Re: dual console with matrox g400
On Tuesday, 10 October 2000 at 0:51:50 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greg Lehey writes: >> I had a PC with two graphics cards long before that. It was >> relatively common to have a machine with both CGA and MDA, and there >> were some debuggers which would handle both (debug a full-screen >> application with the debug output on the other monitor). > > True. But I've not seen a PC that could have multiple keyboards/mice > until USB came along. Well, I did see some kludges, but they were > fairly rare. Now, many different solutions exist that you can mix and > match... Well, multiple mice were never an issue, but the keyboard was. I had done some thinking about a serial keyboard, but mainly to get away from the stupid layouts of PC keyboards. Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: dual console with matrox g400
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greg Lehey writes: : I had a PC with two graphics cards long before that. It was : relatively common to have a machine with both CGA and MDA, and there : were some debuggers which would handle both (debug a full-screen : application with the debug output on the other monitor). True. But I've not seen a PC that could have multiple keyboards/mice until USB came along. Well, I did see some kludges, but they were fairly rare. Now, many different solutions exist that you can mix and match... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: dual console with matrox g400
On Tuesday, 10 October 2000 at 0:35:07 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greg Lehey writes: >> Well, you obviously need two keyboards and two mice. I can't think of >> a case where that would be useful, but with x2x (in the Ports >> collection) you can allow different people access to the same server. > > In 1990 I shared a Solbourne workstation with a friend. It had two > graphics/I/O boards, which ment that you could have two independent > video consoles on it at the same time. Worked a whole lot better than > one would have expected given the relative primitive tehcnology of the > time. Glad to see that PCs are catching up :-) I had a PC with two graphics cards long before that. It was relatively common to have a machine with both CGA and MDA, and there were some debuggers which would handle both (debug a full-screen application with the debug output on the other monitor). Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: reseting hardware after apm resume
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brad Guillory writes: : I have a "new" laptop and a few problems related to apm resume. apm on most modern machines is useless. You need to have acpi support for things to work well. Good thing ACPI has been committed. : When I suspend to disk then resume my sound hardware and ls120 : drive no longer work. I was looking for a knob that would let That's because FreeBSD isn't rnning the right acpi routines on resume to turn the hardware back on. : Does anyone have any idea where to find such a knob in : the kernel config or suggestions on how you would like : the knob to work? You might want to look acpi in -current only. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: dual console with matrox g400
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greg Lehey writes: : Well, you obviously need two keyboards and two mice. I can't think of : a case where that would be useful, but with x2x (in the Ports : collection) you can allow different people access to the same server. In 1990 I shared a Solbourne workstation with a friend. It had two graphics/I/O boards, which ment that you could have two independent video consoles on it at the same time. Worked a whole lot better than one would have expected given the relative primitive tehcnology of the time. Glad to see that PCs are catching up :-) Wanrer To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
reseting hardware after apm resume
Hello all, I have a "new" laptop and a few problems related to apm resume. When I suspend to disk then resume my sound hardware and ls120 drive no longer work. I was looking for a knob that would let me configure which drivers were called to reset their hardware. PC Cards are reset in this way currently. Does anyone have any idea where to find such a knob in the kernel config or suggestions on how you would like the knob to work? Please CC me; I am not on the list... BMG -- __O| Information wants to be free! | __OBike _-\<,_ | FreeBSD:The Power to Serve (easily) | _-\<,_to (_)/ (_) | OpenBSD:The Power to Serve (securely) | (_)/ (_) Work To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: dual console with matrox g400
