Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:28:14PM -0500, Tyler Kellen wrote: Tim, I've been pointed in the direction of the delete-and-reboot method a few times before. I'd really like some pointers for trimming down quickly that doesn't involve hours of trial and error. You might take a look at m0n0bsd: http://m0n0.ch/bsd/ -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form X is the one, true Y is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Port bonding on nc3122 ( dual fxp ) NIC
Steven Hartland wrote: Does anyone know if this is possible. I've done some googling around and cant find anything. Using 5.1-RELEASE is just detecting them as fxp0 and fxp1 Assuming that I understand what you are asking, I believe that in FreeBSD they call it netgraph - man ng_one2many should give you the info you need. I had a friend who tried it out, and it seems to be completely compatible with the port bonding that Linux provides. (He also felt that the documentation for FreeBSD netgraph was better than the documentation that came with Linux port bonding, in particular the FreeBSD docs were better at explaining how it worked.) -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
On 2003-08-26, Diomidis Spinellis wrote: Tyler Kellen wrote: The information I'm looking to aquire is the absolute minimum files required to boot FreeBSD 4.8 into multi-user mode. If this involves deleting a massive amount of directories and files, or setting up a new drive and copying only the needed files, I think I can make it work. You can use the system the way you intent to for two weeks, and then run find / -atime +2w -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f This command will delete all files that have not been accessed within the last two weeks. And it would also remove things like find and xargs and all the other system binaries -- their atime does not get changed when they are executed. Check your facts before giving this kind of advice. -- Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html GPG signed mail preferred; further information in headers. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
Actually, I have a small script that does something like this. Here's
a breif sketch.
# prepare /cf
make buildworld
${chroot} /bin/sh -${e}c (cd $srcdir
env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$objdir make -m ${srcdir}/share/mk -f \
Makefile.inc1 hierarchy DESTDIR=$dstdir NOMAN=yes
(cd etc ; env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$objdir make -m ${srcdir}/share/mk \
distribution DESTDIR=$dstdir NOMAN=yes)
for i in ${FreeBSDProgramDirs}; do
echo \== \$i\
test -d \$i
(cd \$i ; env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$objdir make -m ${srcdir}/share/mk \
install -DNOINFO -DNOMAN DESTDIR=$dstdir -DNOPROFILE)
done)
Here's my current minimal list for a bootable system, although you
might be able to trim it a little. Also, it is optimized for 4.5.
There will some tweaks needed for 4.8. Also, I've done the buildworld
with NOSHARED=no since we put both / and /usr on the same partition in
our systems.
My scripts are more complete, but also very specific to Timing
Solutions' needs. I've used these scripts to build flashes that take
up about 12M or so. There's about 2M that can be trimmed.
Warner
P.S. Maybe I should find some time to pull together these scripts in
a releaseable format...
P.P.S., Here's what I use to set FreeBSDProgramDirs to in an
over-arching makefile.
FREEBSDMIN+= \
bin/cat \
bin/chmod \
bin/cp \
bin/csh \
bin/date \
bin/dd \
bin/df \
bin/echo \
bin/expr \
bin/hostname \
bin/kill \
bin/ln \
bin/ls \
bin/mkdir \
bin/mv \
bin/pwd \
bin/ps \
bin/rcp \
bin/rm \
bin/rmdir \
bin/sh \
bin/sleep \
bin/stty \
bin/sync \
bin/test \
gnu/lib/libregex \
gnu/usr.bin/awk \
gnu/usr.bin/cpio \
gnu/usr.bin/diff \
gnu/usr.bin/diff3 \
gnu/usr.bin/grep \
gnu/usr.bin/gzip \
gnu/usr.bin/tar \
lib/libc \
lib/libstdc++ \
lib/libcrypt \
lib/libdevstat \
lib/libedit \
lib/libipsec \
lib/libipx \
lib/libkvm \
lib/libmd \
lib/libnetgraph \
lib/libncurses \
lib/libpam \
lib/libskey \
lib/libutil \
lib/libwrap \
lib/libz \
lib/msun \
libexec/ftpd \
libexec/getty \
libexec/rlogind \
libexec/rshd \
libexec/rtld-elf \
libexec/telnetd \
sbin/adjkerntz \
sbin/dhclient \
sbin/disklabel \
sbin/dmesg \
sbin/fsck \
sbin/i386/fdisk \
sbin/ifconfig \
sbin/init \
sbin/ipfw \
sbin/kldload \
sbin/kldstat \
sbin/kldunload \
sbin/ldconfig \
sbin/md5 \
sbin/mknod \
sbin/mount \
sbin/mount_null \
sbin/mount_nfs \
sbin/newfs \
sbin/ping \
sbin/reboot \
sbin/route \
sbin/swapon \
sbin/sysctl \
sbin/umount \
share/termcap \
sys/boot \
usr.bin/chflags \
usr.bin/du \
usr.bin/ee \
usr.bin/env \
usr.bin/ftp \
usr.bin/find \
usr.bin/head \
usr.bin/hexdump \
usr.bin/id \
usr.bin/killall \
usr.bin/ldd \
usr.bin/less \
usr.bin/login \
usr.bin/netstat \
usr.bin/objformat \
usr.bin/rsh \
usr.bin/rlogin \
usr.bin/sed \
usr.bin/su \
usr.bin/tail \
usr.bin/telnet \
usr.bin/tip \
usr.bin/top \
usr.bin/touch \
usr.bin/tr \
usr.bin/tty \
usr.bin/uname \
usr.bin/vi \
usr.sbin/arp \
usr.sbin/chown \
usr.sbin/cron \
usr.sbin/dev_mkdb \
usr.sbin/inetd \
usr.sbin/mtree \
usr.sbin/ntp/ntpd \
usr.sbin/ntp/ntpdate \
usr.sbin/ntp/ntpq \
usr.sbin/kbdcontrol \
usr.sbin/pwd_mkdb \
usr.sbin/syslogd \
usr.sbin/traceroute \
usr.sbin/vidcontrol \
usr.sbin/vipw
# kitchen sink FreeBSD on flash
FREEBSDMAX+=${FREEBSDMIN} \
gnu/lib/libreadline \
lib/libftpio \
lib/librpcsvc \
usr.bin/vmstat \
usr.bin/w \
usr.sbin/ntp/ntpdc \
usr.sbin/ntp/ntptime \
usr.sbin/ntp/ntptimeset \
usr.sbin/ntp/ntptrace
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Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
Actually, I have a small script that does something like this. Here's
a breif sketch.
# prepare /cf
make buildworld
${chroot} /bin/sh -${e}c (cd $srcdir
env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$objdir make -m ${srcdir}/share/mk -f \
Makefile.inc1 hierarchy DESTDIR=$dstdir NOMAN=yes
(cd etc ; env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$objdir make -m ${srcdir}/share/mk \
distribution DESTDIR=$dstdir NOMAN=yes)
for i in ${FreeBSDProgramDirs}; do
echo \== \$i\
test -d \$i
(cd \$i ; env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=$objdir make -m ${srcdir}/share/mk \
install -DNOINFO -DNOMAN DESTDIR=$dstdir -DNOPROFILE)
done)
Here's my current minimal list for a bootable system, although you
might be able to trim it a little. Also, it is optimized for 4.5.
