Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 02:27:31PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: If there are people who are cleaning up the support for older network cards in FreeBSD I'd like to help out by sending you my old NICs. It's not like they're any good to me without OS support. Please contact me off-list for any of the following cards: 3Com 3c503ISA DEC EtherworksISA DEC DE205 ISA SMC EtherEZ ISA RealTek "TP-Link" PCI That's great, thank you! :-) When I had similar problems, I searched the web site for relevant PRs and found that although the problem wasn't widely known, I was not alone. As far as the DEC cards go, see PR misc/18641, we have been trying to get some old DEC cards to Paul Richards so that he can work on a fix for the le(4) driver, but fate keeps getting in the way. (BTW, I'm using these fine with FreeBSD 3.3 but 3.5 and above don't work) Please contact Paul if you can arrange to send the DEC cards to the UK. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: More detail on Deskpro XL6200 NIC (was: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD)
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] Dear Bill, others, I've been working on getting my Deskpros to use their NIC under 4.2, but no luck. The problem is as follows: I installed 4.0, and the NIC came up under the lnc driver, reports its MAC address and works fine. [...] In 4.2, the lnc driver still probes and finds the NIC, but does not report finding a MAC address, and the NIC remains dead. [...] Compiling a kernel with the pcn driver does not help. Booting a lnc+pcn kernel causes the behaviour described above, booting a pcn-only kernel makes the NIC show up as an unknown device, vendor 0x1022, device 0x2000. *ahem* How about compiling a kernel *without* the pcn driver? I want to know why you didn't consider this combination. (Well, I know why: because giving me the answer straight away rather than making me drag it out of you would have been too easy. I would never be that lucky.) The pcn driver does *not* want this card. It specifically checks for the device code in the probe routine and rejects cards it doesn't like. Note that this is *not* the PCI vendor/device ID: the way AMD did it, the PCI ID is the same for all the PCnet devices. You need to read a register in I/O space to determine exactly what device this is. That said, I think I know what the problem is. The pcn driver is probing the card first and setting it to 32-bit mode. The lnc driver wants the device to be in 16-bit mode: if it isn't, it won't be able to properly access any of its registers. This is why reading the card type and MAC address fails. Next time, *remove* the pcn device from the kernel config and leave the lnc driver. That should work. In the meantime, I need to get out the PCnet manual and check how to put the device back into 16-bit mode at the end of pcn_probe() so that the lnc driver will play nice with it. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
RE: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
Ok, "seem to have lost support" is about the vaguest thing you could have said. I've killed people for less. I'm too young to die. Sorry for the lack of detail. I should have known better. Please explain in detail how you arrived at the conclusion that the card was no longer supported. Show us the dmesg output from your machine. Explain what you tried to do and what results you observed. Don't just say "it doesn't work." You've not going to help anyone that way. 4.0 detects my card, prints the ethernet address during the probe, and actually transmits data when asked to do so. DHCP configures the card, etc. 4.2 detects the card, but does *not* find its ethernet address and the DHCP probe simply never returns, although the machine responds to keypresses to break the installation. Did you check to see if a pcn0 device was detected? Did you attempt to use it? No. If not, why not? I did not know it was there. SMC EtherEZ ISA Should also work with the ed driver, though you may have to turn off plug and play mode using the SMC EZSetup utility. I will try this. RealTek "TP-Link" PCI If this is a 10mbps card, it should be an NE2000 clone, and will work with the ed driver. If it's a 100Mbps card, it should work with the rl driver. Like I said: it probes, works for a bit, then drops the line and needs a power-cycle. I have two, one of them is available for an individual who wants to hack at it, the other one will serve as a cupholder after I've stomped on it for a bit, otherwise the cups keep falling over. I'll be happy to try out patches for the lnc driver to fix the problem of the Deskpro, or to give remote access to it if you want to work on it. I'd be happier if you told me whether the pcn driver works or not. Will try. Please hold ... Kees Jan You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
Dear All, Last night I cvsupped my trusty old Compaq Deskpro XL 6200 from 4.0-release to 4.2-beta. As part of that process, I seem to have lost support for the on-board NIC (lnc0: PCNet/PCI Ethernet Adapter, PC-net-32 VL-Bus). What is the newest version of FreeBSD that will propely support that card? If there are people who are cleaning up the support for older network cards in FreeBSD I'd like to help out by sending you my old NICs. It's not like they're any good to me without OS support. Please contact me off-list for any of the following cards: 3Com 3c503ISA DEC EtherworksISA DEC DE205 ISA SMC EtherEZ ISA RealTek "TP-Link" PCI As far as I've been able to determine, none of these work properly. In particular, the RealTek card gets detected and pretends to work, but loses the link after a bit (The link status LED goes out, and I need to reboot the box.) I'll be happy to try out patches for the lnc driver to fix the problem of the Deskpro, or to give remote access to it if you want to work on it. Kees Jan You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
