FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp


We're doing quite fine in the "max uptime" survey:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/isp.max.html

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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Jonathan Perkin

phk wrote:

> We're doing quite fine in the "max uptime" survey:
>
> http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/isp.max.html

Glad you like it - pity we got slashdotted so early :)

Although the uptime survey's are new on the site, they have quite a
large database to gather from, and will get better as more people use
the whats queries.  Be nice when freefall has enough data to plot a
graph for :)

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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Peter

Have you checked out www.uptime.net ?


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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

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> We're doing quite fine in the "max uptime" survey:
> 
> http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/isp.max.html
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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

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eter writes:

>Have you checked out www.uptime.net ?

Yes, and ?  It looks like some random company...

>On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
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>> 
>> We're doing quite fine in the "max uptime" survey:
>> 
>> http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/isp.max.html
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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Jamie Heckford

Yes, and is this your idea of spamming / advertising ?!?!

Where is any relevant information on this subject?


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> Have you checked out www.uptime.net ?
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> > We're doing quite fine in the "max uptime" survey:
> > 
> > http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/isp.max.html
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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Anders Nordby

On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 04:09:34PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>>Have you checked out www.uptime.net ?
> Yes, and ?  It looks like some random company...

I suppose he means www.uptimes.net.

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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anders Nordby writes:
>On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 04:09:34PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>>>Have you checked out www.uptime.net ?
>> Yes, and ?  It looks like some random company...
>
>I suppose he means www.uptimes.net.

Ahh, that thing.

That is an opt-in scheme, and therefore the result is as scientific
and reliable as asking Congress how well the president is doing...

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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Jeremiah Gowdy

> Yes, and is this your idea of spamming / advertising ?!?!
>
> Where is any relevant information on this subject?

oh please, if you're going to call that spam, it was the most beniegn spam
I've ever seen.  It wasn't even worth a reply.  Try setting
flame_enabled="false" in your rc.conf





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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Peter

Guys, sorry did not mean to spam, but there used to be a site called
uptime.net (I'm pretty sure of it) It basically did what netcraft is
doing, except it only kept the uptimes.  They had some wonderful uptimes
of several years. As far as I remember, NETBSD was 1st place and FreeBSD
was in second.

sorry about the spam, was not aware that the site has gone away.

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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Jamie Heckford wrote:

> Yes, and is this your idea of spamming / advertising ?!?!
> 
> Where is any relevant information on this subject?
> 
> 
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2000, you wrote:
> > Have you checked out www.uptime.net ?
> > 
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> > On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > We're doing quite fine in the "max uptime" survey:
> > > 
> > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/isp.max.html
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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Eric Melville

No worries, you just forgot the 's' at the end ;)

The site is still there, it's just "uptimes.net" not "uptime.net".

> Guys, sorry did not mean to spam, but there used to be a site called
> uptime.net (I'm pretty sure of it) It basically did what netcraft is
> doing, except it only kept the uptimes.  They had some wonderful uptimes
> of several years. As far as I remember, NETBSD was 1st place and FreeBSD
> was in second.
> 
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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Frederik Meerwaldt

Hi all!

> Guys, sorry did not mean to spam, but there used to be a site called
> uptime.net (I'm pretty sure of it) It basically did what netcraft is
> doing, except it only kept the uptimes.  They had some wonderful uptimes
> of several years. As far as I remember, NETBSD was 1st place and FreeBSD
> was in second.

I didn't follow the whole thread *shame*, but the side you possibly mean
is called uptimes.net (don't forget the "s"). And my Box is reporting to
this side, too (HID: 7068 (munwme)).

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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread David Preece

Possibly off topic, possibly not. Am I the only one who doesn't really care 
about uptimes? It would be far more productive to get a top 100 (or 
whatever) of availability... More interesting would be to test availability 
based on some dynamic content, a given request with an expected outcome a 
la F5?

I may be forced to hack this together, where's my damn cable modem!!!

Dave :)

BTW, we didn't fare very well at all in the top *average* uptimes. Sun, 
OTOH, did. Bugger.



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irq status

2000-11-01 Thread Jamie Heckford

Is their a tool out their or does anyone have a quick bit of code / hack that
will "probe" all of the irqs on my box and tell me which ones are used /
available??

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Re: irq status

2000-11-01 Thread Doug White

On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Jamie Heckford wrote:

> Is their a tool out their or does anyone have a quick bit of code / hack that
> will "probe" all of the irqs on my box and tell me which ones are used /
> available??

dmesg | grep irq

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Re: irq status

2000-11-01 Thread Jamie Heckford

ok, is their anyway to probe for base addresses?

This is an unusual card, a Dialogic D41/E Computer Telephony card. It *will*
work under BSD, just need a base address value now.

thanx for help so far btw.


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> vmstat -i
> coupled with
> dmesg | grep irq
> 
> should find them all.
> 
> tonym
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Re: irq status

2000-11-01 Thread Jamie Heckford


Their is no corresponding device in the kernel !!!

These drivers work as a thrid party module, and have seen working before, but
need the base address value.



On Wed, 01 Nov 2000, you wrote:
> What device does it correspond to in kernel config file?
> If the device is in the kernel I would have thought the card would
> be seen at boot up with a probed IO address.
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Re: irq status

2000-11-01 Thread Mike Smith

> Is their a tool out their or does anyone have a quick bit of code / hack that
> will "probe" all of the irqs on my box and tell me which ones are used /
> available??

No.  You can glean some of this information from various 
metaconfiguration interface, but the question you're asking suggests that 
you're trying to do something wrong anyway.

Why don't you tell us a bit more about what you want this information for?

