Re: [Fwd: colisions!]
You're wired fine. You're seeing collisions because it's half duplex. To avoid collisions you need a full duplex segment, otherwise the router and etinc talking at the same time will lead to a collision. This is normal and is not cause for concern. Marcelo Leal wrote: i have the follow problem: i use etinc in one FreeBSD box (4.2). it works fine. this freebsd make bridge (one interface in switch), and another cross over to router. in the conection to router, there are one colision led, that are almost always up! i did put one rule for bridge only ip in rl0 (switch interface). why there are colisions betwen etinc and router??? the etinc interface are 10Mbps (half-duplex) and router too. the cross over is: etinc 12 orange/white 3 6 blue/white router 1 2 blue/white 3 6 orange/white thanks ___ The ISP-WIRELESS Discussion List ___ To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-wireless/archives/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland Northwestern '04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/~laurence The world has turned and left me here To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Should URL's be pervasive.
Optimally, you could write a urlsh or something, and leave everyone else alone. The shell could do substitutions on URLs just like they do on wildcards etc, and the applications would not need to be rewritten, plus you wouldn't add bloat to those of us who don't want this in the system... Laurence On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Keith Stevenson wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:10:18AM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: I ran into a pair of all too common annoyances this morning that got me thinking. Via the magic of cut and paste I ended up with the following two sorts of command lines: mutt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] traceroute http://www.ufp.org/ These of course come from the 'copy link location' available in most browsers. When pasted into most Unix commands (with the exception of fetch and lynx, of course) the result is something that just doesn't work. This got me thinking, should all commands know how to take an URL, and 'do the right thing'? Could this be made easy by providing a standard URL parsing library that all commands could use for parsing? Ick. If I wanted this kind of integration I would run Windows, KDE, or GNOME instead of my nice, stable, predictable, lightweight desktop environment. In my opinion, the URLification of the user environment would be a negative unless there were a very easy way to turn it completely off. Regards, --Keith Stevenson-- -- Keith Stevenson System Programmer - Data Center Services - University of Louisville [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key fingerprint = 332D 97F0 6321 F00F 8EE7 2D44 00D8 F384 75BB 89AE To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message Laurence Berland http://www.isp.northwestern.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: your mail
From now on, please use the test@ email list for testing. None of us care if your Mail:: module works On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Charlie Root wrote: Subject: Mail::Internet test subject This is a test message that was sent by the test suite of Mail::Internet. Testing. one From foo four From bar seven To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message Laurence Berland http://www.isp.northwestern.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: [OT] POLA? (was Re: Default retry behaviour for mount_nfs)
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: I'll leave it up to you all to imagine what 'wtf WTF' is. We all know it stands for what's that for?... :) Laurence Berland http://www.isp.northwestern.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Rasputin wrote: I may be low on caffeine, but I don't see how breaking up the base system into packages makes it any easier to upgrade than using cvsup? I think the discussion is Re: binary upgrades, like putting in the CD and hitting that upgrade option, which right now doesn't quite get you there afaik. Id have thought it would require more work to upgrade under some system similar to the ports tree (at least that's my experience) But like I said, I've probably misread this post. I thought the OP was referring to X in particular, and since that's upgraded via ports anyway, it does seem a good candidate to be installed by pkg_add (it's quite confusing for newbies to pkg_info | grep XFree and have it return nothing, especially when you're sat in Enlightenment...) L: http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/~laurence To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Wes Peters wrote: Laurence Berland wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Rasputin wrote: I may be low on caffeine, but I don't see how breaking up the base system into packages makes it any easier to upgrade than using cvsup? I think the discussion is Re: binary upgrades, like putting in the CD and hitting that upgrade option, which right now doesn't quite get you there afaik. I don't think the goal was to make the system easier to upgrade, but rather easier to subset. Do we really NEED to have sendmail on every DNS server we put together? Also very true. But in the context of upgrades, which is what Rasputin was coming from, it's a binary upgrade issue, not a source one, which is why cvsup isn't a fair comparison. I definitely think it'd be nice to have things like sendmail somewhat more separate. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters Softweyr LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD in good standing in netcraft survey