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: : :Well, you obviously need two keyboards and two mice. I can't think of :a case where that would be useful, but with x2x (in the Ports :collection) you can allow different people access to the same server. I'd think that a monitor, a keyboard, and a mouse are a whole lot cheaper than a monitor, a keyboard, a mouse, and a whole rest of the computer. Modern PCs are more than powerful enough to deal with two ionteractive video users. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: dual console with matrox g400
On Sunday, 8 October 2000 at 10:43:34 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Eoin Lawless wrote: >> >> I've just got a dual head system with a matrox g400 working. However, >> what I would really like to have is a dual console system - so that >> two people could use it simultaneously. Has anyone tried that, or >> know if it is possible? > > Maybe it would be possible to kludge something together using PS/2 mouse > and keyboard for one and USB mouse and keyboard for the other. I don't > think there is anything available "out of the box" for this, though. Well, you obviously need two keyboards and two mice. I can't think of a case where that would be useful, but with x2x (in the Ports collection) you can allow different people access to the same server. Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
RE: MFS
> Can one of you help me with a quick overview of what has happened > with the Memory File System since 4.4BSD to the FreeBSD that exists > today? Hi, I've never used it myself, but I read an article about it on the O'Reilly network; hold on a sec while I look it up http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/371 I've been considering using this for various purposes, since it'll probably speed up some things a great deal. Please let me know how it works for you... Kind regards, Nathaniel G H Free, BeOS-friendly email accounts: http://BeMail.org/ Free Daily Reading: http://bedope.com/icontarot/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
This may be a free country, but these mailing lists are available as a privilege rather than a right and if you guys want to continue using them, you'll remain on-topic and follow the mailing list charter for -hackers, something which is publically documented in the FreeBSD handbook and should be read now by any who are unfamiliar with it. Thank you. - Jordan > I stand by my opinion. I live in Free Country with a free voice. I stand by > what I said. There are millions of deserving people in this world. If this > person is so good WHY cant they afford a Laptop Successful people could. > > Dan Evensen > > > >From: Bill Fumerola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Dan Evensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: We need your old laptop for a committer... > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:06:08 -0400 > > > >On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 05:41:00PM +, Dan Evensen wrote: > > > I would say that this is untraditional to say the least. It does not > >belong > > > on the list. There are millions of promising people in such a need. > > > > > > Dan Evensen CCNA Wan Switching > > > >You're a moron. > > > >Thanks. > > > >-- > >Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
Erm, Bill? I think those sorts of replies are better vocalized out loud and simply not sent. Thanks. > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 05:41:00PM +, Dan Evensen wrote: > > I would say that this is untraditional to say the least. It does not belong > > on the list. There are millions of promising people in such a need. > > > > Dan Evensen CCNA Wan Switching > > You're a moron. > > Thanks. > > -- > Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
> Dan, > > Although I disagreed with your opinion, you're right, you do have a voice > and every right to your opinion. Actually, not in this forum. The FreeBSD mailing lists are hosted on owned hardware, and constitute a collection of private databases. Use of these resources is entirely at the discretion of their owners. Dan has no rights, not even the ones he thinks he has. In this context, the only "right" he has is the one that no legislature has ever tried to take away - the "right" to make himself look like a complete fool. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
Dan, Although I disagreed with your opinion, you're right, you do have a voice and every right to your opinion. I was actually on your side when you received that rude reply from Bill Fumerola. Unfortunately, I don't agree with your response, especially the last sentence. As was stated in the original message, this person does not feel comfortable making the request and someone else made it so there's no need to make a personal attack on that person. Yes, the response you received WAS a personal attack but you don't always have to reply in kind. Oscar At 08:23 PM 10/9/00 +, Dan Evensen, you wrote: >I stand by my opinion. I live in Free Country with a free voice. I stand >by what I said. There are millions of deserving people in this world. If >this person is so good WHY cant they afford a