Re: [UPDATE] host-setup(1): a dialog(1)-based utility for configuring FreeBSD
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:52:44 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Looks like `--hline' is not supported anymore. Thinking this should either be patched or documented in ERRATA/UPGRADING. I think you mean UPDATING :) -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [UPDATE] host-setup(1): a dialog(1)-based utility for configuring FreeBSD
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 08:54:51AM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:52:44 -0700 Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote: Looks like `--hline' is not supported anymore. Thinking this should either be patched or documented in ERRATA/UPGRADING. I think you mean UPDATING :) perhaps. But reporting bugs is nicer than long discussion threads. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgp9H9Hlo9DqO.pgp Description: PGP signature
scd and mcd
While we're talking about recent MFC's for SATA hardware (works for me, but I still need the old ata drivers for my cdrom), is anyone out there really still using the mcd (fbsd 1.0 vintage) and scd (2.0.5) drivers? ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: scd and mcd
On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Lankford wrote: While we're talking about recent MFC's for SATA hardware (works for me, but I still need the old ata drivers for my cdrom), is anyone out there really still using the mcd (fbsd 1.0 vintage) and scd (2.0.5) drivers? mcd and scd are ISA-only devices. ISA expansion bus only. ISA slots disappeared off Mobos about 4 years ago entirely. PATA/IDE connectors have been built into mobos for the past 15ish years. They were important for the 386 (now not supported) and 486 machines. Since the 486 machines in question maxed out at 32MB, and 8.x has trouble running in 32MB on x86, I'm guessing there aren't too many 486 SX/DX machines running 8.x. Therefore, I'd bet money that neither mcd nor scd have attached on any machine running 8.x :) Warner ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: scd and mcd
Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: mcd and scd are ISA-only devices ... They were important for the 386 (now not supported) and 486 machines. Since the 486 machines in question maxed out at 32MB, and 8.x has trouble running in 32MB on x86, I'm guessing there aren't too many 486 SX/DX machines running 8.x. 486 were the last for which ISA was the primary bus, but ISA was still present (bridged from PCI) on most Pentium systems and common at least as recently as Pentium-II. (I don't have a disassembled P-III handy to check whether it has an ISA slot.) ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: scd and mcd
On Apr 23, 2011, at 5:19 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: mcd and scd are ISA-only devices ... They were important for the 386 (now not supported) and 486 machines. Since the 486 machines in question maxed out at 32MB, and 8.x has trouble running in 32MB on x86, I'm guessing there aren't too many 486 SX/DX machines running 8.x. 486 were the last for which ISA was the primary bus, but ISA was still present (bridged from PCI) on most Pentium systems and common at least as recently as Pentium-II. (I don't have a disassembled P-III handy to check whether it has an ISA slot.) Most Pentium II and newer systems had IDE connectors on the motherboard. Many of the Pentium I ones did too. Only if you didn't have IDE connectors on mobo would you be likely to consider one of these CD's. Also, I think they topped out at 4x or 8x speed since they had a custom interface. Warner ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: Re: scd and mcd
My last desktop machine had an ASUS Pentium-3 (no ISA slots), USB1 only. It has outlived the original hard drive, CDROM, and power supply, but I think it makes more sense these days to throw these systems out rather than future-proof them, especially if a fanless SoC could be less power-hungry and noisy. It seems to me that people who want to get more life out 10yr old hardware need to be part of some sort of trimmed down LegacyBSD project that caters to their special needs. You all know more than I do about the orgs that are following the stable-6 or stable-7 branches, but are they using ancient CDROMS with a limited life span? Original Message From: - Sat Apr 23 19:53:48 2011 X-Account-Key: account2 X-UIDL: a3d64dc0-58c3-451b-b85f-0072bb069...@bsdimp.com X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path:i...@bsdimp.com Received: from imp04 ([10.20.200.4]) by mta52.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id 20110423234226.QAAM13475.mta52.charter.net@imp04 for lankfordand...@charter.net; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:42:26 -0400 Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com ([199.45.160.85]) by imp04 with charter.net id bBiR1g01x1qqkgf04BiSRj; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:42:26 -0400 X-Chzlrs: ?? X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ACdvlZsxPtp6/8rt9ATxQxe5eelQ5vQqaf1LwcbVAy0= c=1 sm=1 a=Ucbx8mQ_rlYA:10 a=MV1VDysopeJvYeH43xkbGw==:17 a=GKysJfYJ:8 a=7Qk2ozbK:8 a=VHkpZ49OhpeKkUvcBWkA:9 a=ABrYPtnIPbQqMp5bbigA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cvZW9r6VXHAA:10 a=aNaW_GFDrTlh0hGR9xgA:9 a=P0Ne2a3NTbHX3BCDdCkA:7 a=MV1VDysopeJvYeH43xkbGw==:117 Received: from [10.0.0.63] (63.imp.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p3NNbvwt006040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:37:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from i...@bsdimp.com) Subject:Re: scd and mcd Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-1024646444 From: Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com In-Reply-To:4db35e8a.r5ldmfg8cygirbff%per...@pluto.rain.com Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:37:57 -0600 Cc: hack...@freebsd.org, lankfordand...@charter.net Message-Id: a3d64dc0-58c3-451b-b85f-0072bb069...@bsdimp.com References: 4db3142a.4000...@charter.net 1e3f5b85-5a1a-4118-a9d8-932f46619...@bsdimp.com 4db35e8a.r5ldmfg8cygirbff%per...@pluto.rain.com To: per...@pluto.rain.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:37:59 -0600 (MDT) On Apr 23, 2011, at 5:19 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Warner Loshi...@bsdimp.com wrote: mcd and scd are ISA-only devices ... They were important for the 386 (now not supported) and 486 machines. Since the 486 machines in question maxed out at 32MB, and 8.x has trouble running in 32MB on x86, I'm guessing there aren't too many 486 SX/DX machines running 8.x. 486 were the last for which ISA was the primary bus, but ISA was still present (bridged from PCI) on most Pentium systems and common at least as recently as Pentium-II. (I don't have a disassembled P-III handy to check whether it has an ISA slot.) Most Pentium II and newer systems had IDE connectors on the motherboard. Many of the Pentium I ones did too. Only if you didn't have IDE connectors on mobo would you be likely to consider one of these CD's. Also, I think they topped out at 4x or 8x speed since they had a custom interface. Warner ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