There will some tweaks needed for 4.8. Also, I've done the buildworld
with NOSHARED=no since we put both / and /usr on the same partition in
our systems.
My scripts are more complete, but also very specific to Timing
Solutions' needs. I've used these scripts to build flashes that take
up about 12M or so. There's about 2M that can be trimmed.
Warner
P.S. Maybe I should find some time to pull together these scripts in
a releaseable format...
P.P.S., Here's what I use to set FreeBSDProgramDirs to in an
over-arching makefile.
I've used a hacked-on version of Warner's scripts to build a FreeBSD
based firewall distribution to run on the Soekris 4501 box. I was
able to get a running system for that application on an 8MB CF card.
Of course, the kernel was compressed and it was pretty stripped down..
I'm currently using a 32MB CF card, with two 16MB partitions for this
purpose (so I can back up to the previous version easily).
Of course, no gcc. And heavens, no VI! Got a microemacs on there
instead, whew!
I also built my system with NOSHARED=no to dramatically reduce the
space requirements for the root (and only) file system, and it works
great.
louie
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Re: Bug FreeBSD 4.8 ATA driver
Mikulas Patocka napsal/wrote, On 08/20/03 01:39:
I am reading FreeBSD ATA drivers because I want to use them as base for my
ATA driver and I found a total nonsence: in ata-dma.c in FreeBSD 4.8,
there is line
if (!((pci_read_config(parent,0x40,4)(ch-unit8))0x4000)) {
if ch-unit is 1, config word is shifted by 256 bytes, which gives
undefined result in C. How was this meant? What should it do?
Hm, it should be (IMHO)
if (!((pci_read_config(parent,0x40,4)(ch-unit5))0x4000))
but I can't verify it as have no access to documentation for PIIX3 nor
acces to the PIIX3 hardware now.
Note the position of '8' just above the '5' key on numeric keypad also ...
FYI, the gcc compile the code as equivalent of
if (!((pci_read_config(parent,0x40,4)(0))0x4000))
effectively ignoring the ch-unit number.
If you want wrote your own ATA driver, it may be better to look into
current FreeBSD 5 ATA code - it's substantially rewrited.
A smel bych, uz asi mimo konferenci, vedet, proc si pises vlastni ATA
ovladac ?
Dan
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Re: Bug FreeBSD 4.8 ATA driver
Mikulas Patocka napsal/wrote, On 08/20/03 01:39:
I am reading FreeBSD ATA drivers because I want to use them as base for my
ATA driver and I found a total nonsence: in ata-dma.c in FreeBSD 4.8,
there is line
if (!((pci_read_config(parent,0x40,4)(ch-unit8))0x4000)) {
if ch-unit is 1, config word is shifted by 256 bytes, which gives
undefined result in C. How was this meant? What should it do?
Hm, it should be (IMHO)
if (!((pci_read_config(parent,0x40,4)(ch-unit5))0x4000))
but I can't verify it as have no access to documentation for PIIX3 nor
acces to the PIIX3 hardware now.
Note the position of '8' just above the '5' key on numeric keypad also ...
FYI, the gcc compile the code as equivalent of
if (!((pci_read_config(parent,0x40,4)(0))0x4000))
effectively ignoring the ch-unit number.
If you want wrote your own ATA driver, it may be better to look into
current FreeBSD 5 ATA code - it's substantially rewrited.
A smel bych, uz asi mimo konferenci, vedet, proc si pises vlastni ATA
ovladac ?
Dan
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Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Louis A. Mamakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : able to get a running system for that application on an 8MB CF card. I had one experimental version that compressed this onto a MFS and gzip'd the thing and made it fit into a 4MB DiskOnChip part with a compressed tiny kernel and a compressed FS, but it was a big pita to build and couldn't fit our application But that may have been in the 3.4 or 3.5 timeframe. Warner ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug FreeBSD 4.8 ATA driver
I am reading FreeBSD ATA drivers because I want to use them as base for
my ATA driver and I found a total nonsence: in ata-dma.c in FreeBSD 4.8,
there is line
if (!((pci_read_config(parent,0x40,4)(ch-unit8))0x4000)) {
if ch-unit is 1, config word is shifted by 256 bytes, which gives
undefined result in C. How was this meant? What should it do?
Hm, it should be (IMHO)
if (!((pci_read_config(parent,0x40,4)(ch-unit5))0x4000))
but I can't verify it as have no access to documentation for PIIX3 nor
acces to the PIIX3 hardware now.
I have PIIX3 contorller on a machine with FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE; I am willing to
test whatever needed.
26.08.2003; 22:32:58
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Re: [hackers] Re: BCM4401 ethernet driver
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 20:31:22 +0100, Duncan Barclay wrote:
On 26-Aug-2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings;
Wondering whatever further may have come of this discussion regarding
FreeBSD support of the built-in ethernet for the Dell Inspiron 8500 Notebook.
Running a dual-boot system with MS Windows XP and FreeBSD 4.8 Release since
5.1
wouldn't seem to install, but not even sure how to make use of drivers beyond
including their device code in the kernel configuration file, which may just
be an issue with this current release.
I fixed the RX problem yesterday. Take a look at
http://people.freebsd.org/~dmlb/
and grab the lastest bcm_...tar.gz file. Untar this into /sys
then
cd /sys/modules/bcm
make
make install
kldload if_bcm
This driver is for -current only.
Once I've done a bit more work on it and committed it, I'll back port to
-stable.
I'm still having the bcm0: strange type for core 0x panic when I
load it as a module.
When I compile it into the kernel, I get a panic on boot. The stack trace
is:
bcm_ring_rx_eof()
bcm_intr()
ithread_loop()
fork_exit()
fork_trampoline()
The specific place in bcm_ring_rx_eof() it is bailing out is:
(kgdb) list *(bcm_ring_rx_eof+0x62)
0xc019e402 is in bcm_ring_rx_eof (../../../dev/bcm/if_bcm.c:958).
953 struct mbuf *m;
954 struct bcm_rxh *rxh;
955 int j = 0, len, flags;
956
957 m = scp-desc_rx_bis[con].mbuf;
958 rxh = mtod(m, struct bcm_rxh *);
959 do {
960 /* XXX DELAY(1); */
961 bus_dmamap_sync(scp-tag_mbuf,
962 scp-desc_rx_bis[con].dmamap,
i.e. the mtod() call there.
At that point the interface hasn't been configured at all...
I've got a Dell 8500 laptop.