Laptop Successful people could. > >Dan Evensen > > >>From: Bill Fumerola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Dan Evensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: We need your old laptop for a committer... >>Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:06:08 -0400 >> >>On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 05:41:00PM +, Dan Evensen wrote: >> > I would say that this is untraditional to say the least. It does not >> belong >> > on the list. There are millions of promising people in such a need. >> > >> > Dan Evensen CCNA Wan Switching >> >>You're a moron. >> >>Thanks. >> >>-- >>Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Dan Evensen wrote: > I stand by my opinion. I live in Free Country with a free voice. I stand > by what I said. There are millions of deserving people in this world. If > this person is so good WHY cant they afford a Laptop Successful people > could. This is really out of line. Not every country in the world is benefiting from the current up-swing in the US stock market and technology sector, and I find your assertion that anyone successful could afford a laptop fairly offensive. No doubt there are millions of deserving people, but frankly, few come with the recommendation of a long-time FreeBSD developer. Coming from a free country and having a free voice doesn't alleviate the need to think before speaking, and doesn't mean that everyone who can hear you is as fortunate or as wealthy. No one is saying you can't legally say what you say, but many people are suggesting that it was completely inappropriate for the freebsd-hackers mailing list, and quite out of sync with reality. In the future, I'd ask that you keep such opinions to yourself--it's clear you're unwilling to donate a system, and your silence to indicate that would have been quite sufficient as a response. Thanks, Robert N M Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.watson.org/~robert/ PGP key fingerprint: AF B5 5F FF A6 4A 79 37 ED 5F 55 E9 58 04 6A B1 TIS Labs at Network Associates, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
On Monday, October 09, 2000, Dan Evensen wrote: > I stand by my opinion. I live in Free Country with a free voice. I stand by > what I said. There are millions of deserving people in this world. If this > person is so good WHY cant they afford a Laptop Successful people could. The difference, however, is that Poul-Henning Kamp has made a structured, formal, properly punctuated request, for somebody who has already _given_ time and effort to the FreeBSD Project. You're just making randomly capitalize complaints because you want a free laptop. -- |Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |Those who can't write, write help files. ` To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dan Evensen" writes: >I stand by my opinion. I live in Free Country with a free voice. I stand by >what I said. There are millions of deserving people in this world. If this >person is so good WHY cant they afford a Laptop Successful people could. Your emails have convinced me that there still are people where the example on page 3 of RFC1437 is a faithful and detailed model. I don't know what I find most appaling about you, your lack of insight into the economic situation outside your proctedted neighborhood, your firm belief that the 1st ammendment allows you to be stupid and insensitive or your well founded stupidity. Anyway, please everybody, just ignore this jerk. Just because he think he has free speach doesn't mean we have to pay any attention to him. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
Did you not notice that this person lives in a former Eastern Block country? Unless you've been in hiding, you would know that the cost of electronics of any sort (when they are actually available) are far beyond the reach of the "average citizen". I doubt very seriously, due to the general lack of up to date technology in a lot of these countries, that anyone who would be interested in the advancement of FreeBSD would be in a possition to afford a laptop. I think the fact that Bill asked for this person is honorable. If I had a laptop to spare, which I don't, as I don't even have one for myself, it would not phase me to donate it for such a cause. As for not belonging on this list, your comment about what does and doesn't belong has caused far more disruption than his original post. Perhaps you should have sent your opion to him only? Dan Evensen wrote: > > I stand by my opinion. I live in Free Country with a free voice. I stand by > what I said. There are millions of deserving people in this world. If this > person is so good WHY cant they afford a Laptop Successful people could. > > Dan Evensen > -- Drew Sanford To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
