Does FreeBSD issue messages about MAC/IP conflicts?

2010-01-03 Thread Yuri

I accidentally had two machines having the same wifi MAC address.
Wifi router gave them both the same local IP address and they both  
could somewhat connect to the outside world, but connections were flaky.


No messages about IP/MAC conflicts appeared in dmesg log.

Vague memories from the long ago past remind me that Windows was  
issuing IP conflict messages in the local wired network.


Why doesn't FreeBSD complain at leat about the IP conflict?

FreeBSD-8.0-STABLE, ath0 interface.

Yuri

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Re: Does FreeBSD issue messages about MAC/IP conflicts?

2010-01-03 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Yuri  wrote:
> I accidentally had two machines having the same wifi MAC address.
> Wifi router gave them both the same local IP address and they both could
> somewhat connect to the outside world, but connections were flaky.
>
> No messages about IP/MAC conflicts appeared in dmesg log.
>
> Vague memories from the long ago past remind me that Windows was issuing IP
> conflict messages in the local wired network.
>
> Why doesn't FreeBSD complain at leat about the IP conflict?
>

The last time I made the mistake of having two devices with the same
IP, I saw ARP messages in /var/log/messages as well as the system
console.  This was around 8.0-RC1, for what it's worth.



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Re: Does FreeBSD issue messages about MAC/IP conflicts?

2010-01-03 Thread perryh
Glen Barber  wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Yuri  wrote:
> > I accidentally had two machines having the same wifi MAC
> > address.  Wifi router gave them both the same local IP address
> > and they both could somewhat connect to the outside world, but
> > connections were flaky.
> >
> > No messages about IP/MAC conflicts appeared in dmesg log.
> >
> > Vague memories from the long ago past remind me that Windows
> > was issuing IP conflict messages in the local wired network.
> >
> > Why doesn't FreeBSD complain at leat about the IP conflict?
>
> The last time I made the mistake of having two devices with the
> same IP, I saw ARP messages in /var/log/messages as well as the
> system console.  This was around 8.0-RC1, for what it's worth.

ARP will notice when two different MAC addresses both claim the same
IP address, but to detect two different boxes both claiming the same
MAC/IP address pair would require some other way of identifying the
two boxes as different.
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Re: Does FreeBSD issue messages about MAC/IP conflicts?

2010-01-03 Thread Outback Dingo
my curiousity is howd he get duplicate mac addresses

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:02 PM,  wrote:

> Glen Barber  wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Yuri  wrote:
> > > I accidentally had two machines having the same wifi MAC
> > > address.  Wifi router gave them both the same local IP address
> > > and they both could somewhat connect to the outside world, but
> > > connections were flaky.
> > >
> > > No messages about IP/MAC conflicts appeared in dmesg log.
> > >
> > > Vague memories from the long ago past remind me that Windows
> > > was issuing IP conflict messages in the local wired network.
> > >
> > > Why doesn't FreeBSD complain at leat about the IP conflict?
> >
> > The last time I made the mistake of having two devices with the
> > same IP, I saw ARP messages in /var/log/messages as well as the
> > system console.  This was around 8.0-RC1, for what it's worth.
>
> ARP will notice when two different MAC addresses both claim the same
> IP address, but to detect two different boxes both claiming the same
> MAC/IP address pair would require some other way of identifying the
> two boxes as different.
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Re: Does FreeBSD issue messages about MAC/IP conflicts?

2010-01-04 Thread Manolis Kiagias
On 04/01/2010 4:30 π.μ., Outback Dingo wrote:
> my curiousity is howd he get duplicate mac addresses
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:02 PM,  wrote:
>
>   
>
Changed using ifconfig - maybe by a script?

like

ifconfig re0 link 
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RE: Does FreeBSD issue messages about MAC/IP conflicts?

2010-01-04 Thread Andresen, Jason R.
>From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org 
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Outback Dingo
>
>my curiousity is howd he get duplicate mac addresses
>

The most common cause that I've seen is duplicating virtual machines and not 
telling VMWare (or whatever you use) to re-jigger the virtual MAC address.  
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