Ken
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Re: [despammed] Re: Looking for detailed documentation: Install toexisting filesystem
here's something you might get interested (see live-install section) http://www.the-labs.com/FreeBSD/ -denisz- On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:52:54 -0700, Avleen Vig lists- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 03:36:41PM -0500, Charles Howse wrote: Hi, I've posted this request to 'questions' with no response, so now I'll ask 'hackers'. I'm a hobbyist, and for my personal education, I would like to learn how to install FBSD from an existing filesystem, rather than from FTP or CD. My intention is to copy the files to a directory on the second HDD of my present FBSD system, and point sysinstall to that partition/directory during the install. This may not answer the questions you posed, but it may be a good start for you. You have two options i can think of, if you want to mimic a traditional /stand/sysinstall installation process. 1) install an FTP server, and choose an FTP install. 2) export the hard drive over NFS, and use that. Or, a better way which I would recommend: download the source code, and put if on the second drive. We'll assume /usr/src and /usr/obj are mounted on the *second* hard drive. Run something like this: cd /usr/src make buildworld a flag* * the 'a flag' is a flag I don't recall off the top of my head, but * it lets you change which drive / other mounted location, the new * build is installed to. Maybe someone else can help here? make buildkernel then when you want to install to a third hard drive, mount it as the location give in 'a flag' to make on the previous step, then run: make make installkernel make installworld mergemaster that should isntall the compiled sources to the new drive pretty quickly. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Filtered by despammed.com. Tracer: NAA286291061837613 Remember: you can forward any spam that slips through the filters to the abuse desk here at Despammed. -- Using Opera's M2 e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bcm4400 driver and Dell 8500
Hello James and Ken, Both of you are having real problems with the bcm driver and both of you have a Dell 8500. This is James' dmesg output, which from memory looks very similar to your Ken? bcm0: Broadcom 10/100 Base-T Ethernet mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci2 bcm0: Ethernet address: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff panic: bcm0: Strange type for core 0x I'm running 5.1-current from august 22nd. I can try pulling down the latest 5.1 tommorow if you think this might help. This is the same result as when I tried the driver from over a month ago. We think that the problem is something to do with the PCI configuration of the machine. The ethernet address being ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff indicates that the memory map is not right. Before sending this email I was going to obtain a backtrace. I recompiled with the symbol table and kernel debugger and now the driver appears to work fine. Should it work this way? Hmm interesting. Ken can you try this and see if the driver then works? Duncan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:53:38AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: On 2003-08-26, Diomidis Spinellis wrote: You can use the system the way you intent to for two weeks, and then run find / -atime +2w -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f This command will delete all files that have not been accessed within the last two weeks. And it would also remove things like find and xargs and all the other system binaries -- their atime does not get changed when they are executed. Check your facts before giving this kind of advice. Not to mention /kernel and the contents of /boot since the bootloader doesn't update atime either. The result may be more minimalist than Tyler intends. Peter ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:02:16PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:53:38AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: On 2003-08-26, Diomidis Spinellis wrote: You can use the system the way you intent to for two weeks, and then run find / -atime +2w -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f This command will delete all files that have not been accessed within the last two weeks. And it would also remove things like find and xargs and all the other system binaries -- their atime does not get changed when they are executed. Check your facts before giving this kind of advice. Not to mention /kernel and the contents of /boot since the bootloader doesn't update atime either. The result may be more minimalist than Tyler intends. No, I guess /kernel won't be removed because of schg :-) -ip -- Logic is a little bird, sitting in a tree; that smells *_awful*. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for detailed documentation: Install to existingfilesystem
Charles Howse wrote: I'm a hobbyist, and for my personal education, I would like to learn how to install FBSD from an existing filesystem, rather than from FTP or CD. My intention is to copy the files to a directory on the second HDD of my present FBSD system, and point sysinstall to that partition/directory during the install. This is fairly easy. What you do it copy the files to a directory on a second disk drive on the machine, and point sysinstall to that partition/directory during the install. 8-). I can't seem to find any detailed instructions. The handbook just glosses over it, saying follow the instructions on the screen in sysinstall. I've Googled for days and can only find other people asking the same question and talking about their failures. The easiest thing to do is follow the instructions in sysinstall. The reason the handbook says this is that the order of dialogs, etc., in sysinstall varies from version to version of FreeBSD. Here is an example of detailed instructions for a particular version of FreeBSD. If you have a different version, you will need to use instructions matching the version of sysinstall you happen to be using: C return 13*cursor down space 7*cursor up space 7 (selects option 6 from Choose Installation Media dialog because sysinstall is stupid) return Enter the pathname of the directory containing the installation files return Q cursor right (Cancel) return U (for Upgrade) return (disclaimer screen) return return (to begin upgrade) I need to know: 1) What files do I need to have on the partition from which I will be installing? Everything from the first CDROM, in the same directory hierarchy. It's easiest if you just mount a CDROM, or mount a vnconfig'ed CDROM ISO image as a cd9660 FS. 2) ftp address and directory where I can find those files. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/ The exact subdirectory depends on which particular version you are trying to upgrade to. 3) Can FBSD install from the .iso files? Yes, if you vnconfig them and mount them up as FS's so that to the system they appear as CDROMs, instead of ISOs. 4) A link to a tutorial or howto would really be nice. If none exists, I might consider writing one once I figure out how to do it properly. It's at least slightly different for every version of the system (see above). That's also why you didn't find one. PS: You should also vnconfig the floppy image on the vnconfig'ed ISO image, and pull sysinstall off there, instead of using your local copy. The sysinstall program has some string lists which are hard-coded, and may also vary from version to version. As it is a crunchgen'ed file, you will need to name it sysinstall for it to work. I suggest copying it to /tmp, and running it from there. PPS: I've posted detailed instructions on doing this at least three times in the past three years, since I needed to upgrade over NFS to a machine without anything but a local copy of FreeBSD that could be booted; start looking around June of 2001 in the -current and -hackers archives. -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
latest fujitsu-siemens boxes and keyboards
Is possible that the keyboards that are shipping with the latest fujitsu-siemens pc/servers don't want to work with FreeBSD ? They (pc or servers) work fine with older keyboard but not with the new ones ? Any tips ? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bcm4400 driver and Dell 8500
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:40:25 +0100, Duncan Barclay wrote:
Hello James and Ken,
Both of you are having real problems with the bcm driver and both of you
have a Dell 8500.
This is James' dmesg output, which from memory looks very similar to your
Ken?
bcm0: Broadcom 10/100 Base-T Ethernet mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 11
at device 0.0 on pci2
bcm0: Ethernet address: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
panic: bcm0: Strange type for core 0x
Yep, the messages I get are identical when I load it as a module.
I'm running 5.1-current from august 22nd. I can try pulling down the
latest 5.1 tommorow if you think this might help. This is the same result
as when I tried the driver from over a month ago.
We think that the problem is something to do with the PCI configuration of
the machine. The ethernet address being ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff indicates that the
memory map is not right.
Before sending this email I was going to obtain a backtrace. I recompiled
with the symbol table and kernel debugger and now the driver appears to
work fine. Should it work this way?
Hmm interesting. Ken can you try this and see if the driver then works?
I've already got the kernel debugger on. Do you mean changing the module
compile somehow so that more symbols are included? (It seems to resolve
the function addresses in the module fine.)
compiling with options DDB and makeoptions DEBUG=-g is what i mean
The stack trace from the module load is:
panic()
bcm_chip_get_core()
bcm_chip_reset()
bcm_attach()
device_probe_and_attach()
etc.