Dan, You also apparently live in a country where random capitalization is the norm. Perhaps you would be less jealous and more successful if you could write in English. Also, your whining is more off-topic than the original request was. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: "Dan Evensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 2:23 PM Subject: Re: We need your old laptop for a committer... > I stand by my opinion. I live in Free Country with a free voice. I stand by > what I said. There are millions of deserving people in this world. If this > person is so good WHY cant they afford a Laptop Successful people could. > > Dan Evensen > > > >From: Bill Fumerola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Dan Evensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: We need your old laptop for a committer... > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:06:08 -0400 > > > >On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 05:41:00PM +, Dan Evensen wrote: > > > I would say that this is untraditional to say the least. It does not > >belong > > > on the list. There are millions of promising people in such a need. > > > > > > Dan Evensen CCNA Wan Switching > > > >You're a moron. > > > >Thanks. > > > >-- > >Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
I stand by my opinion. I live in Free Country with a free voice. I stand by what I said. There are millions of deserving people in this world. If this person is so good WHY cant they afford a Laptop Successful people could. Dan Evensen >From: Bill Fumerola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Dan Evensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: We need your old laptop for a committer... >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:06:08 -0400 > >On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 05:41:00PM +, Dan Evensen wrote: > > I would say that this is untraditional to say the least. It does not >belong > > on the list. There are millions of promising people in such a need. > > > > Dan Evensen CCNA Wan Switching > >You're a moron. > >Thanks. > >-- >Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 05:41:00PM +, Dan Evensen wrote: > I would say that this is untraditional to say the least. It does not belong > on the list. There are millions of promising people in such a need. > > Dan Evensen CCNA Wan Switching You're a moron. Thanks. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: WEP keys for an driver
Brooks Davis writes: | On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:42:32AM -0700, Dave Cornejo wrote: | > Some comments on your code: | > - WEP keysare variable length from 5-13 bytes, you should just check for | > >=5 & <=13 (it seems odd, but I have seen networks that use the odd | > sizes). | | Since all the windows drivers I've looked at only allow 0, 5, and 13 | byte keys, I'd suggest only allowing those values. That's what | wicontrol does. That's what I recall from Windows and I allow 0, 5 or 13 characters as 0 -> erase key 0xDD-> set 40 bit 0xDD-> set 128 bit I also verified it did the right thing by booting back into Windows and then running the WEP utility to see if it made the right change. Also did it as hex since that is what the WEP utility did. The code would probably work with ASCII strings but how do you encode 0-255 as a character in an ASCII string? BTW my test string was 0x001122334455 (for 40 bit). Originally I wasn't doing a 40 bit or 128 and things didn't work. Once I started doing 40 bit or 128 bit keys then things worked fine. Since the programming doc didn't say anything about that I burned a few days on that :-( | > I didn't provide patches to ancontrol as you did, but I find ancontrol | > is getting way too nasty with its switches. Your patches look fine | > to me except that I'd really like to see a better way to specify | > volatile vs. persistent keys. | | You need to add ancontrol support or the patch is basicaly useless. I'm | looking forward to some sort of working crypto support for the aironet | cards. Well if you just download mine for now again at www.ambrisko.com/doug/an.patch.wep That will get you going. Some people other then myself are using it with success. It looks like it will get some more features since it looks like he has gleaned some more knowledge then I was told. Give it a try and let me know if you run into a problem. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: WEP keys for an driver