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Re: Add a system call

2000-11-01 Thread Greg Lehey

On Wednesday,  1 November 2000 at 20:47:18 +0100, flag wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Raymond Law wrote:
>
>> Can someone list the steps on how to add a system call in FreeBSD 4 please?
> [mega-snip]
>
> The response to this question seems to be great material for a FAQ.
> Anybody out there would like to create it?

It's also a little off-topic for questions.  I'm sure you'll get
better answers from -hackers, so I've replied there.

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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Greg Black

David Preece writes:

> Possibly off topic, possibly not. Am I the only one who doesn't really care 
> about uptimes?

I certainly am not impressed by uptimes over about 100 days.
They show that the site does not care about keeping current.

If it made sense to have several hundred days of uptime, what is
the point of all the development work done by the FreeBSD (and
other OS) developers?  These people work hard to improve the
system and it makes sense to at least run the latest production
release.  In the case of FreeBSD, this means a reboot at least
every three to four months when the CDs are released.

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Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey

2000-11-01 Thread Laurence Berland

Just curious, since I can't find the info on the site...what method is
being used to determine uptimes on these systems?  How can I turn
reporting on in FreeBSD?

L

Jonathan Perkin wrote:
> 
> phk wrote:
> 
> > We're doing quite fine in the "max uptime" survey:
> >
> > http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/isp.max.html
> 
> Glad you like it - pity we got slashdotted so early :)
> 
> Although the uptime survey's are new on the site, they have quite a
> large database to gather from, and will get better as more people use
> the whats queries.  Be nice when freefall has enough data to plot a
> graph for :)
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Kernel calls, are they documented somewhere?

2000-11-01 Thread G. Adam Stanislav

Are the system calls made via interrupt 0x80 documented somewhere?

Whatever section 2 of man says does not work when making direct kernel
calls. It only describes how the C library calls work.

For example, open() returns -1 if the file is not open. But int 80h
made in assembly language with EAX = 5 (SYS_open) returns a positive
value whether or not the file was opened. My tests show it returns 2
if the open fails, or a valid file descriptor otherwise. But can I
rely on it being the case with other versions of FreeBSD (I have 3.1)?

Similarly, SYS_sbrk always returns a very small value, while the C sbrk()
works as described in man 2 sbrk. I have given up on SYS_sbrk altogether,
and am reserving a huge buffer in .bss instead. But if I overrun that
buffer, my software has to quit for "lack of memory".

Please don't tell me to read the kernel source code: I am not about
to spend weeks or months wading through it just so I can write free
software. (Quite frankly I tried, but I often have no clue as to which
file contains the code I am looking for.)

What I'd like to know is if there is a document or a book that describes
the return values of the various system calls. All I could find is
the systemcalls.master (and .h and such) file which only gives me
the arguments to pass to each call but not how to determine whether
the call succeeded. Nor is eaminging the libc source code too helpful
(it contains very few if any comments). This is very frustrating...

Please, rest assured that I will publish any answers I find in Assembly
Programming Journal, and on my web site, to make it easier on other assembly
language programmers to code for FreeBSD. Most of them (us) have enough
information to write assembly programs for Windows only. I'd like to change
that and bring as many as possible to our camp.

Cheers,
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Re: Kernel calls, are they documented somewhere?

2000-11-01 Thread Michael Bacarella

On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 10:25:58PM -0600, G. Adam Stanislav wrote:

gcc does not generate code that can make FreeBSD system calls directly.
Most system calls as we know them by the manual have corresponding
wrappers in libc. See /usr/src/lib/libc if you have the source installed.

> Whatever section 2 of man says does not work when making direct kernel
> calls. It only describes how the C library calls work.

> For example, open() returns -1 if the file is not open. But int 80h
> made in assembly language with EAX = 5 (SYS_open) returns a positive
> value whether or not the file was opened. My tests show it returns 2
> if the open fails, or a valid file descriptor otherwise. But can I
> rely on it being the case with other versions of FreeBSD (I have 3.1)?

If you're invoking syscalls directly, you're going to find yourself
duplicating a lot of the conveniance that it provides.
 
> Please don't tell me to read the kernel source code: I am not about
> to spend weeks or months wading through it just so I can write free
> software. (Quite frankly I tried, but I often have no clue as to which
> file contains the code I am looking for.)

This isn't such a daunting task with grep. Source code cross referencers
can also help, but I don't use them nearly as often as I thought I would.

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Re: Kernel calls, are they documented somewhere?

2000-11-01 Thread G. Adam Stanislav

On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 12:12:02AM -0500, Michael Bacarella wrote:
>gcc does not generate code that can make FreeBSD system calls directly.
>Most system calls as we know them by the manual have corresponding
>wrappers in libc. See /usr/src/lib/libc if you have the source installed.

I do have the source code, and I have studied it, but it is uncommented.
And, it seems, not all of it is included. For example, there is a
/usr/src/lib/libc/sys/open.2 but no corresponding open.c. I have been
unable to find the source code for open() in libc. There is an open.c
in /usr/src/lib/libstand/ but it makes no system calls. Actually, it
looks like a system call (it assigns its own file descriptors to files
it opens), but it does not behave like our kernel (since it returns -1
on errors, while our kernel has been returning 2 in my tests when trying
to open a non-existing file as O_RDONLY:

sub eax, eax; EAX = 0 = O_RDONLY
pusheax
pusheax
pushesi ; points at file name
pusheax ; fake return address
int 80h
add esp, byte 16

(That's NASM syntax.) If the file exists, I get a file descriptor in EAX,
otherwise EAX = 2. It would be nice if I could get some kind of formal
confirmation that this is how it is supposed to be, and that all FreeBSD
versions behave like that.

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