If I boot a kernel with the bcm driver compiled in, and don't attach to the
docking station, it comes up fine until I insert my fxp card in the carbus
slot. Then I get the panic in bcm_ring_rx_eof() that I reported last
night. FWIW, when I have the driver compiled in, the memory location is
identical to location used when the module loads (above), but the ethernet
address is properly decoded:
bcm0: Broadcom 10/100 Base-T Ethernet mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 11 at device
0.0 on pci2
bcm0: Ethernet address: 00:0b:db:94:bf:42
miibus0: MII bus on bcm0
If I boot a kernel with the bcm driver compiled in, and don't attach to the
docking station, and don't insert my fxp card, I get slightly further. I
tried running dhclient, and got:
All mbufs or mbuf clusters exhausted, please see tuning(7).
bcm0: initialization failed: no memory for rx buffers
Then I tried just manually ifconfiging the interface, and it works!
Here's what netstat -m says:
{erebor:/usr/home/ken:1:0} netstat -nm
mbuf usage:
GEN cache: 0/0 (in use/in pool)
CPU #0 cache: 576/608 (in use/in pool)
Total: 576/608 (in use/in pool)
Mbuf cache high watermark: 512
Maximum possible: 34304
Allocated mbuf types:
576 mbufs allocated to data
1% of mbuf map consumed
mbuf cluster usage:
GEN cache: 0/0 (in use/in pool)
CPU #0 cache: 575/584 (in use/in pool)
Total: 575/584 (in use/in pool)
Cluster cache high watermark: 128
Maximum possible: 17152
3% of cluster map consumed
1320 KBytes of wired memory reserved (98% in use)
1 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines
Performance, once I manually assigned an address seems okay; I was able to
ftp a file over from another machine at a little over 11MB/sec.
If I insert the fxp card after the bcm driver is configured, the cardbus
initialization fails, and then I get the following messages over and over
again:
eek j=6, macCurrent 511, con288
At that point I can 't even break into the debugger.
That's all the time I have for tinkering with it this morning...
Looks like things are working somewhat better, but there is still some
weird stuff going on...
Ken
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bcm driver. I only have used it as a module and have not tried otherwise.
-James
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RE: Looking for detailed documentation: Install to existingfilesystem
This is fairly easy. What you do it copy the files to a directory on a second disk drive on the machine, and point sysinstall to that partition/directory during the install. 8-). (tongue in cheek) Thank you! ;-) OK, here's what I did. Remember, I just want to install from scratch, not upgrade or anything too complicated. I copied the entire contents of CD 1 to /dev/ad3s1e/freebsd which I mount as /disk2/freebsd. I used Midnight Commander to do this, selecting each directory and telling it to dive into subdirectories if they exist. I booted from the CD, worked my way as usual to the Media Selection menu and chose Install from an existing filesystem. I *did* set the mount point for ad3s1e to /disk2 and did not toggle NewFS (preserve files). I entered /dev/ad3s1e/freebsd as the location. It failed with can't copy each and every distribution from /mnt/dev/ad3s1e/freebsd Try again? Y Failed. Etc., etc., etc. I tried the whole thing again, entering /mnt/dev/ad3s1e/freebsd this time as the location. Failed again. I looked at the debug output with ALT + F2, and the only thing I remember was that it said it couldn't open some file for writing. This is the exact same error that I see so many people posting about when I Goolge for a solution to this question. The most frequent thing they ask is, Do I have to mount the partition on which the distfiles are located before I install? If so, how? Any suggestions (careful! grin)? PPS: I've posted detailed instructions on doing this at least three times in the past three years, since I needed to upgrade over NFS to a machine without anything but a local copy of FreeBSD that could be booted; start looking around June of 2001 in the -current and -hackers archives. I searched a while and didn't find anything, probably gave up too soon, decided to just wing it. I'm off today and don't mind fiddling around trying to figure this out. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
As has been mentioned, the FreeBSD source tree as shipped isn't configured for minimization without a fair amount of effort. However, there are a number of larger components, typically maintained by third parties, that are build-time removable, and are typically arguments to the build specified in make.conf. Here are the components people like to disable with relative frequency, found by grepping for '^#NO' in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf, plus a little trimming for entries that have to do with compile flags on -CURRENT: #NO_CVS=true# do not build CVS #NO_CXX=true# do not build C++ and friends #NO_BIND= true# do not build BIND #NO_FORTRAN=true# do not build g77 and related libraries #NO_GDB=true# do not build GDB #NO_I4B=true# do not build isdn4bsd package #NO_IPFILTER= true# do not build IP Filter package #NO_KERBEROS= true# do not build and install Kerberos 5 (KTH Heimdal) #NO_LPR=true# do not build lpr and related programs #NO_MAILWRAPPER=true# do not build the mailwrapper(8) MTA selector #NO_MODULES=true# do not build modules with the kernel #NO_OBJC= true# do not build Objective C support #NO_OPENSSH=true# do not build OpenSSH #NO_OPENSSL=true# do not build OpenSSL (implies NO_KERBEROS and #NO_SENDMAIL= true# do not build sendmail and related programs #NO_SHAREDOCS= true# do not build the 4.4BSD legacy docs #NO_TCSH= true# do not build and install /bin/csh (which is tcsh) #NO_X= true# do not compile in XWindows support (e.g. doscmd) #NOCRYPT= true# do not build any crypto code #NOGAMES= true# do not build games (games/ subdir) #NOINFO=true# do not make or install info files #NOLIBC_R= true# do not build libc_r (re-entrant version of libc) #NOMAN= true# do not build manual pages #NOPROFILE= true# Avoid compiling profiled libraries #NOSHARE= true# do not go into the share subdir On 4.x-STABLE, the set is slightly different as Kerberos5 isn't built by default, UUCP is included in the source tree, etc. I don't think we currently have a NO_GCC flag or NO_BINUTILS to avoid installing the compiler and related tools, but I imagine those would be fairly straight-forward to build. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Associates Laboratories ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bcm4400 driver and Dell 8500
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 09:27, James Nobis wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:40:25 +0100, Duncan Barclay wrote:
Hello James and Ken,
Both of you are having real problems with the bcm driver and both of you
have a Dell 8500.
This is James' dmesg output, which from memory looks very similar to your
Ken?
bcm0: Broadcom 10/100 Base-T Ethernet mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 11
at device 0.0 on pci2
bcm0: Ethernet address: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
panic: bcm0: Strange type for core 0x
Yep, the messages I get are identical when I load it as a module.
I'm running 5.1-current from august 22nd. I can try pulling down the
latest 5.1 tommorow if you think this might help. This is the same result
as when I tried the driver from over a month ago.
We think that the problem is something to do with the PCI configuration of
the machine. The ethernet address being ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff indicates that the
memory map is not right.
Before sending this email I was going to obtain a backtrace. I recompiled
with the symbol table and kernel debugger and now the driver appears to
work fine. Should it work this way?
Hmm interesting. Ken can you try this and see if the driver then works?
I've already got the kernel debugger on. Do you mean changing the module
compile somehow so that more symbols are included? (It seems to resolve
the function addresses in the module fine.)
compiling with options DDB and makeoptions DEBUG=-g is what i mean
Note, on my 5150, I also have a kernel built with -g. I do not have DDB
compiled in, but I have never tried a kernel without -g. I may be
susceptible to the same all-ffs problem.
Joe
The stack trace from the module load is:
panic()
bcm_chip_get_core()
bcm_chip_reset()
bcm_attach()
device_probe_and_attach()
etc.
