Re: none

[Wes Peters]

Kirk Strauser wrote:
> 
> At 2002-12-10T00:44:03Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > hi,sorry
> >
> > does Linux run with an AMD Athlon 1,2Ghz ?
> > how?
> 
> Dunno.  Ask on a Linux mailing list.

FreeBSD runs just great on it.  Maybe you should try that?  ;^)

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Re: CVS_LOCAL_BRANCH_NUM?

[Lamont Granquist]

I finally figured this out.  To use CVS_LOCAL_BRANCH_NUM with a cvs
pserver you need to have the environment variable set server-side.  That
means something like invoking a wrapper from inetd which sets the
environment variable and the calls cvs.

Completely undocumented behavior and not terribly transparent.

I'm working on some instructions at:

http://www.scriptkiddie.org/freebsd/setting_up_local_repo.html

On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Lamont Granquist wrote:
> I've been struggling all weekend to setup a local CVS repo mirror, and I
> guess I've done that successfully, but I can't figure out what is going on
> with CVS_LOCAL_BRANCH_NUM.  My understanding is that if I set it to a
> large number "63000" that it should tag branches that I make with values
> roughly that large.  You can see from below that what I'm getting though
> is low-numbered branches.  I'm confused.  This is what I did on both
> -current and 4.6-release:
>
> setenv CVS_LOCAL_BRANCH_NUM 63000
> cvs rtag -b -r RELENG_4_7 RELENG_4_LCG src
>
> And this is what I get -- shouldn't that be something like 1.229.63000?
>
> cvs status UPDATING
> ===
> File: UPDATING  Status: Up-to-date
>
>Working revision:1.229
>Repository revision: 1.229   /cvs/src/UPDATING,v
>Sticky Tag:  RELENG_4_LCG (branch: 1.229.4)
>Sticky Date: (none)
>Sticky Options:  (none)
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Re: MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:21 PM -0500 2002/12/09, Trish Lynch wrote:


 At the Last Chance Saloon in Columbia

 directions can be found on http://bsdunix.net


	Cool.  Just forwarded this to the Old Bay SAGE mailing list.  Thanks!

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Re: none

[Kirk Strauser]

At 2002-12-10T00:44:03Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> hi,sorry
> 
> does Linux run with an AMD Athlon 1,2Ghz ?
> how?

Dunno.  Ask on a Linux mailing list.
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Re: MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Emiel Kollof]

On Tuesday 10 December 2002 00:10, Mario wrote:
> What do you mean?

That you'll get killfiled by a lot of people. For instance by be. Welcome to 
my blacklist! I hope you'll like it there...

[retained as to make sense of the "conversation]

> On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 05:57:07PM -0500, Mario wrote:
> > > I wanted to notify the entire channel that it was spamming, and
> > > unappreciated.  My name isn't Mario.
> >
> > Please don't forward private email to the list.
> > It's unbelievably rude.

[snip the rest]

No Cheers,
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Re: MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Emiel Kollof]

On Tuesday 10 December 2002 00:19, Mario wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Chris Corbliss wrote:
> > What's wrong with me ?
>
> Well, for one thing, you're not supposed to put a space before a question
> mark.

And you should learn how to quote properly. You waste a lot of perfectly good 
bytes to say just one line.

[big fsking SNIP]

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[ghost . driver]

hi,sorry

does Linux run with an AMD Athlon 1,2Ghz ?
how?

thx


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Re: MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Kirk Strauser]

At 2002-12-09T23:19:47Z, Mario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Chris Corbliss wrote:
> 
> > What's wrong with me ?
> Well, for one thing, you're not supposed to put a space before a question
> mark.

You're also supposed to put a blank line between the text you're replying to
and your own.
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Re: MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Mario]

What do you mean?

