Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-19 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis


> Anyone know who this might be?

Jesus Monroy jr. ?

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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Brandon D. Valentine

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Brett Glass wrote:

>You actually make some good points about the nastiness of some people
>in the FreeBSD community. Alas, you discredit yourself by posting
>pseudonymously and by doing a great deal of flaming yourself.

Perhaps you should qualify your definition of "good points".  I saw no
evidence behind any accusations made.  I saw ad hominem attacks calling
FreeBSD developers assholes and drunkards.  Any points made by the
author were merely begging the question.  He gave no evidence that any
of the attitudes of the people he mentioned were in some way detrimental
to the project, he merely asserts that this must be true.  He is also
committing the sin of a /post hoc ergo propter hoc/ argument.  The
attitudes of a few developers within the FreeBSD community, if they are
indeed causing a problem, may not be in any way related to the effects
the poster was trying to justify cause for.  Argument without substance
is not argument at all.  It's wasted breath and/or keystrokes.

Brett, I've been reading your postings long enough to know you're an
argumentative sort and also that your mien seems to be self-perpetuating
because people now approach you as if to have an argument.  Please
understand I am not trying to argue with you.  I am pointing out
fallacies in someone else's opinions which I think you may have
overlooked.  I wish neither to defend the developers attacked by the
poster nor defend the poster himself.  Replies challenging me to do so
will be directed to /dev/null.

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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Colin Percival

At 13:48 18/06/2002 -0600, Brett Glass wrote:
>At 02:39 AM 6/18/2002, Bill Flamerola wrote:
> >[snip]
>
>You actually make some good points about the nastiness of some people
>in the FreeBSD community.

   I don't understand this.  Where does all this nastiness happen?

   Maybe it's on -core.  I don't read that.  But in the year or so that 
I've been reading -security, -stable, and -hackers, I haven't seen any 
nastiness.  I've seen people who disagree with each other, and I've seen 
people get annoyed when the same issues are brought up over and over again, 
but I really haven't seen anything which I'd call *nasty*.

   Can't we all be a bit more tolerant and get along with each other?

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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Brett Glass

At 02:39 AM 6/18/2002, Bill Flamerola wrote:
  
>Okay, this is not really intended as a flame, but kinda necessary, given the current 
>situation in the FreeBSD camp.
>
>Let's see, some weeks ago a couple of people dropped their ports maintainership, why 
>did this happen? Sergey dropped his ports because David O'Brien is an asshole. Yes, 
>no news, we all know that. Asmodai resigned some days ago, why? Because fucking Bill 
>Fumerola is a royal asshole. Has fucking Bill Fumerola ever done any worthwhile work 
>for FreeBSD? NO. He prefers to spend his time flaming other people. FUCK YOU FUMEROLA!

You actually make some good points about the nastiness of some people
in the FreeBSD community. Alas, you discredit yourself by posting
pseudonymously and by doing a great deal of flaming yourself.

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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Brandon D. Valentine

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

>All I really have to say about the matter is that nothing says "lack of
>genitalia" like an anonymous hotmail account. :)

You have a way with words there, Alfred.

To add insult to injury nothing says "lack of grey matter" like:
"X-Originating-IP: [195.235.247.100]"

[bandix@dallben ~]% whois 195.235.247.100
[snip]
% This is the RIPE Whois server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
% Please visit http://www.ripe.net/rpsl for more information.
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html

inetnum:  195.235.247.96 - 195.235.247.111
netname:  ALFONSOXELSABIO
descr:Universidad Alfonso X El Sabio
descr:Internet Public Addresses
country:  ES
admin-c:  RM5475-RIPE
tech-c:   RM5475-RIPE
status:   ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by:   MAINT-AS3352
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010924
source:   RIPE

route:195.235.0.0/16
descr:Telefonica Data Espan~a
origin:   AS3352
mnt-by:   MAINT-AS3352
mnt-routes:   MAINT-AS3352
mnt-lower:MAINT-AS3352
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010308
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  20020118
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  20020313
source:   RIPE

person:   Raul Morata
address:  Universidad Alfonso X El Sabio
address:  Universidad, 1
address:  Villanueva de la Canada 28691 (Madrid)
address:  SPAIN
phone:+34 91 8105000
nic-hdl:  RM5475-RIPE
mnt-by:   MAINT-AS3352
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19991207
source:   RIPE

Anyone know who this might be?  Probably wouldn't hurt for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to draft a polite email asking the admin on the
other end of this pipe to LART his lame user.

