Re: Laptop suggestions?
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 21:45 -0300, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Achim Patzner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 30.07.2008 um 18:40 schrieb Dag-Erling Smørgrav: I don't understand what Macs have to do with this - we're talking about iX Systems's made-for-BSD laptop. The thread started with someone asking for a mobile computer that would support FreeBSD sufficiently and nobody came up with something fitting the bill (and being available somewhere). Considering the picture you're seeing at any place where more than two hardcore Unix users assemble you're seeing a majority of Macs. There has to be an obvious reason for that... I tried to break that habit more than once but right now the only comfortable way of running FreeBSD on a laptop is VMware Fusion on a Mac. Reading this entire thread convinced me even more. Please define comfortable. I've been running FreeBSD 7.0 pretty comfortably on my HP nx6320 for several months now. I never attempted to use neither Bluetooth nor the fingerprint reader, so I don't miss I am sure this is not intentional, but a lot of the responses in this thread mention not using Bluetooth. If only to make sure that people are not led to believe that Bluetooth support in FreeBSD is lacking, I would like to mention that I have been using it for a long while with Apple Keyboard (something Windows incarnation of the same laptop is not capable of), Logitech V570(?) mouse, Palms E2 and TX (former NAT'd out to the network through FreeBSD host) and the string of Motorola phones for moving pictures, sounds and Java applications back and forth using OBEX. And, just to throw out some other definition of the comfortable -- I find my ThinkPad X61 (12 diagonally, 4.5lbs) much more comfortable to carry around than my iBook G4 or the smallest of the MacBooks being sold today. I guess, comfortable is on the lap of the beholder ;) -- Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко) ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop suggestions?
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:39 +0800, Zamri Besar wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Frank Mayhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My old Dell Inspiron 5160 has developed problems that I can't fix, sigh, so it's time to replace it. I'm hoping for some good suggestions from this list (cc'd to hackers for the exposure, I know everyone doesn't read -mobile). My criteria: * 3D acceleration. * MiniPCI wireless (don't care which card, I'll replace it anyway). * At least 15 screen. * Decent power consumption. * Plays well with FreeBSD 7-stable. Nice to have: * Dual core. * 4GB memory. * Working suspend/hibernate mode (and no, I'm not holding my breath). So, suggestions? BTW, if I get a decent response I'll summarize it for the list, along with the one I chose and my experience after ordering/installing it. If cost is not a big problem, then IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad Series (I prefer T-series) is the best from my past experiences. And you may check following As someone who used (and use) 360, 701C, T30, T42p, X60 and T61p, I wholeheartedly agree with past experiences... with past being a key word. While I could not complain about FreeBSD support (none of the FreeBSD problems I have are ThinkPad-specific), manufacturing quality has gone down considerably. My not-two-years-old X60 chipped in places and my wife's 8-months-old T61p is no longer capable of keeping the screen upright. This is in the stark contrast with T42p I (ab)used for $work for more than three years, with the only visible outcome being loss of the caption on the Enter key. Battery on my X60 died few weeks past 1-year warranty ;-( Just 2c worth of the data points. -- Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко) ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [patch] enhance powerd(8) to handle max temperature
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 22:13 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alexandre \Sunny\ Kovalenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 10:08 -0700, Nate Lawson wrote:
: M. Warner Losh wrote:
: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Nate Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: : Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:
: : On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:31:33 +0200
: : Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
: : gahr My patch is really just a first draft that I wrote in order
to have
: : gahr feedbacks on the general idea to implement a temperature
controlling
: : gahr system inside powerd, and doesn't implement hysteresis as you
noted, and
: : gahr your feedback is that it's not a good idea, which I respect.
: :
: : It is rather backward, IMHO. I did implement a passive cooling
: : feature as an enhancement of powerd(8) like you did, during initial
: : phases. Then, I implemented it in our kernel as a result.
: :
: : I'll take a look at your patch. Umemoto-san is right in that you
really
: : want the kernel to control cooling. What happens if powerd dies/hangs
: : and your system burns up? Passive cooling is often a last resort to
: : keep the system from overheating.
:
: I keep getting the system shutting down on my HP by FreeBSD because
: the temperature exceeds the _CRT value. Maybe there's something wrong
: with my values, since it happens a lot:
:
: hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
: hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
: hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 0.0C
: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 90.0C
: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 94.0C
: hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 40.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
:
: Note: temperature is always 0.0C.
:
: What can I do to help my situation, if I really want the kernel doing
: the cooling?
:
: Your embedded controller is timing out. Thus you're getting a bogus
: value for _TMP.
: I have sort of picked up this thread in the middle... was it determined
: that EC is timing out? The reason for asking is -- I used to have a
: laptop where _TMP would just read value from the memory location, which
: was never populated anywhere else in ASL. Call to _PSV method would go
: figure current temperature and start fan, if necessary. Ugly...
:
: Dumping ASL (using instructions from handbook) and looking for something
: like
:
: Method (_TMP, 0, NotSerialized)
:
: might be a real eye opener.
:
: If you would like me to take a look at your ASL, send it to me privately
: -- I've only done it for one laptop, so no claims of the great skill
: there, but maybe it is as simple as the other one ;)
It just dawned on me that I have hit Reply, not Reply All previously,
which has likely caused my reply to be buried somewhere in the bowels of
your SPAM filtering software. So, here it goes again:
Method (_TMP, 0, NotSerialized)
{
If (\_SB.PCI0.LPC0.ECOK ())
{
Multiply (\_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.THEM, 0x0A, Local0)
Add (Local0, 0x0AAC, Local0)
Return (Local0)
}
Return (DTMP)
}
Could you, please, change
Return(DTMP)
in the snippet above to
Return(0x0B10)
compile your ASL, overwrite it on boot and let me know what temperature
reading is -- it either will stay at 0.0C or at 10.0C, which is not at
all useful for day-to-day operation but will tell me which code path has
been taken.
Also, please, either send me *all* of your ASL or put it up somewhere
for download.
--
Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko
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