If I boot a kernel with the bcm driver compiled in, and don't attach to the
docking station, it comes up fine until I insert my fxp card in the carbus
slot. Then I get the panic in bcm_ring_rx_eof() that I reported last
night. FWIW, when I have the driver compiled in, the memory location is
identical to location used when the module loads (above), but the ethernet
address is properly decoded:
bcm0: Broadcom 10/100 Base-T Ethernet mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 11 at device
0.0 on pci2
bcm0: Ethernet address: 00:0b:db:94:bf:42
miibus0: MII bus on bcm0
If I boot a kernel with the bcm driver compiled in, and don't attach to the
docking station, and don't insert my fxp card, I get slightly further. I
tried running dhclient, and got:
All mbufs or mbuf clusters exhausted, please see tuning(7).
bcm0: initialization failed: no memory for rx buffers
Then I tried just manually ifconfiging the interface, and it works!
Here's what netstat -m says:
{erebor:/usr/home/ken:1:0} netstat -nm
mbuf usage:
GEN cache: 0/0 (in use/in pool)
CPU #0 cache: 576/608 (in use/in pool)
Total: 576/608 (in use/in pool)
Mbuf cache high watermark: 512
Maximum possible: 34304
Allocated mbuf types:
576 mbufs allocated to data
1% of mbuf map consumed
mbuf cluster usage:
GEN cache: 0/0 (in use/in pool)
CPU #0 cache: 575/584 (in use/in pool)
Total: 575/584 (in use/in pool)
Cluster cache high watermark: 128
Maximum possible: 17152
3% of cluster map consumed
1320 KBytes of wired memory reserved (98% in use)
1 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines
Performance, once I manually assigned an address seems okay; I was able to
ftp a file over from another machine at a little over 11MB/sec.
If I insert the fxp card after the bcm driver is configured, the cardbus
initialization fails, and then I get the following messages over and over
again:
eek j=6, macCurrent 511, con288
At that point I can 't even break into the debugger.
That's all the time I have for tinkering with it this morning...
Looks like things are working somewhat better, but there is still some
weird stuff going on...
Ken
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I don't have a docking station. The built in ethernet is which uses the
bcm driver. I only have used it as a module and have not tried otherwise.
-James
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Re: Call for thread testers
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Scott Long wrote: Packages that I would most like to see are: [...] Others? Wine? (ports/emulators/wine) Though I'm currently fighting to get the CVS version cooperate on 4-STABLE, given recent changes to the threading support in Wine. The questions that I would like to have answered are: Does it take advantage of pthreads Does it work with libkse and libthr Does it operate correctly Does it perform better/worse than with libc_r Does it perform better/worse than under FreeBSD 4.x What would be extremely helpful, IMHO, would be guidelines how to use the various kinds of threading support (especially in the ports collection). Especially, how should we update ports so that they work both on 4.x and 5.x and, optionally, take advantage of the other threading packages? Is there some nice overview somewhere? Gerald PS: For example, our system compiler on -STABLE fails to build Wine if sources are compiled with -pthread, but linked without this option, while this works fine with stock GCC 3.2.3 (which is most likely due to problems in Wine, not FreeBSD or GCC, but still a problem). -- Gerald Pfeifer (Jerry) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pfeifer.com/gerald/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:26:10AM +1000, John Birrell wrote: One way to do this initially is to install a full FreeBSD system on one disk partition and use a second partition for a trial install. FreeBSD's boot manager will let you boot into each. As I'm pursuing these matters as well, I've found that mucking with jails is faster, for a lot of bulk work. Starting/stopping a jail is _much_ quicker than reboots. (And it's a lot easier to reset a jail to a prior state.) This won't exercise the rc* scripts, but will let you quickly test for dependancies elsewhere. And whatever you find for dependancies, please document them somewhere; I still have a fantasy of 'deconstructing' FreeBSD into finer-grained packages... -- John Birrell ___ -- Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert[EMAIL PROTECTED] 37 Crystal Ave. #303Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA BSD admin/developer at large ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for detailed documentation: Install toexistingfilesystem
If you mounted ad3s1e on /disk2 and on /disk2 was freebsd/ with the distrobution files in it, I am suspecting you would be telling sysinstall to look to /disk2/freebsd rather than /dev/ad3s1e/freebsd since /dev/ad3s1e/ is just the device not the acual mounted file system. Hope this helps. -- Cheers, Josh Sixlabs - Original Message - From: Charles Howse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:48 PM Subject: RE: Looking for detailed documentation: Install to existingfilesystem This is fairly easy. What you do it copy the files to a directory on a second disk drive on the machine, and point sysinstall to that partition/directory during the install. 8-). (tongue in cheek) Thank you! ;-) OK, here's what I did. Remember, I just want to install from scratch, not upgrade or anything too complicated. I copied the entire contents of CD 1 to /dev/ad3s1e/freebsd which I mount as /disk2/freebsd. I used Midnight Commander to do this, selecting each directory and telling it to dive into subdirectories if they exist. I booted from the CD, worked my way as usual to the Media Selection menu and chose Install from an existing filesystem. I *did* set the mount point for ad3s1e to /disk2 and did not toggle NewFS (preserve files). I entered /dev/ad3s1e/freebsd as the location. It failed with can't copy each and every distribution from /mnt/dev/ad3s1e/freebsd Try again? Y Failed. Etc., etc., etc. I tried the whole thing again, entering /mnt/dev/ad3s1e/freebsd this time as the location. Failed again. I looked at the debug output with ALT + F2, and the only thing I remember was that it said it couldn't open some file for writing. This is the exact same error that I see so many people posting about when I Goolge for a solution to this question. The most frequent thing they ask is, Do I have to mount the partition on which the distfiles are located before I install? If so, how? Any suggestions (careful! grin)? PPS: I've posted detailed instructions on doing this at least three times in the past three years, since I needed to upgrade over NFS to a machine without anything but a local copy of FreeBSD that could be booted; start looking around June of 2001 in the -current and -hackers archives. I searched a while and didn't find anything, probably gave up too soon, decided to just wing it. I'm off today and don't mind fiddling around trying to figure this out. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for detailed documentation: Install toexistingfilesystem
Oh excuse me I didn't properly read the whole message.. Assuming that /dev/ad3s1e is ufs (freebsd file system) You would mount device pathtomount for example: # mkdir /disk2 # mount /dev/ad3s1e /disk2 and then just direct sysinstall to /disk2 or /disk2/freebsd depending on where the files are. You can find out more about mount by typing # man mount -- Cheers, Josh Sixlabs - Original Message - From: Charles Howse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:48 PM Subject: RE: Looking for detailed documentation: Install to existingfilesystem This is fairly easy. What you do it copy the files to a directory on a second disk drive on the machine, and point sysinstall to that partition/directory during the install. 8-). (tongue in cheek) Thank you! ;-) OK, here's what I did. Remember, I just want to install from scratch, not upgrade or anything too complicated. I copied the entire contents of CD 1 to /dev/ad3s1e/freebsd which I mount as /disk2/freebsd. I used Midnight Commander to do this, selecting each directory and telling it to dive into subdirectories if they exist. I booted from the CD, worked my way as usual to the Media Selection menu and chose Install from an existing filesystem. I *did* set the mount point for ad3s1e to /disk2 and did not toggle NewFS (preserve files). I entered /dev/ad3s1e/freebsd as the location. It failed with can't copy each and every distribution from /mnt/dev/ad3s1e/freebsd Try again? Y Failed. Etc., etc., etc. I tried the whole thing again, entering /mnt/dev/ad3s1e/freebsd this time as the location. Failed again. I looked at the debug output with ALT + F2, and the only thing I remember was that it said it couldn't open some file for writing. This is the exact same error that I see so many people posting about when I Goolge for a solution to this question. The most frequent thing they ask is, Do I have to mount the partition on which the distfiles are located before I install? If so, how? Any suggestions (careful! grin)? PPS: I've posted detailed instructions on doing this at least three times in the past three years, since I needed to upgrade over NFS to a machine without anything but a local copy of FreeBSD that could be booted; start looking around June of 2001 in the -current and -hackers archives. I searched a while and didn't find anything, probably gave up too soon, decided to just wing it. I'm off today and don't mind fiddling around trying to figure this out. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Looking for detailed documentation: Install toexistingfilesystem
