Re: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > Have we had an opportunity to have the Walnut Creek (or other) legal staff > > review the actual rules for gotchas? > > No, this is something I hope to sit down with our corporate counsel > over very shortly. It's an annoying drive to San Jose from here, but > I'm prepared to make that sacrifice. :) There's no such thing as a relaxing visit to a lawyer's office, in my experience. The last time I visited one, it was to keep my empoyee and friend from being thrown out of the country. Thanks, as usual, for your contributions. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
"Christopher R. Bowman" wrote: > > The last paragraph would be a step in the right direction but still seems > silly. What are they going to do with it? I would really like to see people > educate them on the stupidity of sending code to Washington. I think it would > be neat if there was one of those blue ribbon campaign where on a flag day > every one put all the open source encryption programs they could find up on > their web pages, and then sent them to Washington, one to a floppy > disk/envelope. It would be kinda neat if 1, 5, 10 or even a hundred thousand > little envelopes with 1 floppy a piece showed up it the appropriate Washington > office on the same day. Wonder how long the silly send a copy to Washington > rule would remain after that. Forever. You are making the mistake of thinking they play to do something with all of this information. They do not, they play to print it out on greenbar paper and store it in some warehouse somewhere, along with all the extra B-17 toilet seats and WWI-vintage helmets and other piles of useless crap they own. Never underestimate the silliness of a beauracracy, for it is boundless. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
> Have we had an opportunity to have the Walnut Creek (or other) legal staff > review the actual rules for gotchas? No, this is something I hope to sit down with our corporate counsel over very shortly. It's an annoying drive to San Jose from here, but I'm prepared to make that sacrifice. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Basically, does this mean something like > tar cf - /usr/src/crypto | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ? :-) No. Mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", Hilary is handling the database. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
Matthew Dillon wrote: > > The last two paragraphs are the most relevant to us. > > http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-encryption.html > Have we had an opportunity to have the Walnut Creek (or other) legal staff review the actual rules for gotchas? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
At 03:01 AM 1/13/00 +0100, you wrote: >Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: > > The last two paragraphs are the most relevant to us. > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-encryption.html > >Hmm. These paragraphs don't sound that nice: > > [...] complex restrictions still affect programrs and > others who want to exchange programs or source code to > write programs. > [...] ``The bad news is, if you want to send an encryption > program outside of the United States, you still need to > hire a lawyer,'' Davidson added. > >But then, at the end: > > People posting ``open source'' programs would be required > to send the code, or a Web site address where the code was > displayed, to the government. > >Basically, does this mean something like >tar cf - /usr/src/crypto | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] >? :-) The last paragraph would be a step in the right direction but still seems silly. What are they going to do with it? I would really like to see people educate them on the stupidity of sending code to Washington. I think it would be neat if there was one of those blue ribbon campaign where on a flag day every one put all the open source encryption programs they could find up on their web pages, and then sent them to Washington, one to a floppy disk/envelope. It would be kinda neat if 1, 5, 10 or even a hundred thousand little envelopes with 1 floppy a piece showed up it the appropriate Washington office on the same day. Wonder how long the silly send a copy to Washington rule would remain after that. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Oliver Fromme wrote: > But then, at the end: > >People posting ``open source'' programs would be required >to send the code, or a Web site address where the code was >displayed, to the government. > > Basically, does this mean something like > tar cf - /usr/src/crypto | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ? :-) Oh come on, where's your imagination? tar cf - /usr/src/crypto | openssl enc -des-cbc -a -e -k TheOwlFliesAtMidnight | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 03:01:01AM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: >People posting ``open source'' programs would be required >to send the code, or a Web site address where the code was >displayed, to the government. > > Basically, does this mean something like > tar cf - /usr/src/crypto | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ? :-) Oh, be nice. Put "uuencode" in that pipeline somewhere, at least :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
RE: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
On 13-Jan-00 Matthew Dillon wrote: > The last two paragraphs are the most relevant to us. > http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-encryption.html So does this mean we OpenSSH in the base system some time soon? :) (Post RSA patent expiry?) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: > The last two paragraphs are the most relevant to us. > > http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-encryption.html Hmm. These paragraphs don't sound that nice: [...] complex restrictions still affect programrs and others who want to exchange programs or source code to write programs. [...] ``The bad news is, if you want to send an encryption program outside of the United States, you still need to hire a lawyer,'' Davidson added. But then, at the end: People posting ``open source'' programs would be required to send the code, or a Web site address where the code was displayed, to the government. Basically, does this mean something like tar cf - /usr/src/crypto | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? :-) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Encryption rules changes coming up - win for open source
The last two paragraphs are the most relevant to us. http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-encryption.html -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