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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Eric Anderson


Lets stop the thread now please.



Hiten Pandya wrote:
> 
> --- Bill Flamerola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm talking to you, fucking Hiten Pandya, damned asshole. And I'm talking
> > to you, stupid Alfred Perlstein. Alfred is an interesting person. He seems
> 
> I know this address of yours is shit, but I know you read this list.
> 
> I think you are making nice fun out of your fucking self; I think you should
> go and screw yourself in a big tub of water.  If you are so inclined on
> judging people, please do so that with people who are stupid enough to listen
> to you.
> 
> > Matthew Dillon is one of the few hackers worth his salt, what does he get
> > in return? A 5 day commit bit suspension. Matt, please, join NetBSD, they
> > need help in the SMP code, and leave all these hypocrites alone.
> 
> Get your facts right!
> 
> > David O'Brien -> good hacker but a total asshole
> > Dag-Erling Smorgrav -> a total asshole
> > Alfred Perlstein -> drunktard and hypocrite
> > Bill Fumerola -> The überasshole, FUCK FUMEROLA
> > Kris Kennaway -> Hyprocrite
> 
> > Hiten Pandya -> an IMBECILE, grow up fucking moron
> 
> I think you are the IMBECILE MORON!  I think you should be the one who
> should apologise to all the people you have just said bad things about.
> 
>   -- Hiten Pandya
>   -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Hiten Pandya

--- Bill Flamerola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm talking to you, fucking Hiten Pandya, damned asshole. And I'm talking 
> to you, stupid Alfred Perlstein. Alfred is an interesting person. He seems

I know this address of yours is shit, but I know you read this list.

I think you are making nice fun out of your fucking self; I think you should
go and screw yourself in a big tub of water.  If you are so inclined on 
judging people, please do so that with people who are stupid enough to listen
to you.

> Matthew Dillon is one of the few hackers worth his salt, what does he get
> in return? A 5 day commit bit suspension. Matt, please, join NetBSD, they 
> need help in the SMP code, and leave all these hypocrites alone.

Get your facts right!

> David O'Brien -> good hacker but a total asshole
> Dag-Erling Smorgrav -> a total asshole
> Alfred Perlstein -> drunktard and hypocrite
> Bill Fumerola -> The überasshole, FUCK FUMEROLA
> Kris Kennaway -> Hyprocrite

> Hiten Pandya -> an IMBECILE, grow up fucking moron

I think you are the IMBECILE MORON!  I think you should be the one who
should apologise to all the people you have just said bad things about.

  -- Hiten Pandya
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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Alfred Perlstein

* Randall Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020618 04:13] wrote:
> 
> right...
> and to bring all these VILE people to public knowledge...you use a hotmail
> addr and a name that we are supposed to see as 'witty' or 'clever'.
> 
> please don't take the silence from the people on the respeced boards you
> decided to spam your email the wrong wayI'm sure most of us are shocked
> into silence from the profound and insightful statements you have made.
> 
> well...that..or none of us really care what anonymous posters have to say.
> duck that identity...make full use of the internet to hide the source of
> your venting.
> 
> bill...alfred..was some kid denied a port or something to warrent this silly
> temper tantrum? :)

All I really have to say about the matter is that nothing says "lack of
genitalia" like an anonymous hotmail account. :)

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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Dan Langille

On 18 Jun 2002 at 10:21, Christopher Schulte wrote:

> At 08:39 AM 6/18/2002 +, Bill Flamerola wrote:
> >Okay, this is not really intended as a flame, but kinda necessary, given
> >the current situation in the FreeBSD camp.
> 
> OMG R U SERIOUS?  Thx for the warning, I'll ditch FreeBSD and load NetBSD
> right now.