Just curious, since I can't find the info on the site...what method is being used to determine uptimes on these systems? How can I turn reporting on in FreeBSD? L Jonathan Perkin wrote: phk wrote: We're doing quite fine in the "max uptime" survey: http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/isp.max.html Glad you like it - pity we got slashdotted so early :) Although the uptime survey's are new on the site, they have quite a large database to gather from, and will get better as more people use the whats queries. Be nice when freefall has enough data to plot a graph for :) -- Jonathan Perkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: +44 (01225) 404422 ech`echo xiun | tr nu oc | sed 'sx\([sx]\)\([xoi]\)xo un\2\1 is xg'`ol System Administrator - Netcraft, Bath, UK - http://www.netcraft.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland Intern, Flooz.com Northwestern '04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Starting to code
Wes Peters wrote: Laurence Berland wrote: What's a good place to start if you're a university student with limited hardware who wants to jump in and get going with the FreeBSD code. Right now I've got a PPro 200 with 32 MB of ram and lots of disk space (~50 gigs). 10 gigs or so is used by FreeBSD-Stable. I'm thinking of tossing Current on also, and maybe making the cvs repo a separate partition so I can share it between current and stable. I love it when people call a PPro 200 with 32 MB "limited hardware". My first Free/NetBSD machine was a 386/40 with 8MB RAM and a 340 MB disk, and it was state of the art except for lack of a CD-ROM drive. I thought it was more than fast enough, and for most things it is, but KDE manages to crawl nonetheless... -- Laurence Berland Intern, Flooz.com Northwestern '04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Starting to code
What's a good place to start if you're a university student with limited hardware who wants to jump in and get going with the FreeBSD code. Right now I've got a PPro 200 with 32 MB of ram and lots of disk space (~50 gigs). 10 gigs or so is used by FreeBSD-Stable. I'm thinking of tossing Current on also, and maybe making the cvs repo a separate partition so I can share it between current and stable. Mostly at this point I'm looking for a way to jump head first into the code. Where's a good starting point? tia, -- Laurence Berland Intern, Flooz.com Northwestern '04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Routing issues
Gregory Sutter wrote: I'm setting up a network that looks like this: --InternetRouter---Firewall | | /--- host SwitchNAT-- host | \- host |\- etc... - | | email ns In other words, a fairly typical small network. I've got an 8-IP subnet; all hosts outside the NAT have real IPs: router: 1.2.3.193 firewall: 1.2.3.196 fxp0 1.2.3.197 fxp1 nat: 1.2.3.198 email:1.2.3.194 ns: 1.2.3.195 The problem I'm having is with my routing. Surprise. Here is the routing table for the firewall: default 1.2.3.193 fxp0 1.2.3.193 link#1 fxp0 1.2.3.192/29link#2 fxp1 1.2.3.196 lo0 1.2.3.197 lo0 Now my network engineering is far from perfect (anyone have a network engineering intership for summer 2001? I do sysadmin and a little coding also...:) but it looks like the problem is that if the firewall is acting as a router (as opposed to a bridge, you don't say) then it will be seeing both its interfaces plus the router as being in the 1.2.3.192/29 subnet and is thus sending everything to fxp1. Or maybe I'm just nuts... The gateway_enable (net.inet.ip.forwarding) is also enabled on the firewall. From the firewall, I can reach any host with no problems. However, from hosts inside the firewall, I cannot reach outside, and vice versa. I feel I must be missing something obvious, but have played with routes for hours to no avail. Can you reach the router from the firewall? I say this because the default of fxp0 will let you get things off your net, but the router may be another story... Does anyone see a problem with the routing of this network? Greg -- Gregory S. SutterComputing is a terminal addiction. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland Intern, Flooz.com Northwestern '04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
God I feel stupid (gcc issue)
