Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
On 2012.01.19. 3:06, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: You mean something like:http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gnats/ ? It is not up to date. I have not closed too many PRs in the last 3 months and I'm still on the top PR closers list. Gabor ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
Igor Mozolevsky wrote: On 19 January 2012 00:57, Dieter BSD dieter...@engineer.com wrote: Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 You mean something like: http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gnats/ ? Wow ! I hope that has a link from somewhere, or appearance in, the main tree. If so, I suggest add a back link. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:57:33 -0500, Dieter BSD wrote: Andriy writes: And dealing with PRs is not always exciting. Neither is brushing your teeth or cleaning the kitchen, but most of us manage to do them at least occasionally. Part of being a grown up. Instead of looking for a stick to hold over developers to get them to fix PRs, let's look for carrots to make fixing PRs more appealing. Idea 1: Fix 'n' PRs, get a tee-shirt, fridge magnet, plush daemon, ... Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats http://www.oook.cz/bsd/prstats/ http://wiki.freebsd.org/BugBusting -- Kind regards Daniel ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 06:23:00AM +, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: Idea 1: Fix 'n' PRs, get a tee-shirt, fridge magnet, plush daemon, ... Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 You should get extra points for difficult PR's. One way to measure this would be to give more points for fixing older PR's than newer PR's. Number of points = number of days or weeks that a PR has been in the system before triage ? I would think this would put some emphasis on either triaging old PRs before new ones or actually postponing and assigning a status that cannot accumulate a higher amount of points. But then what? What to do with the points after they accumulate? Wouldn't it be cool if there was some funding or backing where you could trade your points in for a pint or a cup of coffee? Call it Coffee for Coders or the CC fund 8-) You know.. That might be a funny way of assigning points for a PR. How many cups of coffee you expect to be drunk during the fixing of a PR. All meant tongue to cheek, of course 8-) Peg Yeah great point. If only someone like the foundation could secure that... -- ;s =; ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
On 19 January 2012 11:55, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Igor Mozolevsky wrote: On 19 January 2012 00:57, Dieter BSD dieter...@engineer.com wrote: Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 You mean something like: http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gnats/ ? Wow ! I hope that has a link from somewhere, or appearance in, the main tree. If so, I suggest add a back link. http://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html - View PR Statistics link :-) -- Igor M. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
Andriy writes: And dealing with PRs is not always exciting. Neither is brushing your teeth or cleaning the kitchen, but most of us manage to do them at least occasionally. Part of being a grown up. Instead of looking for a stick to hold over developers to get them to fix PRs, let's look for carrots to make fixing PRs more appealing. Idea 1: Fix 'n' PRs, get a tee-shirt, fridge magnet, plush daemon, ... Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dieter BSD Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:58 PM To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle) Andriy writes: And dealing with PRs is not always exciting. Neither is brushing your teeth or cleaning the kitchen, but most of us manage to do them at least occasionally. Part of being a grown up. Instead of looking for a stick to hold over developers to get them to fix PRs, let's look for carrots to make fixing PRs more appealing. Idea 1: Fix 'n' PRs, get a tee-shirt, fridge magnet, plush daemon, ... +1 (!) But careful not to incentivize those that raise PRs to split a single PR into multiples purely for metrics. We probably won't care that this might also incentivize committers to raise PRs for the commits they would normally make without one (wait, does that happen?) Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 +1 -- Devin _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
On 19 January 2012 00:57, Dieter BSD dieter...@engineer.com wrote: Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 You mean something like: http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gnats/ ? ;-) -- Igor M :-) ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Igor Mozolevsky Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:06 PM To: Dieter BSD Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle) On 19 January 2012 00:57, Dieter BSD dieter...@engineer.com wrote: Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 You mean something like: http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gnats/ ? ;-) I'd want to know more about how the metrics for the top responsibles is gathered, because its current state may represent a tell-tale problem if PRs are idling too-often in their generic assignments (rather than being disbursed in a timely fashion to more-appropriate owners). -- Devin _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- hack...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Igor Mozolevsky Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:06 PM To: Dieter BSD Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle) On 19 January 2012 00:57, Dieter BSD dieter...@engineer.com wrote: Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 You mean something like: http://people.freebsd.org/~edwin/gnats/ ? ;-) Sure would be nice if the colors used in each graph were actually defined (just sayin'). -- Devin _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
On 01/18/2012 06:57 PM, Dieter BSD wrote: Andriy writes: And dealing with PRs is not always exciting. Neither is brushing your teeth or cleaning the kitchen, but most of us manage to do them at least occasionally. Part of being a grown up. Instead of looking for a stick to hold over developers to get them to fix PRs, let's look for carrots to make fixing PRs more appealing. Idea 1: Fix 'n' PRs, get a tee-shirt, fridge magnet, plush daemon, ... Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 You should get extra points for difficult PR's. One way to measure this would be to give more points for fixing older PR's than newer PR's. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:59:48PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: On 01/18/2012 06:57 PM, Dieter BSD wrote: Andriy writes: And dealing with PRs is not always exciting. Neither is brushing your teeth or cleaning the kitchen, but most of us manage to do them at least occasionally. Part of being a grown up. Instead of looking for a stick to hold over developers to get them to fix PRs, let's look for carrots to make fixing PRs more appealing. Idea 1: Fix 'n' PRs, get a tee-shirt, fridge magnet, plush daemon, ... Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 You should get extra points for difficult PR's. One way to measure this would be to give more points for fixing older PR's than newer PR's. Number of points = number of days or weeks that a PR has been in the system before triage ? I would think this would put some emphasis on either triaging old PRs before new ones or actually postponing and assigning a status that cannot accumulate a higher amount of points. -- ;s =; pgpKAvBuxOSKG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting PRs fixed (was: Re: ...focus, longevity, and lifecycle)
Idea 1: Fix 'n' PRs, get a tee-shirt, fridge magnet, plush daemon, ... Idea 2: Give it status. Set up a web page with PR fixing stats name/handle..total PRs fixed...fixed in last 12 months...average fixed/year Sheldon..150...9072 Leonard..131..11067 Howard...104...2052 Raj...80...8080 You should get extra points for difficult PR's. One way to measure this would be to give more points for fixing older PR's than newer PR's. Number of points = number of days or weeks that a PR has been in the system before triage ? I would think this would put some emphasis on either triaging old PRs before new ones or actually postponing and assigning a status that cannot accumulate a higher amount of points. But then what? What to do with the points after they accumulate? Wouldn't it be cool if there was some funding or backing where you could trade your points in for a pint or a cup of coffee? Call it Coffee for Coders or the CC fund 8-) You know.. That might be a funny way of assigning points for a PR. How many cups of coffee you expect to be drunk during the fixing of a PR. All meant tongue to cheek, of course 8-) Peg ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