If you mounted ad3s1e on /disk2 and on /disk2 was freebsd/ with the distrobution files in it, I am suspecting you would be telling sysinstall to look to /disk2/freebsd rather than /dev/ad3s1e/freebsd since /dev/ad3s1e/ is just the device not the acual mounted file system. Hope this helps. With all due respect, are you sure about that? Here's why I ask... Since I booted from the CD (or I could have opted to boot from the floppies), and went through the entire install process, creating partitions and slices, the fact that I created a new mount point for /dev/ades1e on /disk2 would lead me to believe that /disk2 would not be mounted at that point, therefore the distfiles would not be available. Now, I'm sure they would be available if I had started sysinstall from my running FBSD system, but that's not what I'm after here. I'm looking to learn how to install from an existing filesystem when (for example) the computer won't boot the operating system. Does that make sense? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
While humming that old rock song Yackety Yacc - Dont Awk Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] sang or SED something like this: -- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:53:38 +1000 From: Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8 To: Diomidis Spinellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2003-08-26, Diomidis Spinellis wrote: Tyler Kellen wrote: The information I'm looking to aquire is the absolute minimum files required to boot FreeBSD 4.8 into multi-user mode. If this involves deleting a massive amount of directories and files, or setting up a new drive and copying only the needed files, I think I can make it work. You can use the system the way you intent to for two weeks, and then run find / -atime +2w -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f This command will delete all files that have not been accessed within the last two weeks. And it would also remove things like find and xargs and all the other system binaries -- their atime does not get changed when they are executed. Check your facts before giving this kind of advice. And if you had an entry like this in your /etc/fstab file it could cause some suprises too. # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options DumpPass# ...[deleted - only left significant line - wjv] /dev/da0s1f /usrufs rw,noatime 2 2 This has among other things a new hierarchy and in this underpowered system I saw no need to write atimes to the inode which are probably going to be gone in two weeks anyway. atime is probably not needed in the vast majority of systems IMO. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Brian Reichert wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:26:10AM +1000, John Birrell wrote: One way to do this initially is to install a full FreeBSD system on one disk partition and use a second partition for a trial install. FreeBSD's boot manager will let you boot into each. As I'm pursuing these matters as well, I've found that mucking with jails is faster, for a lot of bulk work. Starting/stopping a jail is _much_ quicker than reboots. (And it's a lot easier to reset a jail to a prior state.) This won't exercise the rc* scripts, but will let you quickly test for dependancies elsewhere. Actually, I tend to boot my jails using the existing rc pieces -- I skip some of the hardware-esque things (network interface configuration, file system mounting), but do use the rc stuff to start daemons. And whatever you find for dependancies, please document them somewhere; I still have a fantasy of 'deconstructing' FreeBSD into finer-grained packages... One of the big problems with that process has between that people who've attempted it (perhaps rationally) get caught up in combining compartmentalization of the build and compartmentalization of the delivery. I.e., they sit there and try to figure out how to break out libraries, utilities, etc, and get caught up in building the end-all to package building infrastructure. Something a little lower-hanging would go a long way... Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Associates Laboratories ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call for thread testers
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Scott Long wrote: All, This is kind of an unconventional call for help. As we approach the release of 5.2, we'd really like to show off the performance and stability of our new threading packages. So, I'm looking for people to volunteer to go out and put some of the thread-capable enterprise and desktop packages to the test. Packages that I would most like to see are: Apache 2 BIND 9 OpenOffice Mozilla KDE desktop + Konq Java 1.3/1.4 + Tomcat/etc MySQL Others? As to OpenOffice, Mozilla, and KDE/Konqueror, David and I have been using them all with libkse with no noticable difference. I don't know how you'd judge performance with these, since it is more how it feels. You shouldn't use jdk13 with libkse or libthr since it relies on the internals of the thread library (libc_r). It is only useful to benchmark jdk14 which, in theory, should work with all our native thread libraries. The questions that I would like to have answered are: Does it take advantage of pthreads Does it work with libkse and libthr Does it operate correctly Does it perform better/worse than with libc_r Does it perform better/worse than under FreeBSD 4.x One thing I have noticed about Mozilla, is that it does create both scope process and scope system threads, which was kind of nice to see. The ACE library is threaded and includes a set of tests; some of which show performance: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html David and I have a couple of other tests which we use to measure performance of our threads libraries. -- Dan Eischen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for detailed documentation: Install toexistingfilesystem
During the installation It loads a holographic terminal on ttyv4 i think? I can't remember off hand if this is before or after the medium has started copying I'm hoping (for your sake) it is before... Anyway, that is where I mean't for you to mount the file system, it will be mounted for the duration of the installation.. Sorry for any confusion, I hope this helps? -- Cheers, Josh Sixlabs - Original Message - From: Charles Howse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Montaro' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:31 AM Subject: RE: Looking for detailed documentation: Install to existingfilesystem If you mounted ad3s1e on /disk2 and on /disk2 was freebsd/ with the distrobution files in it, I am suspecting you would be telling sysinstall to look to /disk2/freebsd rather than /dev/ad3s1e/freebsd since /dev/ad3s1e/ is just the device not the acual mounted file system. Hope this helps. With all due respect, are you sure about that? Here's why I ask... Since I booted from the CD (or I could have opted to boot from the floppies), and went through the entire install process, creating partitions and slices, the fact that I created a new mount point for /dev/ades1e on /disk2 would lead me to believe that /disk2 would not be mounted at that point, therefore the distfiles would not be available. Now, I'm sure they would be available if I had started sysinstall from my running FBSD system, but that's not what I'm after here. I'm looking to learn how to install from an existing filesystem when (for example) the computer won't boot the operating system. Does that make sense? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call for thread testers
Daniel Eischen wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Scott Long wrote: All, This is kind of an unconventional call for help. As we approach the release of 5.2, we'd really like to show off the performance and stability of our new threading packages. So, I'm looking for people to volunteer to go out and put some of the thread-capable enterprise and desktop packages to the test. Packages that I would most like to see are: Apache 2 BIND 9 OpenOffice Mozilla KDE desktop + Konq Java 1.3/1.4 + Tomcat/etc MySQL Others? As to OpenOffice, Mozilla, and KDE/Konqueror, David and I have been using them all with libkse with no noticable difference. I don't know how you'd judge performance with these, since it is more how it feels. With the desktop apps I'm mostly looking to collect data on the first three criteria, and not worry about strict performance benchmarking (assuming that the 'feel' doesn't go down the toilet). You shouldn't use jdk13 with libkse or libthr since it relies on the internals of the thread library (libc_r). It is only useful to benchmark jdk14 which, in theory, should work with all our native thread libraries. Yeah, right after I sent the email I remembered the limitation of 1.3. The questions that I would like to have answered are: Does it take advantage of pthreads Does it work with libkse and libthr Does it operate correctly Does it perform better/worse than with libc_r Does it perform better/worse than under FreeBSD 4.x One thing I have noticed about Mozilla, is that it does create both scope process and scope system threads, which was kind of nice to see. The ACE library is threaded and includes a set of tests; some of which show performance: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html David and I have a couple of other tests which we use to measure performance of our threads libraries. When it comes to performance, it would be interesting to have a report that says, Apache2 can serve FOO times more pages per second than Apache 1. Same goes for MySQL and others. We really aren't ready to benchmark against Linux or 4.x, but it would be very interesting to see whether libkse and libthr really do give a performance gain on the same OS and hardware. Scott ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bcm4400 driver and Dell 8500
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 09:27, James Nobis wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:40:25 +0100, Duncan Barclay wrote:
Hello James and Ken,
Both of you are having real problems with the bcm driver and both of you
have a Dell 8500.