I wonder if NetBSDDiary is available...
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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Christopher Schulte

At 08:39 AM 6/18/2002 +, Bill Flamerola wrote:
>Okay, this is not really intended as a flame, but kinda necessary, given 
>the current situation in the FreeBSD camp.

OMG R U SERIOUS?  Thx for the warning, I'll ditch FreeBSD and load NetBSD 
right now.

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Ahh yes, using a respected hotmail address...  *giggle* thanks for the 
morning laugh.

Don't feed the trolls, any more than is required for good humor.

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Thanks Developers (Was The problem with FreeBSD)

2002-06-18 Thread Thomas D. Dean

Please ignore the rhetoric from the anonymous poster...

Thanks developers for good work.

tomdean

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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Bosko Milekic


  Bill H., is that you?

On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 08:39:57AM +, Bill Flamerola wrote:
> Okay, this is not really intended as a flame, but kinda necessary, given the 
> current situation in the FreeBSD camp.
[...useless stuff...]

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Re: The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Randall Hamilton

> Okay, this is not really intended as a flame, but kinda necessary, given
the
> current situation in the FreeBSD camp.
>
> Let's see, some weeks ago a couple of people dropped their ports
> maintainership, why did this happen? Sergey dropped his ports because
David
> O'Brien is an asshole. Yes, no news, we all know that. Asmodai resigned
some
> days ago, why? Because fucking Bill Fumerola is a royal asshole. Has
fucking
> Bill Fumerola ever done any worthwhile work for FreeBSD? NO. He prefers to
> spend his time flaming other people. FUCK YOU FUMEROLA!
>
> Jordan Hubbard left, Mike Smith left. Why? Because a large number of the
> people involved in FreeBSD are either assholes or hypocrites. What's the
> prefered game in #bsdcode? Right, flaming Terry Lambert. Terry may not be
> perfect, but he has *never* insulted anyone, he's a nice person to talk
to,
> and pretty often comes up with nice ideas. I'm talking to you, fucking
Hiten
> Pandya, damned asshole. And I'm talking to you, stupid Alfred Perlstein.
> Alfred is an interesting person. He seems to be drunk most of the time,
has
> never contributed anything important to the project, yet he likes to flame
> around all the time.
>
> Matthew Dillon is one of the few hackers worth his salt, what does he get
in
> return? A 5 day commit bit suspension. Matt, please, join NetBSD, they
need
> help in the SMP code, and leave all these hypocrites alone.
>
> David O'Brien -> good hacker but a total asshole
> Dag-Erling Smorgrav -> a total asshole
> Alfred Perlstein -> drunktard and hypocrite
> Bill Fumerola -> The überasshole, FUCK FUMEROLA
> Kris Kennaway -> Hyprocrite
> Hiten Pandya -> an IMBECILE, grow up fucking moron
>
> You all owe Terry Lambert an apology, stupid hypocrites.
>
> To the rest of the people, jump shit now, and join NetBSD while you can.
> FreeBSD is not worth the hassle.

right...
and to bring all these VILE people to public knowledge...you use a hotmail
addr and a name that we are supposed to see as 'witty' or 'clever'.

please don't take the silence from the people on the respeced boards you
decided to spam your email the wrong wayI'm sure most of us are shocked
into silence from the profound and insightful statements you have made.

well...that..or none of us really care what anonymous posters have to say.
duck that identity...make full use of the internet to hide the source of
your venting.

bill...alfred..was some kid denied a port or something to warrent this silly
temper tantrum? :)

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The problem with FreeBSD

2002-06-18 Thread Bill Flamerola

Okay, this is not really intended as a flame, but kinda necessary, given the 
current situation in the FreeBSD camp.

Let's see, some weeks ago a couple of people dropped their ports 
maintainership, why did this happen? Sergey dropped his ports because David 
O'Brien is an asshole. Yes, no news, we all know that. Asmodai resigned some 
days ago, why? Because fucking Bill Fumerola is a royal asshole. Has fucking 
Bill Fumerola ever done any worthwhile work for FreeBSD? NO. He prefers to 
spend his time flaming other people. FUCK YOU FUMEROLA!

