Re: PCI Express graphics reliability/functionality in 6.1?

2006-06-09 Thread Rink Springer
I can't find anything specific about PCI Express in the 6.1 release
  notes.  However, I have Googled up some reports of various PCI-E
  graphic cards working badly in Xorg under FreeBSD and other open source
  OSes.  In general should PCI Express graphics cards work properly and
  perform reasonably well for Xorg and OpenGL graphics under FreeBSD, if
  I avoid the touchier nVidia cards, or do I need to stick with AGP for
  reliability?

I have a GeForce 6800GS PCIe x16 card, which has been rock-solid so far
(I had to use the Nvidia drivers from ports, the 'nv' driver only gives
me a messed up text console...). This is on a dual opteron 2x 846 on a
Tyan Thunder K8SE motherboard.

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Re: help:Makefile template for device drivers with multiple directories

2006-06-09 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Friday 09 June 2006 04:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My problem seems to be very special. My driver module is a single one, but
 I want to build only one object for each directory (such as osd.o: osd/*.c;
 engine.o: engine/*.c; cam.o:cam/*.c). And my driver module (such as
 Shasta.ko) is constructed only by osd.o, engine.o and cam.o. I need to do
 this because we want each component (engine, cam, and osd) more
 independent. Otherwise, I have to consider the issues such as naming
 conflicts and so on. Is it possible to do so under FreeBSD?


You mean object naming conflicts or symbol naming conflicts?

If you have symbol naming conflicts, then you have to rename the 
functions/procedures. Else it won't be possible to link the module.

If you have object naming conflicts, then I think you either have to rename 
the file names, or make a customized Makefile. It is the same in the FreeBSD 
kernel. All object files have different names.

Maybe something similar to the following will do:

SRCS+= osd.o engine.o

osd.o:
 ${CC} -o osd.o ${.CURDIR}/osd/*.c

engine.o:
 ${CC} -o engine.o ${.CURDIR}/engine/*.c

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How to disable a src.conf on command-line

2006-06-09 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Hi list !

I wonder what's the trick to enable (resp. disable) a feature that has
been switched with a WITH_FOO/WITHOUT_FOO knob in src.conf(5) or
make.conf(5).

I can't find one myself because bsd.own.mk only check if the knob is
defined, it doesn't care of its value.  Furthermore it is an error to
define both WITH_FOO and WITHOUT_FOO.

My thought on this is WITH_FOO/WITHOUT_FOO knob are to be used for
software inclusion/exclusion in the base system, but not to
enable/disable compilation flags, since you can't disable it without
editing src.conf(5).

(My concern is about activation of stack-smashing protection compiler
options.  I'd like the user to be able to use -DWITHOUT_SSP to
compile something, even if he has WITH_SSP=YES in src.conf(5).
Should I turn the name of this options into ENABLE_SSP and pull it
out the bsd.own.mk magic ?)

Thank you.i
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Re: working with PCI config registers (extensively)

2006-06-09 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 09/06/2006 08:35 M. Warner Losh said the following:
 In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Andriy Gapon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 : 
 : I am writing a driver for some PCI hardware that does not have any IO
 : ports or IO memory (and thus does not have any useful BARs), but rather
 : it is controlled and communicated with by writes and reads of certain
 : vendor-specific PCI configuration registers.
[snip]
 The PCI bus will write to the standard TYPE 0 headers of a device on
 the pci bus to manage it.  All other configuration registers are the
 responsibility of the driver.  The driver can also access the
 registers that the pci bus manages, but care must be taken.  Sounds
 like there'd be no conflict for you.

Warner,

thank you. There is another peculiarity in my driver - it actually works
with PCI configuration space of a HW device that is owned by other
driver/bus, hostb actually. That is, I discover my device using
pci_find_bsf().
But I think that there should be no problem as the registers that my
driver uses should be of no interest to hostb.

P.S. here is more information and link to the source code of my driver:
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=188288+0+current/freebsd-acpi

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Re: How to disable a src.conf on command-line

2006-06-09 Thread M. Warner Losh
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Jeremie Le Hen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: (My concern is about activation of stack-smashing protection compiler
: options.  I'd like the user to be able to use -DWITHOUT_SSP to
: compile something, even if he has WITH_SSP=YES in src.conf(5).
: Should I turn the name of this options into ENABLE_SSP and pull it
: out the bsd.own.mk magic ?)