Dave Cornejo writes: | It doesn't matter to me which version gets used - I just need the | capability to set the WEP keys. | | Some comments on your code: | - WEP keysare variable length from 5-13 bytes, you should just check for | >=5 & <=13 (it seems odd, but I have seen networks that use the odd | sizes). Really ... I need to check the WEP configurator again on Windows. I thought when I tried it it only let me do 40 or 128 not in between. Also it also it only excepted a hex string (the base code from wicontrol accepted an ASCII string as well). | - In an_setkeys() you allow 28 characters, the error message says 18, | but really only 13 are significant. Right 28 = max of "0x" + 2 * byte (5 or 13). So 2 + 2 * 13 = 28. That 18 sounds like a bug (stale cut'n'paste). | - The AN_RXMODE_LAN_MONITOR_CURBSS was a good catch - I never tested | that one. Running tcpdump kept bitting me. Hey why did ping stop :-( | - The authentication handling in ancontrol is in error: there is no | AN_AUTH_TYPE_EXCLUDE_UNENCRYPTED bit. I should have added constants | for the correct values for the authentication type. | | 0x000x - no encryption | 0x010x - full encryption | 0x030x - mixed cell (allow unencrypted) In my manual on page 7-51 in the table for General Configuration Parameters: +0x003E AuthenticationType 0x01Open 0x02Shared-Key 0x04Exclude Unencrypted So this is were I got it. I have DOC 710-004247, Rev B1. I'm not sure what you are reading or maybe talking about. It almost sounds that you are talking binary instead of hex. BTW I didn't ever get "Exclude Unencrypted" to do anything usefull if I recall. So maybe my documentation is wrong. If you have a newer one could you send it to me? I'm on my second version of the manual. | despite what's in the driver, bit 2 (0x0004) is not used. The bits as | defined by Aironet engineering: | | #define AN_AUTHTYPE_PRIVACY_IN_USE 0x0100 | #define AN_AUTHTYPE_ALLOW_UNENCRYPTED 0x0200 AN_AUTHTYPE_ALLOW_UNENCRYPTED seems to be a new one. Actually the are both not listed in my manual. I derived it from the posting by an Aironet engineer on the Linux driver mailing list. Where did you find out about 0x100 & 0x200? | I would like to see my structure changes checked in - there are an | error or two and some interesting new elements in there. In some more | recent radio firmware, they provide normalized RSSI, and the IP | address of the base station. There are also a few other things hinted | at in there that some may find interesting. I should however add in | some more constants. I don't have any problem with that. I was just worked on getting WEP going. | I didn't provide patches to ancontrol as you did, but I find ancontrol | is getting way too nasty with its switches. Your patches look fine | to me except that I'd really like to see a better way to specify | volatile vs. persistent keys. Agreed. It did not fit in with the "primative" model that the WaveLan cards use. I tried to make it as clean as possible with the 3 flags: - set any key - set mode - turn WEP on/off (looks like this needs to be expanded to allow unencrypted traffic) Unfortanetly I has to do some stuff in ancontrol to virtualize the different register for the last 2 since they are munge into on but should but are treated separetly in the Windows UI. Linux just sets them for and doesn't give you this flexibility so you may not be able to interoperate in a valid windows network. However, without the ancontrol changes it becomes difficult to set these things from a user perspective. Thanks for the review. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Dan Evensen wrote: > I would say that this is untraditional to say the least. It does not > belong on the list. There are millions of promising people in such a > need. Need maybe but in this case the return on investment has been pretty high (if this is who I think it is.) I think if you don't have a laptop to offer or cash to put towards the pool then you should just keep quiet. I'd love a laptop myself but I'll put up $50 towards the purchase of a laptop for said committer. Will you? PHK, where do I send my check? -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL| ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: WEP keys for an driver
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:42:32AM -0700, Dave Cornejo wrote: > Some comments on your code: > - WEP keysare variable length from 5-13 bytes, you should just check for > >=5 & <=13 (it seems odd, but I have seen networks that use the odd > sizes). Since all the windows drivers I've looked at only allow 0, 5, and 13 byte keys, I'd suggest only allowing those values. That's what wicontrol does. > I didn't provide patches to ancontrol as you did, but I find ancontrol > is getting way too nasty with its switches. Your patches look fine > to me except that I'd really like to see a better way to specify > volatile vs. persistent keys. You need to add ancontrol support or the patch is basicaly useless. I'm looking forward to some sort of working crypto support for the aironet cards. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
xmovie 1.5.2 for FreeBSD
I just recently ported xmovie 1.5.2 to FreeBSD 4.0. The patch file can be found at my home page http://www.pelissero.org. It's rather big (80K) because it can be considered a fix patch for the Linux version as well. Among the other bugs, the code relied on a (sort of) misbehavior of the Linux pthreads implementation (GNU?) that allows a thread to unlock a mutex locked by another thread. I'm working on the CSS code that still doesn't work (I guess it didn't even under Linux). To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: WEP keys for an driver