I've been going through the PR database, thinking maybe it was my turn to do something for FreeBSD. I looked at pr bin/2036. Problem? long isn't big enough to count all the bytes we could hold. So I look in the code and find /* Total number of bytes read and written for all files. Now that many tape drives hold more than 4Gb we need more than 32 bits to hold input_bytes and output_bytes. But it's not worth the trouble of adding special multi-precision arithmetic if the compiler doesn't support 64 bit ints since input_bytes and output_bytes are only used to print the number of blocks copied. */ #ifdef __GNUC__ long long input_bytes, output_bytes; #else long input_bytes, output_bytes; #endif in global.c So I thought, "we don't define __GNUC__?" I figured I'd check. After much mind wracking, I can't for the life of me figure out how to get gcc to output a list of what is and isnt defined by default... help! -- Laurence Berland Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: need help
1. Put more descriptive subjects, it'll help people with less time locate the questions they can and/or want to answer. 2. Try one of these: -get a new /var with more space -use vinum so you can add more hds to add space -make one of the larger directories on /var a symlink to somewhere that has free space -delete some stuff in /var (old logs you no longer need etc.) There are of course other ways to fix this, but these come to mind off the top of my head. Hope I could help, Laurence Mourad Lakhdar wrote: hi every body: when i change in the kernel , i config it , made : make depend while doing make i got the error : /var : write failed , file system is full cpp: /var/tmp/ccT1684.i:No space left on device error code 1 stop so what should i do best regards, To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 2000 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: My views on Eclipse/BSD
Most licenses aren't all that enforceable. I was speaking with a lawyer friend who theorized that if the person accepting the license was under 18 (in the US at least) then they could do whatever they want with it. Solution? Have someone download it for you...I'm only 17, anybody want unencumbered code? :) Ed Hall wrote: One can argue that such prohibitions are unenforcible, or that Lucent isn't likely to attempt to enforce them. And my read of the situation is that this is probably the case. This time. But I, for one, would rather the moral ambiguity be removed, not passed over. -Ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message PS: No, I wont actually send you the code, I'm kidding. -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 2000 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: My views on Eclipse/BSD
Well the idea is that someone under 18 in the US can't legally be party to a contract, so the contract becomes null and void even if I agree to it. There's lots of legal precedent on this. It may not be this way in other countries (I take it Australia is different). So if we get stuck with evil shrink wrap licenses, I could charge ppl five dollars to unwrap and unseal software for them or something. This certainly isn't something I would do, but I'm talking theory. There was hooplah when Corel wouldn't let ppl under 18 download their Linux, but it was to protect them. However, since I could just lie, I could download it anyway, and they could do nothing. I'd have breeched the contract, but since I can't be a party to it anyway, there's nothing they can do. I'm not a lawyer, heck I'm still in my last term of high school, so this is all of course just my take on it, but it seems fairly consistent in the cases I've seen. Since the Eclipse people didnt put anything about age in there (at least I didn't notice it), it would appear I am now the proud owner of unencumbered code and they have no possible recourse. I don't think this should be abused or anything; I'd probably have trouble when I turn 18, and it just doesn't seem right to me. Perhaps some other minor is braver than I. Regards, Laurence Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: +[ Laurence Berland ]- | Most licenses aren't all that enforceable. I was speaking with a lawyer | friend who theorized that if the person accepting the license was under | 18 (in the US at least) then they could do whatever they want with it. If you are unable to enter into that contract, then you would not legally be able to download the code. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 2000 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric
I like the idea as an optional LINT parameter that is NOT in the generic kernel. Might make some linux people feel comfortable with the switch, or might prove useful under some odd circumstances, but I agree it'd be silly to include it by default (kindof on the level of a splash screen) Robert Sexton wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 10:40:30AM -0700, Nick Sayer wrote: Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating a delay loop. We don't require doing any such thing, and so adding it would be purely cosmetic. However, I allege that cosmetic things aren't in and of themselves evil, so long as they don't break anything in the process. I'd have to agree with the "Lets be more professional" crowd. How about as a LINT option? "If you need something so banal, you can turn it on yourself" -- Robert Sexton, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody thinks of complaining." -- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in Doctor Dobb's Journal To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 1999 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