"Koster, K.J." wrote: Dear All, Last night I cvsupped my trusty old Compaq Deskpro XL 6200 from 4.0-release to 4.2-beta. As part of that process, I seem to have lost support for the on-board NIC (lnc0: PCNet/PCI Ethernet Adapter, PC-net-32 VL-Bus). What is the newest version of FreeBSD that will propely support that card? If there are people who are cleaning up the support for older network cards in FreeBSD I'd like to help out by sending you my old NICs. It's not like they're any good to me without OS support. Please contact me off-list for any of the following cards: 3Com 3c503ISA should be ok with the ed driver, for correct values of irq and io range DEC EtherworksISA DEC DE205 ISA SMC EtherEZ ISA ditto RealTek "TP-Link" PCI As far as I've been able to determine, none of these work properly. In particular, the RealTek card gets detected and pretends to work, but loses the link after a bit (The link status LED goes out, and I need to reboot the box.) I'll be happy to try out patches for the lnc driver to fix the problem of the Deskpro, or to give remote access to it if you want to work on it. Kees Jan -- Thierry Herbelot To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Koster, K.J." writes: : 3Com 3c503ISA I think so. The ed driver supports this : DEC EtherworksISA : DEC DE205 ISA don't know about these. lnc driver supports them maybe ? : SMC EtherEZ ISA ed driver. : RealTek "TP-Link" PCI Don't know about this one. : As far as I've been able to determine, none of these work properly. In : particular, the RealTek card gets detected and pretends to work, but loses : the link after a bit (The link status LED goes out, and I need to reboot the : box.) Read Bill Paul's glowing reviews of the realtek hardware in the rl driver :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] Dear All, Last night I cvsupped my trusty old Compaq Deskpro XL 6200 from 4.0-release to 4.2-beta. As part of that process, I seem to have lost support for the on-board NIC (lnc0: PCNet/PCI Ethernet Adapter, PC-net-32 VL-Bus). Ok, "seem to have lost support" is about the vaguest thing you could have said. I've killed people for less. Please explain in detail how you arrived at the conclusion that the card was no longer supported. Show us the dmesg output from your machine. Explain what you tried to do and what results you observed. Don't just say "it doesn't work." You've not going to help anyone that way. FreeBSD 4.2 has a new driver for AMD PCnet/PCI devices, in particular the 10/100 cards, because the lnc driver runs these cards in 16-bit LANCE compatibility mode which really impairs their performance. Did you check to see if a pcn0 device was detected? Did you attempt to use it? If not, why not? If so, what happened? What is the newest version of FreeBSD that will propely support that card? You're soaking in it. If there are people who are cleaning up the support for older network cards in FreeBSD I'd like to help out by sending you my old NICs. It's not like they're any good to me without OS support. Please contact me off-list for any of the following cards: 3Com 3c503ISA Should work with the ed driver, *provided* you get its I/O address set correctly so that the ed driver will detect it. I haven't used one of these since FreeBSD 2.x though. DEC EtherworksISA DEC DE205 ISA Don't know about these. SMC EtherEZ ISA Should also work with the ed driver, though you may have to turn off plug and play mode using the SMC EZSetup utility. RealTek "TP-Link" PCI If this is a 10mbps card, it should be an NE2000 clone, and will work with the ed driver. If it's a 100Mbps card, it should work with the rl driver. I'll be happy to try out patches for the lnc driver to fix the problem of the Deskpro, or to give remote access to it if you want to work on it. I'd be happier if you told me whether the pcn driver works or not. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
: 3Com 3c503ISA I think so. The ed driver supports this I'm pretty sure the ed driver doesn't support the 503. I think we dropped support for the 503 a *REALLY* long time ago (2.1 days...) : DEC EtherworksISA : DEC DE205 ISA don't know about these. lnc driver supports them maybe ? Use to be the le driver supported them, but apparently it's broken now. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
: 3Com 3c503ISA I think so. The ed driver supports this I'm pretty sure the ed driver doesn't support the 503. I think we dropped support for the 503 a *REALLY* long time ago (2.1 days...) You are probably confusing it with the 501 or 505. The 503 is basically an NE1000 (with a better probe routine). -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
: 3Com 3c503ISA I think so. The ed driver supports this I'm pretty sure the ed driver doesn't support the 503. I think we dropped support for the 503 a *REALLY* long time ago (2.1 days...) You are probably confusing it with the 501 or 505. The 503 is basically an NE1000 (with a better probe routine). You're indeed correct. It was the 501 that we dropped support for, sorry for the false information. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Nate Williams wrote: : 3Com 3c503ISA I think so. The ed driver supports this I'm pretty sure the ed driver doesn't support the 503. I think we dropped support for the 503 a *REALLY* long time ago (2.1 days...) How difficult is it to check the source? The 3c503 is supported. You're thinking of the 3c501 and the 3c505. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL| ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
