Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test /etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: 1. (kde side) Anyone, would you please make a patch for nspluginscane to look /usr/X11R6/lib/browsers_plugins? or 2. (pluginwrapper side) If 1 is no, I'll install Flash6 plugin to /usr/local/netscape/plugins. Personally I'd like (2) better, /usr/X11/lib/browser_plugins isn't really in the spirit of hier(7). Great to hear about this flashplugin-via-libmap project, can you provide some details? We'd like to put a HOWTO on kde-freebsd's homepage, etc. And, do you know freebsd-kde mailling list? I know kde@ is, but I don't know public mailling list like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and, as possible as, freebsd-opera, too) [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the main public mailing list for KDE ports. There is an additional mailing lists with a smaller audience (mostly consisting of freebsd-ports- & KDE-developer people), [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test/etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: What point? Okay, new rule: if you're going to complain about something, include some supporting details, and a suggestion on how to make things better. Point (I'll sharpen it) -- ../lib is for *what*? Libraries? Putting entire packages and executables in lib directories is a horrible kludge, at least as far as my *NIX experience goes (only back to 1979). ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test/etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 11:23, Michael Sierchio wrote: Michael Nottebrock wrote: Such as putting packages in /usr/local/lib/ ? I don't get it. Me neither -- the practice of putting entire packages in /usr/local/lib from the ports, such as Mozilla, etc. Mozilla doesn't go into /usr/local/lib. It installs into /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla. Not on my planet. linux-mozilla (the native version hasn't been very compatible with java or other plugins) gets put in /usr/local/lib But /usr/X11R6/lib is just as "busted" -- thanks for making my point for me! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test/etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
Michael Sierchio wrote: Michael Nottebrock wrote: Such as putting packages in /usr/local/lib/ ? I don't get it. Me neither -- the practice of putting entire packages in /usr/local/lib from the ports, such as Mozilla, etc. Oh. Heh, well. I guess sometimes we could use some kind of /opt after all. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test/etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
Michael Nottebrock wrote: Such as putting packages in /usr/local/lib/ ? I don't get it. Me neither -- the practice of putting entire packages in /usr/local/lib from the ports, such as Mozilla, etc. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test/etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
Michael Sierchio wrote: Michael Nottebrock wrote: It's never too late to correct unfortunate decisions. :-) Such as putting packages in /usr/local/lib/ ? I don't get it. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test/etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
Michael Nottebrock wrote: It's never too late to correct unfortunate decisions. :-) Such as putting packages in /usr/local/lib/ ? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test /etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:00:45 +0200
Michael Nottebrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 11 October 2003 09:25, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 03:20, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 02:33, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> > > >>Norikatsu Shigemura wrote:
> > > >>> 1. (kde side) Anyone, would you please make a patch for
> > > >>> nspluginscane to look /usr/X11R6/lib/browsers_plugins?
> > > >>> or
> > > >>> 2. (pluginwrapper side) If 1 is no, I'll install Flash6
> > > >>> plugin to /usr/local/netscape/plugins.
> > > >>Personally I'd like (2) better, /usr/X11/lib/browser_plugins isn't
> > > >> really in the spirit of hier(7). Great to hear about this
> > > >> flashplugin-via-libmap project, can you provide some details? We'd
> > > >> like to put a HOWTO on kde-freebsd's homepage, etc.
> > > > However, browser_plugins is what is being used for other plug-ins (e.g.
> > > > mplayerplug-in), and this was decided on some time ago.
> > > It's never too late to correct unfortunate decisions. :-)
> > What don't you agree with?
> X11PREFIX. We really have to either stop cluttering /usr/X11R6 or rewrite
> hier(7), it's as simple as that. I'd be happy either way (I mean, really. KDE
> can move easily, FWIW), but I won't cut the occasional nagging earlier. :-)
Humm.. I think Michael has a misunderstanding.