It doesn't matter to me which version gets used - I just need the capability to set the WEP keys. Some comments on your code: - WEP keysare variable length from 5-13 bytes, you should just check for >=5 & <=13 (it seems odd, but I have seen networks that use the odd sizes). - In an_setkeys() you allow 28 characters, the error message says 18, but really only 13 are significant. - The AN_RXMODE_LAN_MONITOR_CURBSS was a good catch - I never tested that one. - The authentication handling in ancontrol is in error: there is no AN_AUTH_TYPE_EXCLUDE_UNENCRYPTED bit. I should have added constants for the correct values for the authentication type. 0x000x - no encryption 0x010x - full encryption 0x030x - mixed cell (allow unencrypted) despite what's in the driver, bit 2 (0x0004) is not used. The bits as defined by Aironet engineering: #define AN_AUTHTYPE_PRIVACY_IN_USE 0x0100 #define AN_AUTHTYPE_ALLOW_UNENCRYPTED 0x0200 I would like to see my structure changes checked in - there are an error or two and some interesting new elements in there. In some more recent radio firmware, they provide normalized RSSI, and the IP address of the base station. There are also a few other things hinted at in there that some may find interesting. I should however add in some more constants. I didn't provide patches to ancontrol as you did, but I find ancontrol is getting way too nasty with its switches. Your patches look fine to me except that I'd really like to see a better way to specify volatile vs. persistent keys. dave c Doug Ambrisko wrote: > Looking at the code I don't see this as a complete solution. Maybe that > is what you mean by: > The ioctl interface used to configure the card does not include > a way to set WEP keys > > If you look at http://www.ambrisko.com/doug/an.patch.wep. It includes > the changes to both sides to enable WEP in the various modes and the > various keys. > > I've been to busy to submit this, but I finally did today. Some people > have been using this code with success. -- Dave Cornejo @ Dogwood Media, Fremont, California "There aren't any monkeys chasing us..." - Xochi To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
I would say that this is untraditional to say the least. It does not belong on the list. There are millions of promising people in such a need. Dan Evensen CCNA Wan Switching >From: Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: We need your old laptop for a committer... >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:12:50 +0200 > >Hi guys, > >We have a committer, a productive and promising kernel talent, who >is being hampered in his FreeBSD work by lack of hardware. > >It would help him a lot if we could find him a laptop with enough >disk to hold a CVS tree and a few extra bits and pieces so he can >transport data to and from work that way and use it as cvs-server >for his computer at home. > >Our friend lives in what used to be the Eastblock, so just buying >a laptop is not an option for him. > >I was hoping that we have somebody out there who has a preowned >laptop he would be willing to donate and if possible cross the >"sender pays customs & dues" box on the address label, to save our >friend the $100-$300 customs import charge. > >Ideally we are looking for a laptop with 3+ GB disk and an ethernet >card. CPU, RAM, Display or even battery performance is not critical. >(But of course I'm sure that a really good modern laptop would be >put to good use, so you don't have to actually downgrade it to make >him happy :-) > >I know this request is a bit untraditional for the FreeBSD project, >but I hate to see one of our more promising talents have to worry >about if he can avoid the Attic directories with cvsup rather than >work on the good stuff he has been doing for FreeBSD so far. > >Understandably, he does not feel comfortable about asking for such >a favour in public, so I ask on his behalf: > >If you have a suitable laptop you can part with for a good cause, >and you have access to a corporate DHL/FedEx/UPS account, please >help this guy out. > >Drop me an email, and I'll put you in touch with each other. > >-- >Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 >FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe >Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: WEP keys for an driver
Dave Cornejo writes: | my apologies if i am not following the correct procedures here... | | I have submitted a patch in PR kern/21843 which adds WEP key support | to the an driver. This is my first attempt at messing with driver | code so any constructive criticism is appreciated. | | I have tested the patch with the hardware available to me and it seems | to work well (I've used Aironet firmware 3.98 & an as yet unreleased | version). Looking at the code I don't see this as a complete solution. Maybe that is what you mean by: The ioctl interface used to configure the card does not include a way to set WEP keys If you look at http://www.ambrisko.com/doug/an.patch.wep. It includes the changes to both sides to enable WEP in the various modes and the various keys. I've been to busy to submit this, but I finally did today. Some people have been using this code with success. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