Jordan Hubbard left, Mike Smith left. Why? Because a large number of the 
people involved in FreeBSD are either assholes or hypocrites. What's the 
prefered game in #bsdcode? Right, flaming Terry Lambert. Terry may not be 
perfect, but he has *never* insulted anyone, he's a nice person to talk to, 
and pretty often comes up with nice ideas. I'm talking to you, fucking Hiten 
Pandya, damned asshole. And I'm talking to you, stupid Alfred Perlstein. 
Alfred is an interesting person. He seems to be drunk most of the time, has 
never contributed anything important to the project, yet he likes to flame 
around all the time.

Matthew Dillon is one of the few hackers worth his salt, what does he get in 
return? A 5 day commit bit suspension. Matt, please, join NetBSD, they need 
help in the SMP code, and leave all these hypocrites alone.

David O'Brien -> good hacker but a total asshole
Dag-Erling Smorgrav -> a total asshole
Alfred Perlstein -> drunktard and hypocrite
Bill Fumerola -> The überasshole, FUCK FUMEROLA
Kris Kennaway -> Hyprocrite
Hiten Pandya -> an IMBECILE, grow up fucking moron

You all owe Terry Lambert an apology, stupid hypocrites.

To the rest of the people, jump shit now, and join NetBSD while you can. 
FreeBSD is not worth the hassle.



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Problem with FreeBSD/Apache!

1999-12-11 Thread Alexey Prohorenko

 Hello,
 
  I have some problem with Apache. I have few Apache modules (written by
 me), they are working with mySQL databases and based on Apache C API.
 They works perfectly well at my FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE with Apache 1.3.9 and 
 mySQL 3.22.25.
  When I upgrade my system to FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE (Apache 1.3.9/mySQL 3.22.25)
 I found that my modules DOES NOT work on it! httpd fails with error 11 (so
 no core dump created). Some modules works, but I big part -- not. They are
 using ap_internal_redirect () fucntion, so I checked everything -- may be
 I did some wrong pathnames? No. Then, I though that this is because I am using
 gcc/ld and do not use apxs. After using apxs no changes appeared -- still
 httpd fails! So, I decide to test one of my modules step-by-step. And I
 found that when I am calling for little function like this:
 
 void
 dummy (void)
 {
 }
 
 it fails!!! Why? I do not understand. May be you will help me with this
 problem?
 
 At this moment, I think that Apache (or FreeBSD) has problems with ELF
 binaries. May be Apache couldn't work with ELF binaries correctly?
 I do not know the reason.
 
 Thank you.
 Looking forward your answer.
 
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Re: Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-16 Thread Sheldon Hearn


On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:06:59 MST, Mike Smith wrote:

> > Actually, as with many such cases, the floppy disk driver turned out to
> > be flakey. We resolved this via private mail.
> 
> Driver, or drive?  The BIOS is the driver at this point in time.

Argh! Thanks. I meant the floppy drive.

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Re: Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn



On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:06:59 MST, Mike Smith wrote:

> > Actually, as with many such cases, the floppy disk driver turned out to
> > be flakey. We resolved this via private mail.
> 
> Driver, or drive?  The BIOS is the driver at this point in time.

Argh! Thanks. I meant the floppy drive.

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Re: Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-15 Thread Mike Smith
> > > FreeBSD write "zf_read: error".
> > 
> > Your mfsroot floppy has a bad sector.  Try a different floppy.
> 
> Actually, as with many such cases, the floppy disk driver turned out to
> be flakey. We resolved this via private mail.

Driver, or drive?  The BIOS is the driver at this point in time.

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Re: Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-15 Thread Mike Smith

> > > FreeBSD write "zf_read: error".
> > 
> > Your mfsroot floppy has a bad sector.  Try a different floppy.
> 
> Actually, as with many such cases, the floppy disk driver turned out to
> be flakey. We resolved this via private mail.

Driver, or drive?  The BIOS is the driver at this point in time.

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Re: Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn


On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:53:03 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:

> > FreeBSD write "zf_read: error".
> 
> Your mfsroot floppy has a bad sector.  Try a different floppy.

Actually, as with many such cases, the floppy disk driver turned out to
be flakey. We resolved this via private mail.

