Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
El día Monday, August 27, 2012 a las 09:56:49AM +0200, Paul Schenkeveld escribió: > Kirk often teaches 1-day or 2-day courses at BSD conferences at a very > reasonable price, especially for people working or wanting to work as > volunteers for FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. > > Your next opportunity is the EuroBSDcon 2012 conference in Warsaw, > Poland where Kirk teaches on friday October 19, 2012: I was once at a USENIX conference in Anahein, California, where Sam Leffler gave a two days teaching about sockets etc., very useful such trainings, but expensive too; and far away to reach an audience big enough as we would need to get more volunteers on board, I think matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 09:49:58AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Sunday, August 26, 2012 a las 02:25:57PM +0100, Chris Rees escribió: > > > On 26 Aug 2012 13:15, "Wojciech Puchar" > > wrote: > > > > > > very expensive.. > > > > Training and education generally are. > > Agreed, if the goal is commercial. But I do not know if this price > invites are people who want to start digging into the FreeBSD kernel to > take over volunteer work there and help FreeBSD growing. Kirk often teaches 1-day or 2-day courses at BSD conferences at a very reasonable price, especially for people working or wanting to work as volunteers for FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. Your next opportunity is the EuroBSDcon 2012 conference in Warsaw, Poland where Kirk teaches on friday October 19, 2012: http://www.eurobsdcon.org/ > matthias With kind regards, Paul Schenkeveld ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
El día Sunday, August 26, 2012 a las 02:25:57PM +0100, Chris Rees escribió: > On 26 Aug 2012 13:15, "Wojciech Puchar" > wrote: > > > > very expensive.. > > Training and education generally are. Agreed, if the goal is commercial. But I do not know if this price invites are people who want to start digging into the FreeBSD kernel to take over volunteer work there and help FreeBSD growing. matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
Training and education generally are. It's still very expensive. $100 I can understand, but $1000 for individuals? Take a look at the courses available on coursera.org, all for free. Take a look at the prices for video/audio courses on thegreatcourses.com. Combined with the fact that these videos were recorded from lectures given to an in-person audience, rather than produced specifically for home viewing, IMHO the price is quite unreasonable. there are no unreasonable price as long as there are buyers :) ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 26 Aug 2012 13:15, "Wojciech Puchar" > > wrote: > >> > >> very expensive.. > > > > Training and education generally are. > > It's still very expensive. $100 I can understand, but $1000 for individuals? > > Take a look at the courses available on coursera.org, all for free. > Take a look at the prices for video/audio courses on > thegreatcourses.com. Combined with the fact that these videos were > recorded from lectures given to an in-person audience, rather than > produced specifically for home viewing, IMHO the price is quite > unreasonable. These videos are the equivalent of learning about the Constitution from its framers. While some Coursera courses can say the same, they appear to be relatively few. This is also probably a significant portion of Kirk's income. Unlike the universities represented in Coursera, he has no regular day job that I'm aware of. He has no university infrastructure and funding model that is already paying him to create these courses (and just capturing them on the side for online use). Finally, he offers discounts: "Please note that I offer a 25% discount to people that can make a plausible hardship case and a 50% discount to full-time students. Please contact me at mckus...@mckusick.com to verify that you qualify and to get instructions on how to order at the discounted price." I think that this all adds up to the pricing being quite fair. Royce ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > On 26 Aug 2012 13:15, "Wojciech Puchar" > wrote: >> >> very expensive.. > > Training and education generally are. It's still very expensive. $100 I can understand, but $1000 for individuals? Take a look at the courses available on coursera.org, all for free. Take a look at the prices for video/audio courses on thegreatcourses.com. Combined with the fact that these videos were recorded from lectures given to an in-person audience, rather than produced specifically for home viewing, IMHO the price is quite unreasonable. - Max ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
On 26 Aug 2012 13:15, "Wojciech Puchar" wrote: > > very expensive.. Training and education generally are. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
very expensive.. On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Kirill Radzikhovskyy wrote: I started watching the video. In the video it states that you can purchase the reset at https://www.mckusick.com/courses/introorderform.html Regards, Kirill R On 26 August 2012 10:22, Fredrik wrote: Hi, I found the first lecture of 10 on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwbqBdghh6E does anyone know if the rest is available anywhere, for free, sale or other? Regards Fredrik___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- ** *FreeBSD is for those who love UNIX(tm). Linux is for those who hate Windows(tm). * *"To recurse is human, to box a continuation into an object and send it across a network is divine. " -- Andy Kitchen* * * * "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." -- Brian W. Kernighan. * ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
I should have paid more attention. :) Thank you. 26 aug 2012 kl. 04.39 skrev Kirill Radzikhovskyy: > I started watching the video. > > In the video it states that you can purchase the reset at > https://www.mckusick.com/courses/introorderform.html > > Regards, > Kirill R > > > > On 26 August 2012 10:22, Fredrik wrote: > Hi, > > I found the first lecture of 10 on YouTube: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwbqBdghh6E > does anyone know if the rest is available anywhere, for free, sale or other? > > Regards > > Fredrik___ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > FreeBSD is for those who love UNIX(tm). > Linux is for those who hate Windows(tm). > > "To recurse is human, to box a continuation into an object and send it across > a network is divine. " > -- Andy Kitchen > > "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. > Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by > definition, not smart enough to debug it." > -- Brian W. Kernighan. > ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
I started watching the video. In the video it states that you can purchase the reset at https://www.mckusick.com/courses/introorderform.html Regards, Kirill R On 26 August 2012 10:22, Fredrik wrote: > Hi, > > I found the first lecture of 10 on YouTube: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwbqBdghh6E > does anyone know if the rest is available anywhere, for free, sale or > other? > > Regards > > Fredrik___ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- ** *FreeBSD is for those who love UNIX(tm). Linux is for those who hate Windows(tm). * *"To recurse is human, to box a continuation into an object and send it across a network is divine. " -- Andy Kitchen* * * * "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it." -- Brian W. Kernighan. * ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video
Hi, I found the first lecture of 10 on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwbqBdghh6E does anyone know if the rest is available anywhere, for free, sale or other? Regards Fredrik___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