WEP keys for an driver
my apologies if i am not following the correct procedures here... I have submitted a patch in PR kern/21843 which adds WEP key support to the an driver. This is my first attempt at messing with driver code so any constructive criticism is appreciated. I have tested the patch with the hardware available to me and it seems to work well (I've used Aironet firmware 3.98 & an as yet unreleased version). If there's any interest and I can get permission to, I'm working on a firmware upgrade program next... dave -- Dave Cornejo @ Dogwood Media, Fremont, California "There aren't any monkeys chasing us..." - Xochi To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: dual console with matrox g400
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 10:43:34AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Maybe it would be possible to kludge something together using PS/2 mouse > and keyboard for one and USB mouse and keyboard for the other. I don't > think there is anything available "out of the box" for this, though. > Yes, my plan was to use a USB keyboard mouse in combination with a serial mouse and PS/2 keyboard. XFree86 4.0 seems to allow more flexibility in choosing input devices. On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 08:49:53PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > One might also be able hack the various universal port replicators to > allow one to have multiple heads. > > Warner What are universal port replicators? Eoin To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
We need your old laptop for a committer...
Hi guys, We have a committer, a productive and promising kernel talent, who is being hampered in his FreeBSD work by lack of hardware. It would help him a lot if we could find him a laptop with enough disk to hold a CVS tree and a few extra bits and pieces so he can transport data to and from work that way and use it as cvs-server for his computer at home. Our friend lives in what used to be the Eastblock, so just buying a laptop is not an option for him. I was hoping that we have somebody out there who has a preowned laptop he would be willing to donate and if possible cross the "sender pays customs & dues" box on the address label, to save our friend the $100-$300 customs import charge. Ideally we are looking for a laptop with 3+ GB disk and an ethernet card. CPU, RAM, Display or even battery performance is not critical. (But of course I'm sure that a really good modern laptop would be put to good use, so you don't have to actually downgrade it to make him happy :-) I know this request is a bit untraditional for the FreeBSD project, but I hate to see one of our more promising talents have to worry about if he can avoid the Attic directories with cvsup rather than work on the good stuff he has been doing for FreeBSD so far. Understandably, he does not feel comfortable about asking for such a favour in public, so I ask on his behalf: If you have a suitable laptop you can part with for a good cause, and you have access to a corporate DHL/FedEx/UPS account, please help this guy out. Drop me an email, and I'll put you in touch with each other. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Trouble with dynamic loading of C++ libs in PHP v4.02 on FreeBSD 4.1
Has any more come of this? I've just started playing with LADSPA (The Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API http://www.ladspa.org) on my FreeBSD 4-STABLE box, and run into a similar problem. This is an entirely C API, and the demonstration applications are all straight C, but some of the plugins themselves are written in C++. Without doing anything extra, attempting to dlopen() one of these C++ shared libraries produced an Undefined symbol __get_eh_context. In the spirit John's fix (I think): On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 05:49:11PM -0700, John Polstra wrote: > As a work-around, try adding this to your main program. (I am > assuming it is a C++ program too.) > > extern void terminate(void); > void (*kludge_city)(void) = terminate; I didn't actually do that (took a while to find the message in the archives), but did: (a) Changed the source file names to .cc, so that they would be compiled as C++ code, and (b) added a gratuitous class definition and use to a common file, so that __get_eh_context and friends would be included in the executable. Neither of these made the problem go away, which surprised me, because nm on the resulting executable showed the symbol to