Something to keep in mind in future when you see this problem report.

If I see it again, I'll hack up an FAQ entry.

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Re: Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-15 Thread Sheldon Hearn



On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:53:03 -0400, John Baldwin wrote:

> > FreeBSD write "zf_read: error".
> 
> Your mfsroot floppy has a bad sector.  Try a different floppy.

Actually, as with many such cases, the floppy disk driver turned out to
be flakey. We resolved this via private mail.

Something to keep in mind in future when you see this problem report.

If I see it again, I'll hack up an FAQ entry.

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RE: Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-14 Thread John Baldwin


On 13-Sep-99 Tolyar wrote:
> Hello All.
> 
> I try install FreeBSD on HP Vectra VA/200DT - Pentium Pro/128Mb-RAM/
> Quantum Fireball CR 4.3Gb/CirrusLogic5446PCI PCI/NE2000.
> 
> When I try install FreeBSD (I'm tried
> 3.2-release/3.3-19990909-rc/snapshot-4.0-19990827-current)
> i have some trouble. On second floppy (mfsroot.flp) before kernel
> setup,
> FreeBSD write "zf_read: error". After this, I configured kernel (i
> kept only fdc0, wdc0, atkbd0, sc0)
> and when system wrote "changing root device to fd0c" and after this
> "rootfs is 2880Kbyte compiled in MFS" system stilled and doesn't run
> install proces, but "Pause" key and scrolling was working.

Your mfsroot floppy has a bad sector.  Try a different floppy.

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RE: Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-14 Thread John Baldwin

On 13-Sep-99 Tolyar wrote:
> Hello All.
> 
> I try install FreeBSD on HP Vectra VA/200DT - Pentium Pro/128Mb-RAM/
> Quantum Fireball CR 4.3Gb/CirrusLogic5446PCI PCI/NE2000.
> 
> When I try install FreeBSD (I'm tried
> 3.2-release/3.3-19990909-rc/snapshot-4.0-19990827-current)
> i have some trouble. On second floppy (mfsroot.flp) before kernel
> setup,
> FreeBSD write "zf_read: error". After this, I configured kernel (i
> kept only fdc0, wdc0, atkbd0, sc0)
> and when system wrote "changing root device to fd0c" and after this
> "rootfs is 2880Kbyte compiled in MFS" system stilled and doesn't run
> install proces, but "Pause" key and scrolling was working.

Your mfsroot floppy has a bad sector.  Try a different floppy.

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Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-13 Thread Tolyar

Hello All.

I try install FreeBSD on HP Vectra VA/200DT - Pentium Pro/128Mb-RAM/
Quantum Fireball CR 4.3Gb/CirrusLogic5446PCI PCI/NE2000.

When I try install FreeBSD (I'm tried 
3.2-release/3.3-19990909-rc/snapshot-4.0-19990827-current)
i have some trouble. On second floppy (mfsroot.flp) before kernel setup,
FreeBSD write "zf_read: error". After this, I configured kernel (i kept only fdc0, 
wdc0, atkbd0, sc0)
and when system wrote "changing root device to fd0c" and after this
"rootfs is 2880Kbyte compiled in MFS" system stilled and doesn't run
install proces, but "Pause" key and scrolling was working.


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Problem with FreeBSD

1999-09-13 Thread Tolyar
Hello All.

I try install FreeBSD on HP Vectra VA/200DT - Pentium Pro/128Mb-RAM/
Quantum Fireball CR 4.3Gb/CirrusLogic5446PCI PCI/NE2000.

When I try install FreeBSD (I'm tried 
3.2-release/3.3-19990909-rc/snapshot-4.0-19990827-current)
i have some trouble. On second floppy (mfsroot.flp) before kernel setup,
FreeBSD write "zf_read: error". After this, I configured kernel (i kept only 
fdc0, wdc0, atkbd0, sc0)
and when system wrote "changing root device to fd0c" and after this
"rootfs is 2880Kbyte compiled in MFS" system stilled and doesn't run
install proces, but "Pause" key and scrolling was working.


Best regards,
Zherdev Anatoly  tol...@ru.ru




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