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Ceri Davies wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 05:57:07PM -0500, Mario wrote:
> > I wanted to notify the entire channel that it was spamming, and
> > unappreciated.  My name isn't Mario.
>
> Please don't forward private email to the list.
> It's unbelievably rude.
>
> Ceri
> > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, now that was really really intelligent.   You tell Trish to stop
> > > spamming you and then you cc both chat and hackers, only DOUBLING the
> > > amount of traffic to everyone that has now occurred on this thread.
> > > Even the domestic mice and cockroaches in my house have learned by now
> > > that when you want someone to stop "spamming" you, you reply to THEM
> > > DIRECTLY and don't simply cc everybody who got sent the original
> > > message.  When you do that, you only MULTIPLY the problem by a factor
> > > of X, where X represents all the people who are too stupid to edit
> > > their CC lines when replying to spam.  You see the CC line of this
> > > message?  You see where I have EDITED it so as not to also send this
> > > little flame to chat and hackers?  Do you think you can do that in the
> > > future, Mario?  Yes?  Thank you!
> > >
> > > - Jordan
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Re: MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Mario]

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Chris Corbliss wrote:

> What's wrong with me ?
Well, for one thing, you're not supposed to put a space before a question
mark.
>
> People who spam everyone with a complaint about non-spam amuse me.
>
Oh.
> People who can't figure out how to use email amuse me.
>
> People who call other poeple names because they can't just admit they screwed up 
>amuse
> me.
>
> You have brought much amusement to my day, so I just figured that I would try to 
>help you
> keep from broadcasting to the entire world how little you know about mailers and 
>spam and
> users groups and mailing list etiquette  ( did I miss anything ? ).
>
> Oh, yes and your complete lack of manners.
>
Try English.
>
>
> Mario wrote:
>
> > Don't tell me how to do things.  I don't have either of those buttons.
> > What's wrong with you?
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Chris Corbliss wrote:
> >
> > > Really ...
> > >
> > > So it's SPAM when someone sends a message on a FreeBSD mailing list about the
> > >
> > > MD
> > > Maryland  ( You know, the state . . )
> > >
> > > FUD
> > > FreeBSD Users Group
> > >
> > > But it is NOT SPAM to send a DON'T SPAM ME message to everyone on the list ?
> > >
> > > Dude, you really need to try decaf . . .
> > >
> > > (And maybe the "Reply to sender" button instead of "Reply to All")
> > >
> > >
> > > Mario wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yo, man, You're a JERK.
> > > >
> > > > That was SPAM.  Jrtl
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Chris Corbliss wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Try making sense . .
> > > > >
> > > > > Mario wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Try English.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Chris Corbliss wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So it's not OK for her to spam you, but it's OK for you to spam everybody
> > > > > > > with your reply ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > H...,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mario wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Stop spamming me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Trish Lynch wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > At the Last Chance Saloon in Columbia
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > directions can be found on http://bsdunix.net
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Trish
> > > > > > > > >
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Re: MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Paul Everlund]

Mario wrote:

I wanted to notify the entire channel that it was spamming, and
unappreciated.  My name isn't Mario.


I should follow Jordan Hubbards advice, not CC:ing everyone, but...

First... Why sending messages as Mario when you aren't Mario?

Second... Did you follow the link in the message? It seems to be
a BSD users group having a get together, and as people usually
are social beings (even most people sitting in front of a com-
puter) why not let other BSD users know where they can meet,
having a beer or two, talking to other people sharing a common
interest? Who knows, maybe someone comes up with a good idea
at that informal meeting, that can benefit the project? Is by
the way information about, for an example, Usenix on the mailing
list from the good people of the FreeBSD Project also spam?

I personally think (almost) everything related to BSD are
appropriate on a BSD list.


On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Jordan Hubbard wrote:



Oh, now that was really really intelligent.   You tell Trish to stop
spamming you and then you cc both chat and hackers, only DOUBLING the
amount of traffic to everyone that has now occurred on this thread.
Even the domestic mice and cockroaches in my house have learned by now
that when you want someone to stop "spamming" you, you reply to THEM
DIRECTLY and don't simply cc everybody who got sent the original
message.  When you do that, you only MULTIPLY the problem by a factor
of X, where X represents all the people who are too stupid to edit
their CC lines when replying to spam.  You see the CC line of this
message?  You see where I have EDITED it so as not to also send this
little flame to chat and hackers?  Do you think you can do that in the
future, Mario?  Yes?  Thank you!

- Jordan


Thank you Jordan for your contribution to this great OS!

Best regards,
Paul


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Stop spamming me.

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Trish Lynch wrote:



At the Last Chance Saloon in Columbia

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-Trish

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Re: MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Mario]

I wanted to notify the entire channel that it was spamming, and
unappreciated.  My name isn't Mario.