This is James' dmesg output, which from memory looks very similar to your
Ken?
bcm0: Broadcom 10/100 Base-T Ethernet mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 11
at device 0.0 on pci2
bcm0: Ethernet address: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
panic: bcm0: Strange type for core 0x
Yep, the messages I get are identical when I load it as a module.
I'm running 5.1-current from august 22nd. I can try pulling down the
latest 5.1 tommorow if you think this might help. This is the same result
as when I tried the driver from over a month ago.
We think that the problem is something to do with the PCI configuration of
the machine. The ethernet address being ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff indicates that the
memory map is not right.
Before sending this email I was going to obtain a backtrace. I recompiled
with the symbol table and kernel debugger and now the driver appears to
work fine. Should it work this way?
Hmm interesting. Ken can you try this and see if the driver then works?
I've already got the kernel debugger on. Do you mean changing the module
compile somehow so that more symbols are included? (It seems to resolve
the function addresses in the module fine.)
compiling with options DDB and makeoptions DEBUG=-g is what i mean
Note, on my 5150, I also have a kernel built with -g. I do not have DDB
compiled in, but I have never tried a kernel without -g. I may be
susceptible to the same all-ffs problem.
Joe
When i just did a -g, it still would crash when i tried to load the
module. The crashes stopped entirely once I also added DDB.
-James
The stack trace from the module load is:
panic()
bcm_chip_get_core()
bcm_chip_reset()
bcm_attach()
device_probe_and_attach()
etc.
If I boot a kernel with the bcm driver compiled in, and don't attach to the
docking station, it comes up fine until I insert my fxp card in the carbus
slot. Then I get the panic in bcm_ring_rx_eof() that I reported last
night. FWIW, when I have the driver compiled in, the memory location is
identical to location used when the module loads (above), but the ethernet
address is properly decoded:
bcm0: Broadcom 10/100 Base-T Ethernet mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 11 at
device 0.0 on pci2
bcm0: Ethernet address: 00:0b:db:94:bf:42
miibus0: MII bus on bcm0
If I boot a kernel with the bcm driver compiled in, and don't attach to the
docking station, and don't insert my fxp card, I get slightly further. I
tried running dhclient, and got:
All mbufs or mbuf clusters exhausted, please see tuning(7).
bcm0: initialization failed: no memory for rx buffers
Then I tried just manually ifconfiging the interface, and it works!
Here's what netstat -m says:
{erebor:/usr/home/ken:1:0} netstat -nm
mbuf usage:
GEN cache: 0/0 (in use/in pool)
CPU #0 cache: 576/608 (in use/in pool)
Total: 576/608 (in use/in pool)
Mbuf cache high watermark: 512
Maximum possible: 34304
Allocated mbuf types:
576 mbufs allocated to data
1% of mbuf map consumed
mbuf cluster usage:
GEN cache: 0/0 (in use/in pool)
CPU #0 cache: 575/584 (in use/in pool)
Total: 575/584 (in use/in pool)
Cluster cache high watermark: 128
Maximum possible: 17152
3% of cluster map consumed
1320 KBytes of wired memory reserved (98% in use)
1 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines
Performance, once I manually assigned an address seems okay; I was able to
ftp a file over from another machine at a little over 11MB/sec.
If I insert the fxp card after the bcm driver is configured, the cardbus
initialization fails, and then I get the following messages over and over
again:
eek j=6, macCurrent 511, con288
At that point I can 't even break into the debugger.
That's all the time I have for tinkering with it this morning...
Looks like things are working somewhat better, but there is still some
weird stuff going on...
Ken
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I don't have a docking station. The built in ethernet is which uses the
bcm driver. I only have used it as a module and have not tried otherwise.
-James
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Re: bcm4400 driver and Dell 8500
On 27-Aug-2003 Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:40:25 +0100, Duncan Barclay wrote:
Hello James and Ken,
Both of you are having real problems with the bcm driver and both of you
have a Dell 8500.
This is James' dmesg output, which from memory looks very similar to your
Ken?
bcm0: Broadcom 10/100 Base-T Ethernet mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 11
at device 0.0 on pci2
bcm0: Ethernet address: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
panic: bcm0: Strange type for core 0x
Yep, the messages I get are identical when I load it as a module.
I'm running 5.1-current from august 22nd. I can try pulling down the
latest 5.1 tommorow if you think this might help. This is the same result
as when I tried the driver from over a month ago.
We think that the problem is something to do with the PCI configuration of
the machine. The ethernet address being ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff indicates that the
memory map is not right.
Before sending this email I was going to obtain a backtrace. I recompiled
with the symbol table and kernel debugger and now the driver appears to
work fine. Should it work this way?
Hmm interesting. Ken can you try this and see if the driver then works?
I've already got the kernel debugger on. Do you mean changing the module
compile somehow so that more symbols are included? (It seems to resolve
the function addresses in the module fine.)
The stack trace from the module load is:
panic()
bcm_chip_get_core()
bcm_chip_reset()
bcm_attach()
device_probe_and_attach()
etc.
If I boot a kernel with the bcm driver compiled in, and don't attach to the
docking station, it comes up fine until I insert my fxp card in the carbus
slot. Then I get the panic in bcm_ring_rx_eof() that I reported last
night. FWIW, when I have the driver compiled in, the memory location is
identical to location used when the module loads (above), but the ethernet
address is properly decoded:
This is still smelling of memory stuff outside of my experience.
bcm0: Broadcom 10/100 Base-T Ethernet mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaff irq 11 at
device 0.0 on pci2
bcm0: Ethernet address: 00:0b:db:94:bf:42
miibus0: MII bus on bcm0
If I boot a kernel with the bcm driver compiled in, and don't attach to the
docking station, and don't insert my fxp card, I get slightly further. I
tried running dhclient, and got:
All mbufs or mbuf clusters exhausted, please see tuning(7).
bcm0: initialization failed: no memory for rx buffers
Just checked dhclient and it works fine for me.