be defined. I guess the dynamic linker doesn't look in the executable, only the shared libraries? This suggestion: > Another possibility would be to link explicitly with libgcc when > creating your dynamic library: > > cc -shared -o libphptest.so ... -lgcc Works, even when the applications are compiled as ordinary C programs again. I haven't tried running a system with more than one C++ plugin yet, so I worry a little that there will be multiple definition name clashes. If the dynamic linker is smart enough to not worry about that, then this does seem to be the "right" way to go, in some sense, because the resulting shared library seems to have "pure" C linkage. Perhaps we could put something about this in the Handbook, or (better) the gcc info pages? Is there a central repository of information about FreeBSD's binutil and compiler state? I noticed a few things in the gcc info pages about ABI-affecting switches (thunks for vtables and the like). There are obviously system defaults for these switches, but I don't know where to find out what they are. -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
RE: Writing Drivers
Yip , a nice description here ... http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ the last 3 links on the page On 09-Oct-00 Christopher F. Moran wrote: > This is probably a dumb question, but here goes. > > I want to write a driver for some custom hardware we use here. I've done > this Windows NT and (earlier) MS-DOS, so the concept doesn't scare me. > > What I need is a starting point. Besides trawling through the code, are > there any standard references or texts I could check out? > > Thanks, > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Unix Software Developer/Engineer E-Mail: Johan Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 09-Oct-00 Time: 11:44:50 All good things come to those who ... runs FreeBSD -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Writing Drivers
This is probably a dumb question, but here goes. I want to write a driver for some custom hardware we use here. I've done this Windows NT and (earlier) MS-DOS, so the concept doesn't scare me. What I need is a starting point. Besides trawling through the code, are there any standard references or texts I could check out? Thanks, To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
tcsh went nuts with FreeBSD-3.5.1 (installed from source code)
Howdy, all! I am sending this to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I am sending a CC to Christos Zoulas, because what I have noticed has an undesired effect on tcsh, though apparently this is mostly related to libc sources from FreeBSD 3.5.1 release. I have seen something very odd happening with tcsh 6.09.00 and FreeBSD 3.5.1. Tcsh binary stopped working quite suddenly when I installed reeBSD-3.5.1 from source code. It seems to get stuck within sigpause() and never comes back among the living again. When this happens ps shows me this 18318 p0 S 0:00.04 -/tcsh 18319 p0 Z+ 0:00.00 (stty) So, apparently SIGCHLD does not get through to the shell. For all I can tell it seems tcsh should be waiting for one in pjwait() in source file sh.proc.c. Re-compiling tcsh static or dynamic makes no difference, if libc is compiled from 3.5.1 sources. I didn't think the two FreeBSD versions should have so different libraries, but it seems to be the case. If I use the old 3.4 libc, tcsh is just fine also with FreeBSD-3.5.1 kernel quite independent of whether I compile libc locally or not. When I try with the locally compiled 3.5.1 libc, it makes no difference whether the kernel is 3.5.1 or 3.4. With either kernel tcsh gets stuck. Do you have any idea what might be going on? Has FreeBSD changed the implementation of sigpause() et al. somehow such that the new versions somehow conflict with the old version? Or is this some sort of glitch in tcsh signals management? Quite frankly I assume the problem is only present in the libc sources of the 3.5.1 distribution. The problem does not seem to be present in the binary version of libc which is distributed as part of the 3.5.1 package. Has anyone else noticed similar odd problems? Does anyone out there have good suggestions about what to try next? Fixed 3.5.1 libc source code maybe? Cheers, // jau .--- ..- -.- -.- .-.- .-.-.-..- -.- -.- --- -. . -. /Jukka A. Ukkonen, SysOpen Plc, Finland /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng & cs) (Phone) +358-424-2020-331 / Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fax) +358-424-2020-700 /Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mobile) +358-400-606-671 v Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Home&Fax) +358-9-6215-280 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
etherchannel / bonding
Hello all, does anyone know if the etherchannel (aka bonding) is a feature that's expected to be seen in future releases of freebsd? Andreas To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