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Jordan Hubbard wrote:

> Oh, now that was really really intelligent.   You tell Trish to stop
> spamming you and then you cc both chat and hackers, only DOUBLING the
> amount of traffic to everyone that has now occurred on this thread.
> Even the domestic mice and cockroaches in my house have learned by now
> that when you want someone to stop "spamming" you, you reply to THEM
> DIRECTLY and don't simply cc everybody who got sent the original
> message.  When you do that, you only MULTIPLY the problem by a factor
> of X, where X represents all the people who are too stupid to edit
> their CC lines when replying to spam.  You see the CC line of this
> message?  You see where I have EDITED it so as not to also send this
> little flame to chat and hackers?  Do you think you can do that in the
> future, Mario?  Yes?  Thank you!
>
> - Jordan
>
> On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 12:40 PM, Mario wrote:
>
> > Stop spamming me.
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Trish Lynch wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> At the Last Chance Saloon in Columbia
> >>
> >> directions can be found on http://bsdunix.net
> >>
> >> -Trish
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unnaturally slow booting

[Yury Tarasievich]

Wanted to ask about it for quite some time.

I've got two 20G disks installed with basically same geometry. They were 
partitioned (by linux fdisk) approx. similarly (+/- 10 cylinders):
part. 1: ~1-250
part. 2 (Extended): ~751-everything that remains
part. 3: ~251-500
part. 4: ~501-750

There's FreeBSD (4.7-RELEASE) installed on ad0s3 and ad1s3. There's 
FreeBSD bootmanager installed. Instance from ad1s3 boots without any 
problems. Now, booting instance on ad0s3, beginning with kernel loading 
and through modules from loader.conf loading, takes unnaturally long 
time, "spinning bar" ticks happen at rate about 1 per sec. When kernel 
and modules are loaded, things progress as usual. In fact, I installed 
the instance on ad1s3 just to avoid this weirdness. I believe this 
behaviour started somewhere about 4.6-RELEASE. I somehow do not recall 
seeing this on 4.3-4.5, and I surely was using this scheme of 
partitioning then. I'm in no way expert, so looking through bootloader 
source didn't reveal anything to me.

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Re: MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Mario]

Stop spamming me.

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Trish Lynch wrote:

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> At the Last Chance Saloon in Columbia
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> -Trish
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MDFUG Pre-Christmas "Happy Hour" Friday, Dec 13th.

[Trish Lynch]

At the Last Chance Saloon in Columbia

directions can be found on http://bsdunix.net

-Trish

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ipfilter advanced options

[Octavian Hornoiu]

I am trying to increase the state table on IPFILTER and also the NAT_SIZE 
option but on the ipfilter how-to it says to alter a file called ipf_state.h  
This file is not available on FreeBSD.  Where is the included batch of files 
that compiles ipfilter into the kernel?  Specifically, are there comparable 
include files I could edit with the options I need?

Thanks!

Octavian

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Re: maxusers and random system freezes

[Dmitry Morozovsky]

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Varshavchick Alexander wrote:

VA> the server went to a swap, because it occurs practically instantly, and
VA> this state goes for hours. The system is lacking some resources, or may be
VA> a bug somewhere, can you give any hints to it?

Hmm, what about logging vmstat/pstat/netstat -m/sysctl vm ? Possibly to remote
machine via remote syslog?

Sincerely,
D.Marck   [DM5020, DM268-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]

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IPFW

[soheil soheil]

Dear ALL
i run this commands on my 4.4FreeBSD-Release
#/sbin/ipfw -f flush
#/sbin/ipfw divert 5050 ip from any to any
it runs the first command and say no socket found
and then when i run the second line it write the words for help and nothing 
is applied
what can i do ?
I have a divert socket on port 5050 i want to divert all of the packet to it
thanx





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Re: help compiling propolice gcc

[M. Warner Losh]

You forgot to do a make obj when building by hand.

Warner

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Re: maxusers and random system freezes

[Varshavchick Alexander]

Hi David,

Thanks, you're a genuis, didn't you know that? Your patch worked perfectly
:)

However, it didn't solve the random freezes problem. The server felt
relieved a bit, load average value pushed down a little, so when the
server is working, this change did him good.

