Re: Random disk cache expiry

2003-01-31 Thread Bruce R. Montague

For those thinking of playing with predictive caching
(likely an area of considerable student endeveour/interest
these days at both filesystem and web level):

---
Matthew Dillon:
  So there is no 'perfect' caching algorithm.  There
  are simply too many variables even in a well defined
  environment for even the best system heuristics to
  cover optimally.
---
David Schultz:
  If that proves to be infeasible, I'm sure there are
  ways to approximate the same thing.  The hard parts,
  I think, would be teaching the VM system to use the
  new information, and gathering statistics from which
  you form your hints.

---

Right. It's easy if you know the complete future of
the total system state, which of course you never
will.  Someone interested in this might try to apply
the latest in machine learing techniques, classifiers,
etc., to the online problem. Variants of this are
receiving lots of attention in areas such as gene
sequence prediction. I dunno, but it seems like a lot
of the math ends up pretty similar to economics, and
we all know how well those models work. Kind of funny,
running an economic simulation in your kernel... but
actually getting possible at some level, at least for
research systems with modern machines.  There was a
time when you would be fired for putting floating-point
in an OS.



 http://csl.cse.ucsc.edu/acme.shtml :

Many cache replacement policies have been invented
and some perform better than others under certain
workload and network-topological conditions. It is
impossible and sub-optimal to manually choose cache
replacement policies for workloads and topologies that
are under continuous change. We use machine learning
algorithms to automatically select the best current
policy or mixtures of policies from a policy (a.k.a
expert) pool to provide an adaptive caching service.


 - bruce

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Lower power SMP boxes?

2003-01-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
I've slowly been trying to trim down the power use in my machine room,
oweing to astronomical PGE bills :-(.  I'm using those wonderful little
EPIA series mini-itx motherboards (purchased from idot.com) as low/medium
performance servers.  They aren't all that fast but one will run a web
site, pop/sendmail, and an ordb nameserver just dandy and can copy files
over NFS at 7MBytes/s.  That covers UP systems quite well.

But MP is another story.  At some point I would like to put together
some SMP test boxes that don't cost the equivalent of rent on a small
apartment in electricity use.  They don't have to be super-fast, they
just need to be SMP.  I'm not talking about blade servers here, I'm
talking about SMP boxes for testing purposes.

Anyone have any ideas?

-Matt


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Re: Lower power SMP boxes?

2003-01-31 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 3:12 PM -0800 1/31/03, Matthew Dillon wrote:

But MP is another story.  At some point I would like to put
together some SMP test boxes that don't cost the equivalent
of rent on a small apartment in electricity use.  They don't
have to be super-fast, they just need to be SMP.  I'm not
talking about blade servers here, I'm talking about SMP
boxes for testing purposes.

Anyone have any ideas?


The arrival of FreeBSD/PPC might give you some cheaper options.

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Re: Lower power SMP boxes?

2003-01-31 Thread cameron grant
But MP is another story.  At some point I would like to put together
some SMP test boxes that don't cost the equivalent of rent on a small
apartment in electricity use.  They don't have to be super-fast, they
just need to be SMP.  I'm not talking about blade servers here, I'm
talking about SMP boxes for testing purposes.

Anyone have any ideas?


http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7434 might be of interest.

	-cg


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