to be dpt and then only for almost-obsolete modules. Raid 5 for vinum FreeBSD 4.0 supports others then the DPT. I personal use the Mylex Acceleraid 250, which works great. requires a license at present. It may not be what you want. I am currently configuring a Raid 10 system with 4 - 4.5 GB scsi ultra drives. That's two striped (0) and the two striped pairs mirrored (1). That gives 100% increment in read speed (can read both simultaneously) and redundancy (either pair continues to operate). Drives have become so cheap Raid 5 just doesn't make sense to me. White paper suggests that vinum will be considerably faster than Raid 5 hardware, too. Seems easy to set up but as I say I am just starting to do it. First I have to figure out why my Adaptec 2940U doesn't work. Jim Flowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] #4 ISP on C|NET, #1 in Ohio On Thu, 4 May 2000, Drew Sanford wrote: Hi, I sent this to questions yesterday and got no response. Anyone here care to take a stab at it for me? Thanks. Drew Sanford Systems Administrator Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Drew Sanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: Question about RAID solutions Hi, I'm looking for a RAID 5 solution for FreeBSD. I'd like suggestions on well supported hardware solutions, although I'm not against using vinum. What are some opinions on both of these solutions for and external drive box like the Dell Powervault? Thanks for the information. Drew Sanford Systems Administrator Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Regards, Ulf. - Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: solicit hardware and/or testers for newbusified drivers
el: 3Com 3C501 ethernet card. I can remember the Linux ethernet howto seriously discouraging using this card. It seems to be quite faulty. Marco van de Voort ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.stack.nl/~marcov/xtdlib.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nate Williams writes: : That's very different from what the GPS experts at SRI tell me. They : start to average things out in a matter of hours, and within a week can : have it almost gone. However, they're also using multiple satellites, : which allows them to more quickly find the center. The experts here tell me that professional surveyers get sub meter accuracy with in about an hour with commercially available hardware. This was with SA. He estimates that now it would take about 6-10 minutes to do the same thing since SA is turned off. It was very abruptly turned off if you look at the graph of the cutover. Looks like timing information from GPS is now +- 20ns or so. This is 10x better than with SA where the timing information was +- 200-250ns. These numbers are the average of all the birds in the sky at any given time. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
: That's very different from what the GPS experts at SRI tell me. They : start to average things out in a matter of hours, and within a week can : have it almost gone. However, they're also using multiple satellites, : which allows them to more quickly find the center. The experts here tell me that professional surveyers get sub meter accuracy with in about an hour with commercially available hardware. This was with SA. That's more in line with what my 'expert' friends have told me as well. ~24 hours to get 1 cm accuracy with tweaked gear with SA enabled. He estimates that now it would take about 6-10 minutes to do the same thing since SA is turned off. Wow, that's even faster than I thought it would take, since you've still got ionosphere noise, which is harder to 'average out'. In any case, this discussion has been a refreshing and enjoyable change from some of the others on the mailing lists. :) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: 3Com's all-in-one XJack modem/NIC
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:34:22PM -0700, Matt Peterson wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has had luck with 3Com's new PC Card http://www.3com.com/mobile/pccards/3cxfem656c.html, it's feature the famous XJack connector along with 'autosencing technology' to determine it the cable is ethernet or modem, hmm. Also it apprantly flashes or some for status. I didn't see it menitoned on PAO (speaking of which, when can we expect 4.0-RELEASE PAO floppies?). Thx. I don't think there will be any 4.0-PAO floppies. We are busy merging PAO into the main FreeBSD repository. As of recently, there have been a number of MFPAO3's and newcard commits by Iwasaki-san and Warner Losh. If the 3CXFEM656C is a Cardbus card (as I assume based on the last alpha character in its name), then you'll have to wait until we have Cardbus code in the tree (which MAY be in by 4.1, but more likely 4.2). However, if it's anything like the other 3Com cards, writing the actual driver will be easy (what's needed at this point is the base code for pccard + cardbus). So, as soon as we get done with the base code, I'm sure that if someone loans a 3CXFEM656C card, a driver will be written. -- Will Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCS/E/S @d- s+:++:- a---+++ C++ UB P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++ DI+++ D+ G+ e- h! r--+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Matthew Dillon wrote: :Lloyd Rennie VBCnet GB Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 'virus' is the warning message itself, silly! -Matt Nope -- it was a genuine virus copy, self-replicating through the list. Stupid Outlook executes everything .vbs even if the attachment has application/octet-stream content-type. -- Alex -- Excellent.. now give users the option to cut your hair you hippie! -- Anonymous Coward To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Abuse of Telia's Internet (Autosvar/Automatic Reply)
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 08:56:37PM +0200, abuse wrote: [snip] Whoever did this had a temporary lack of clue. The one sending the ILOVEYOU message is innocent. The virus (it's a worm, ok?) does that all by itself. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ILOVEYOU
Thus spake Marc Nicholas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Pine is my friend ;-) Mutt =) Nicole Sent via XFmail (becouse I still want my GUI) Did you try Mutt? It has a nice GUI :-) Alex -- I need a new ~/.sig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
100* Re: Re: Re:........ MAKE MONEY FOR ...
FUCK OFF One guys spams a few mailinglists, and a bunch of shit-for-brains can't stop responding to it. The last one was really 'insightful': sending a mail to seven mailing lists saying that he agrees and that the list is about linux, not about some spammer The amount of spam on the cypherpunk list never bothered me much, and I think most of the cypherpunkers feel this way (hey, if you don't know how to filter your mail, what are you doing on a mailinglist anyway). That people are too stupid however to even look at where they are sending their stupid complaints to, really gets on my tits. I have already six email addresses of people who are NOT on the cypherpunk list, and if I get one more, I will register him on every fucking spoofable subscription shit I can find. KEEP IT ON YOUR OWN LIST, MORONS! __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: MAKE MONEY FOR DOING NOTHING!!!!!!!!! PROMISE
I say Mr.Roland is right. This mailing list is about Linux and not about some dude that spammed us one On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jim Roland wrote: I don't mean to be demeaning, but can we all please not comment and run an off-topic thread on something that should be deleted and ignored? Please stick to the list topic and leave spam alone, ignoring it like it should be. Simply report to the abuse mail addresses of the originating or carrying ISPs, and delete the message. -=Jim Roland "Never settle with words what you can settle with a flamethrower." --Anonymous On Wed, 3 May 2000, David Benfell wrote: Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:20:35 -0700 From: David Benfell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave West [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dhar [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FOR DOING NOTHING! PROMISE On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 06:27:32PM +0100, Dave West wrote: Actually it's better to just tell AllAdvantage.com and they will cancell his account and bar him for life. So he can use another false name with another ISP. -- David Benfell ICQ 59438240 [e-mail first for access] --- "I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." -- Winston Churchill [from fortune] -------------------------------- to unsubscribe email "unsubscribe linux-admin" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See the linux-admin FAQ: http://www.kalug.lug.net/linux-admin-FAQ/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: GPS heads up
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nate Williams writes: : That's very different from what the GPS experts at SRI tell me. They : start to average things out in a matter of hours, and within a week can : have it almost gone. However, they're also using multiple satellites, : which allows them to more quickly find the center. The experts here tell me that professional surveyers get sub meter accuracy with in about an hour with commercially available hardware. This was with SA. The difference is the "commercially available hardware." The more seperate signals you can discriminate with a given receiver, the faster you can zero in on accuracy. Doug -- Excess on occasion is exhilarating. It prevents moderation from acquiring the deadening effect of a habit. -- W. Somerset Maugham To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