Now more about a state when the server sleeps. It behaves as though the
load average has suddently fired to some immense value - the system
responds to ping, but all other activity has almost halted. It's not like
the server went to a swap, because it occurs practically instantly, and
this state goes for hours. The system is lacking some resources, or may be
a bug somewhere, can you give any hints to it?

My best wishes


Alexander Varshavchick, Metrocom Joint Stock Company
Phone: (812)118-3322, 118-3115(fax)

On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, David Schultz wrote:

> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:47:24 -0800
> From: David Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Varshavchick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: maxusers and random system freezes
>
> Thus spake Varshavchick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, David Schultz wrote:
> >
> > > Thus spake Varshavchick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > Well, now I made KVA space 2G, we'll see later on if it helps to get rid
> > > > of the sudden system halts, but for some reason a side-effect has
> > > > appeared: pthread_create function returns EAGAIN error now, so I had to
> > > > recompile the software using it with linux threads to make it working.
> > > > With the old kernel these pieces worked without problems. Can it be that
> > > > somehow the enlarged KVA space messed up with the threads mechanism?
> > >
> > > I'm not a pthreads expert, but my best guess is that your program
> > > tried to create a thread with a stack address that was too high.
> > > Remember that with a 2 GB KVA, user processes have only 2 GB to
> > > play with instead of 3 GB, so attempting to mmap() a stack above
> > > about 2 GB would cause pthread_create() to return EAGAIN.
> > >
> >
> > Yes this makes sense, however this call to pthread_create didn't specify
> > any special addresses for the new thread. The pthread_create was called
> > with the NULL attribute which means that the system defaults were being
> > used. Something in the system has gone wrong...
>
> I just glanced at the source in -STABLE, and it appears to be a
> pthreads bug.  (Then again, maybe I'm missing something, since
> nobody seems to have noticed this before.)  The default address at
> which new thread stacks are created is just below the main stack.
> This address is based on the lexical constant USRSTACK, but it
> should be initialized in uthread_init() based on the kern.usrstack
> value returned by sysctl.  (The correct value is already used to
> map the main stack's red zone.)  The result is that you need to
> make world and recompile any apps statically linked against
> pthreads after building your new kernel in order to get things to
> work.
>
> I don't have time to fiddle with pthreads until after Christmas,
> but you might see if the following patch (against -STABLE) helps
> when you reduce the configured KVA size without remaking pthreads.
>
> Index: uthread/uthread_init.c
> ===
> RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_init.c,v
> retrieving revision 1.23.2.10
> diff -u -r1.23.2.10 uthread_init.c
> --- uthread/uthread_init.c2002/10/22 14:44:03 1.23.2.10
> +++ uthread/uthread_init.c2002/12/06 13:41:06
> @@ -245,6 +245,8 @@
>   len = sizeof (int);
>   if (sysctl(mib, 2, &_usrstack, &len, NULL, 0) == -1)
>   _usrstack = (void *)USRSTACK;
> + _next_stack = _usrstack - PTHREAD_STACK_INITIAL -
> + PTHREAD_STACK_DEFAULT - (2 * PTHREAD_STACK_GUARD);
>   /*
>* Create a red zone below the main stack.  All other stacks are
>* constrained to a maximum size by the paramters passed to
>


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Contribution: PCL-724 driver

[Diomidis Spinellis]

I have written a device driver for the Advantech PCL-724 parallel I/O
card and made it available at
.  The PCL-724 card
emulates the Intel 8255A programmable peripheral interface chip running
in mode 0 (simple I/O).  The driver has been in production use under
4.1, 4.7 and 4.7 for about two years.  Recently I polished its
implementation and added a manual page to contribute it as part of
FreeBSD.  I am not a committer and probably do not have enough spare
time to become one.  What is the procedure for having the driver become
part of FreeBSD?  I can not see it documented in
.

Diomidis

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Re: help compiling propolice gcc

[Jacques A. Vidrine]

On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 05:22:24PM -0800, Lamont Granquist wrote:
> I'm trying to follow these instructions to build 4.7 with the propolice
> modifications to the gcc compiler:
> 
> http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp/buildfreebsd.html
> 
> I'm starting with an absolutely fresh cvs checkout and i've nuked my
> /usr/obj tree.  What I'm getting is in this step:

You can't use IBM's procedure without a /usr/obj.  Do a `make
buildworld'.

Cheers,
-- 
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