This problem isn't installation (pkg-plist, hier(7)), but
is nspluginscan looking up a (some?) plugin directory as
${X11BASE}/lib/browser_plugins. Therefore unbreak hier(7).
> > Give me some better ideas. Give me some
> > reasons why you don't like the current scheme. At the time, I thought
> > it was better to do _something_ than kill the whole idea in a bikeshed.
> I like the idea of pulling together all the ports-installed browser plugins
> into one place. Even with the unfortunate prefix, I agree it's better than
> just putting them all over the place.
I hope that nspluginscan looks up ${X11BASE}/lib/brower_plugins
like a /usr/local/netscape/plugins, /opt/mozilla/plugins.
If this is OK, konqueror will be able to use Linux version
Flash6 plugin with seamless by flashpluginwrapper and
/etc/libmap.conf. Just like FreeBSD native version Flash6
plugin.
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Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test /etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 03:20, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 02:33, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > > >>Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > >> > >> > >>> 1. (kde side) Anyone, would you please make a patch for > >>> nspluginscane to look /usr/X11R6/lib/browsers_plugins? > >>> or > >>> 2. (pluginwrapper side) If 1 is no, I'll install Flash6 > >>> plugin to /usr/local/netscape/plugins. > >> > >>Personally I'd like (2) better, /usr/X11/lib/browser_plugins isn't really in > >>the spirit of hier(7). Great to hear about this flashplugin-via-libmap > >>project, can you provide some details? We'd like to put a HOWTO on > >>kde-freebsd's homepage, etc. > > > > > > However, browser_plugins is what is being used for other plug-ins (e.g. > > mplayerplug-in), and this was decided on some time ago. > > It's never too late to correct unfortunate decisions. :-) What don't you agree with? Give me some better ideas. Give me some reasons why you don't like the current scheme. At the time, I thought it was better to do _something_ than kill the whole idea in a bikeshed. Joe > > Anyway, the paths for konqueror's plugin-scanner are user-configurable through > konqueror's settings dialog. We certainly can make a local patch to the > defaults as well, and we can even try to get that patch merged upstream into > KDE's sources. So, just go ahead with whatever path you feel comfortable with, > we'll cope. -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test/etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 02:33, Michael Nottebrock wrote: Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: 1. (kde side) Anyone, would you please make a patch for nspluginscane to look /usr/X11R6/lib/browsers_plugins? or 2. (pluginwrapper side) If 1 is no, I'll install Flash6 plugin to /usr/local/netscape/plugins. Personally I'd like (2) better, /usr/X11/lib/browser_plugins isn't really in the spirit of hier(7). Great to hear about this flashplugin-via-libmap project, can you provide some details? We'd like to put a HOWTO on kde-freebsd's homepage, etc. However, browser_plugins is what is being used for other plug-ins (e.g. mplayerplug-in), and this was decided on some time ago. It's never too late to correct unfortunate decisions. :-) Anyway, the paths for konqueror's plugin-scanner are user-configurable through konqueror's settings dialog. We certainly can make a local patch to the defaults as well, and we can even try to get that patch merged upstream into KDE's sources. So, just go ahead with whatever path you feel comfortable with, we'll cope. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: HEADS UP: pelase test /etc/libmap.conffeature on 4-stable
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 02:33, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > > > > > 1. (kde side) Anyone, would you please make a patch for > >nspluginscane to look /usr/X11R6/lib/browsers_plugins? > > or > > 2. (pluginwrapper side) If 1 is no, I'll install Flash6 > >plugin to /usr/local/netscape/plugins. > > Personally I'd like (2) better, /usr/X11/lib/browser_plugins isn't really in > the spirit of hier(7). Great to hear about this flashplugin-via-libmap > project, can you provide some details? We'd like to put a HOWTO on > kde-freebsd's homepage, etc. However, browser_plugins is what is being used for other plug-ins (e.g. mplayerplug-in), and this was decided on some time ago. It might be best to have Flash installed in just one place. Joe -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