Then I tried just manually ifconfiging the interface, and it works!
Here's what netstat -m says:
{erebor:/usr/home/ken:1:0} netstat -nm
mbuf usage:
GEN cache: 0/0 (in use/in pool)
CPU #0 cache: 576/608 (in use/in pool)
Total: 576/608 (in use/in pool)
Mbuf cache high watermark: 512
Maximum possible: 34304
Allocated mbuf types:
576 mbufs allocated to data
1% of mbuf map consumed
mbuf cluster usage:
GEN cache: 0/0 (in use/in pool)
CPU #0 cache: 575/584 (in use/in pool)
Total: 575/584 (in use/in pool)
Cluster cache high watermark: 128
Maximum possible: 17152
3% of cluster map consumed
1320 KBytes of wired memory reserved (98% in use)
1 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines
Performance, once I manually assigned an address seems okay; I was able to
ftp a file over from another machine at a little over 11MB/sec.
Cool, thats about right.
If I insert the fxp card after the bcm driver is configured, the cardbus
initialization fails, and then I get the following messages over and over
again:
eek j=6, macCurrent 511, con288
This is a little loop that waits for the card to finish DMAing a packet. There
should be a DELAY(1) in there. But it may be commented out.
Do we think that cardbus is trashing the memory space somehow?
At that point I can 't even break into the debugger.
That's all the time I have for tinkering with it this morning...
Looks like things are working somewhat better, but there is still some
weird stuff going on...
Ken
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Re: Call for thread testers
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:05:28AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: All, This is kind of an unconventional call for help. As we approach the release of 5.2, we'd really like to show off the performance and stability of our new threading packages. So, I'm looking for people to volunteer to go out and put some of the thread-capable enterprise and desktop packages to the test. Packages that I would most like to see are: Apache 2 BIND 9 OpenOffice Mozilla KDE desktop + Konq Java 1.3/1.4 + Tomcat/etc MySQL Others? I've found that privoxy is a good program to test threads. It does alot of network io too. ports/www/privoxy. Just point your web browser to use it. The questions that I would like to have answered are: Does it take advantage of pthreads Yes. Does it work with libkse and libthr Sort of. Does it operate correctly libthr: tends to segfault (sig11). Occasional DNS resolution issues. libkse: tends to segfault (sig11), I've gotten my box to crash once too (BAD!). ^C still doesn't kill the process. Occasional DNS resolution issues. Here's the output from the console: Aug 27 10:22:41 Privoxy(134991872) Request: images.slashdot.org/greendot.gif Aug 27 10:22:41 Privoxy(134979584) Request: images.slashdot.org/pix.gif Aug 27 10:22:46 Privoxy(135041024) Error: could not resolve hostname images.slashdot.org --- This is bad, I have no problems resolving this normally. ^CAug 27 10:22:56 Privoxy(135163904) Info: exiting by signal 2 .. bye ^CAug 27 10:23:35 Privoxy(135151616) Info: exiting by signal 2 .. bye ^CAug 27 10:23:35 Privoxy(135110656) Info: exiting by signal 2 .. bye ^CAug 27 10:23:36 Privoxy(135065600) Info: exiting by signal 2 .. bye ^CAug 27 10:23:36 Privoxy(135053312) Info: exiting by signal 2 .. bye ^CAug 27 10:23:36 Privoxy(134742016) Info: exiting by signal 2 .. bye ^^^--- I guess I killed the individual threads. ^C^C^C ^C^C^C ^C^C^C ^^^--- Nothing left to kill? load: 0.35 cmd: privoxy 1257 [KSE] 0.06u 0.09s 0% 3424k ^^^--- I hit ^T here. Does it perform better/worse than with libc_r When it worked, it worked better under thr and kse. Does it perform better/worse than under FreeBSD 4.x ENOTTESTED In short, we aren't there yet. -gordon pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, John Birrell wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:28:14PM -0500, Tyler Kellen wrote: What I'd really like to know is how to strip down a working system. If ... One way to do this initially is to install a full FreeBSD system on one disk partition and use a second partition for a trial install. FreeBSD's Netbooting with PXE might make this particularly painless (painless after setup - getting pxe boots working is another issue...) man diskless for more information about this -- you can then take your diskless image that you boot and trim _it_ down and repeatedly reboot and have an easy way to put things back (ie you mv them out and back in if you found them necessary). This of course requires 2 machines for development rather than one, but it is fairly convienient. -- Fred Clift - fclift at verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call for thread testers
[moving to -threads] This is kind of an unconventional call for help. As we approach the release of 5.2, we'd really like to show off the performance and stability of our new threading packages. So, I'm looking for people to volunteer to go out and put some of the thread-capable enterprise and desktop packages to the test. Packages that I would most like to see are: Apache 2 BIND 9 OpenOffice Mozilla KDE desktop + Konq Java 1.3/1.4 + Tomcat/etc MySQL Others? The questions that I would like to have answered are: Does it take advantage of pthreads Does it work with libkse and libthr Does it operate correctly Does it perform better/worse than with libc_r Does it perform better/worse than under FreeBSD 4.x What's the current status of KSE? Is the project page (http://www.FreeBSD.org/kse/) considered up to date by the KSE developers? Are the remaining bits for KSE either bug related or dealing with ARCH != x86? Are there any remaining/outstanding gotchas/bugs on the radar/problems that the KSE developers are aware of? I've heard that the konsole bug has been fixed and there's a patch floating around to fix the SIGABRTs for that program (was my biggest gripe last time I tested libkse). Just trying to figure out what my expectations should be with regards to testing at this point. Is KSE to the point that it's ready for performance testing or is stability still a concern? tia, -sc -- Sean Chittenden ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 17:32, Robert Watson wrote: As has been mentioned, the FreeBSD source tree as shipped isn't configured for minimization without a fair amount of effort. However, there are a Hi all, we are developing a small set of scripts that are based on minibsd (http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html) . If you want to try they try to build a small about 10-12M FreeBSD env suitable to be flashed on some embedded system. It should work both on 4.x and 5.x branch as well. The work is still in progress and we think to assimilate later (when it will be finished) in the freesbie project (www.freebsdie.org) . Btw also in this first stage of development it is full suitable to build a small, compact, customizable FreeBSD minidsitrib. I attach all the scripts here... If you want to modify something please check the config.sh file. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Minimalist FreeBSD 4.8
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 23:26, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: [...] It should work both on 4.x and 5.x branch as well. The work is still in progress and we think to assimilate later (when it will be finished) in the freesbie project (www.freebsdie.org) . Btw also in this first stage of development it is full suitable to build a small, compact, customizable FreeBSD minidsitrib. I attach all the scripts here... If you want to modify something please check the config.sh file. Ooops seems the attach is went lost: here is the link :-) http://www.gufi.org/~gmarco/files/miniBSD.tgz (ca 15kb) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