First, there's the trick:
make -V MK_FOO
if you are unsure of the results.

For make options that default to enabled, turning them off in one
place (command line or src.conf) will turn them off.  Likewise for
on.

So if you make WITH_SSP off by default, then having WITH_SSP in the
src.conf can't be overridden.  If you have it on by default, having
WITHOUT_SSP in the src.conf file can't be overriden.  this appears to
be an unintended flaw with the with/without stuff.  I'm not sure the
right way to compensate.

Finally, please don't invent another way to configure the system.
Many code reviewers will not like you much for doing that, since we've
recently worked hard to make them all regular.  If you need to do
something the current scheme doesn't allow, we need to expand the
current scheme somehow.

Warner
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in-flight timer(s) recalibration

2006-06-09 Thread Andriy Gapon

In-flight timer(s) recalibration - is it a good idea ? How to do it ?

This question comes from the following: in 6.1 we use LAPIC timer even
on UP systems; in scenarios where FSB frequency can be changed on the
fly (this is not hypothetical) that results in bad time-keeping as LAPIC
timer frequency is derived from FSB frequency. I'd like to be able to do
something like what lapic_setup_clock() does, but through a proper
interface and probably at smaller cost (I mean 2 second DELAY).
I think that my need is pretty much LAPIC-timer centered because TSC
should not be used in my case anyway and i8254 is mutually exclusive
with LAPIC (at present, I think) and it is not affected by FSB frequency
(is it?).

BTW, maybe I will talk utter nonsense now, but is it possible to
self-tune timer interrupt frequency by checking time elapsed between
interrupts using the best available (or currently selected) timecounter ?


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Re: How to disable a src.conf on command-line

2006-06-09 Thread Darren Pilgrim

M. Warner Losh wrote:

So if you make WITH_SSP off by default, then having WITH_SSP in the
src.conf can't be overridden.  If you have it on by default, having
WITHOUT_SSP in the src.conf file can't be overriden.  this appears to
be an unintended flaw with the with/without stuff.  I'm not sure the
right way to compensate.


I can't speak for the right way, but if you specify the variable in
src.conf/make.conf with ?= instead of =, you can override it on the
command-line:

# grep KERNCONF /etc/make.conf
KERNCONF?=TTPWEB
# make -V KERNCONF
TTPWEB
# env KERNCONF=SOMETHING_ELSE make -V KERNCONF
SOMETHING_ELSE

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Re: How to disable a src.conf on command-line

2006-06-09 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Darren Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  So if you make WITH_SSP off by default, then having WITH_SSP in the
:  src.conf can't be overridden.  If you have it on by default, having
:  WITHOUT_SSP in the src.conf file can't be overriden.  this appears to
:  be an unintended flaw with the with/without stuff.  I'm not sure the
:  right way to compensate.
: 
: I can't speak for the right way, but if you specify the variable in 
: src.conf/make.conf with ?= instead of =, you can override it on the 
: command-line:
: 
: # grep KERNCONF /etc/make.conf
: KERNCONF?=TTPWEB
: # make -V KERNCONF
: TTPWEB
: # env KERNCONF=SOMETHING_ELSE make -V KERNCONF
: SOMETHING_ELSE

?= doesn't mesh well with WITH/WITHOUT because then it will always be
defined, thus defeating its purpose.

Warner
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Re: How to disable a src.conf on command-line

2006-06-09 Thread Darren Pilgrim

M. Warner Losh wrote:

In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Darren Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  So if you make WITH_SSP off by default, then having WITH_SSP in the
:  src.conf can't be overridden.  If you have it on by default, having
:  WITHOUT_SSP in the src.conf file can't be overriden.  this appears to
:  be an unintended flaw with the with/without stuff.  I'm not sure the
:  right way to compensate.
: 
: I can't speak for the right way, but if you specify the variable in 
: src.conf/make.conf with ?= instead of =, you can override it on the 
: command-line:
: 
: # grep KERNCONF /etc/make.conf

: KERNCONF?=TTPWEB
: # make -V KERNCONF
: TTPWEB
: # env KERNCONF=SOMETHING_ELSE make -V KERNCONF
: SOMETHING_ELSE

?= doesn't mesh well with WITH/WITHOUT because then it will always be
defined, thus defeating its purpose.


Use .ifndef to define WITH/WITHOUT iff its counterpart is undef:

.ifndef WITHOUT_FOO
WITH_FOO=def
.endif

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