Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)

2012-06-22 Thread Tom Rhodes
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:02:44 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

  why adding solaris style command to add a line in text file. just edit a
  text file.
 
 
  Scripting?
 
 
 
 echo newserviceline file
 
 grep -v servicetoberemoved file file.new;mv file.new file
 

Why have people edit yet another file to do process monitoring,
and have them kill hup a service just to have it work?  Not
very optimal I thought.

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Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)

2012-06-21 Thread Tom Rhodes
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:10:06 +0200
Daniel Gerzo dan...@rulez.sk wrote:

 Hello,
 
 
 Just picking a random message related to this issue. Maybe Tom might  
 update us a bit with the status of his project ;-)

Oh, put me on the spot, thanks Daniel!  :)

 
 Citát Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
  - monitor running services and restart them if they crash
 
  should not be done, or at least not default.
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2010-10-2010-12.html#FreeBSD-Services-Control-(fsc)
 http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2012-01-2012-03.html#FreeBSD-Services-Control
 

So, I'm not following the -hackers list (too much email, too
little personal time); however, I did take a few moments to
familarize myself with the conversation.

First off, my project was an attempt to pull what I liked from
SMF without some of the annoying parts.  I hadn't found it overly
complicated, but very SYSV like (for very obvious reasons).  At
point, I wondered how interesting it would be to replace rc or
augment it in some way that we could have several of the very
interesting ideas that are floating around out there.  Like
parallel start up, control of base and ports rc, control of inetd
and xinet services, and a quick way to get their status.  But
it was a passing interest that, without some additional hands,
will never turn into a real project.

Though, my services control stuff is in the ports collection now
(see sysutils/fsc) but that is a post-startup mechanism.  Sorry
I don't really have more to contribute right now, thanks,

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Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)

2012-06-21 Thread Tom Rhodes
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:20:44 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

  should not be done, or at least not default.
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2010-10-2010-12.html#FreeBSD-Services-Control-(fsc)
  http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2012-01-2012-03.html#FreeBSD-Services-Control
 separate and optional program.
 that's acceptable, except i have no idea why this fscadm enable/disable. 
 editing config is enough.

I don't think I understand
i have no idea why this fscadm enable/disable.  editing config is enough.
and would ask you elaborate for me.  Thanks,

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