Re: VMware--anyone playing with it?
On Mon, 17 May 1999 23:40:03 +0200 Andreas Braukmann braukm...@tse-online.de wrote: ... and the Connectix Virtual PC is available for FreeBSD? No, it's a MacOS program. that's for sure, ... from a theoretically point of view at least. But I suppose, that the virtual machine approach would lead to more performant designs? dunno... the VirtualPC certainly didn't seem to have any performance shortcomings. And, on a 350MHz PowerPC G3, who cares if it's emulated at the instruction level? -- Jason R. Thorpe thor...@nas.nasa.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware--anyone playing with it?
On 15 May 1999 at 20:08, John Jennifer Reynolds jreyn...@primenet.com wrote: [snip] Is anyone playing with that VMware stuff? [snip] It doesn't run on FreeBSD, only on Linux and Windows NT. Pity, because it is very neat. Jacques Vidrine / n...@nectar.cc / nec...@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware--anyone playing with it?
John Jennifer Reynolds wrote: http://www.vmware.com Is anyone playing with that VMware stuff? They say they have tested FreeBSD 2.2.8, 3.0, and 3.1 as guest OS's when using the linux software (whatever that means :) ... just wondering if anybody has messed with this. Sure would be nice to have it run under FreeBSD so I could use those occasionally-needed Windud apps that I keep my Win98 partition around for ... When the beta was first announced, there was a small but concerted effort amongst readers of this list to send mail to VMWare requesting that they consider supporting FreeBSD as a host O/S, not just a guest O/S. So, add your voice and send them some mail... -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: g...@cdsec.com Citadel Data Security Phone: +27(21)423-6065/6/7 Firewalls/Virtual Private Networks Fax:+27(21)24-3656 Internet/Intranet Network Specialists Data Security Products WWW:http://www.cdsec.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware--anyone playing with it?
On Mon, 17 May 1999 01:11:40 -0500 Jacques Vidrine n...@nectar.cc wrote: It doesn't run on FreeBSD, only on Linux and Windows NT. Pity, because it is very neat. I think the Connectix Virtual PC is cooler; VMware only runs on Linux and NT because it requires gross hacks to redirect e.g. I/O space access. Really, a full emulator is more interesting than a virtual machine. -- Jason R. Thorpe thor...@nas.nasa.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware--anyone playing with it?
On 17 May 1999 at 8:19, Jason Thorpe thor...@nas.nasa.gov wrote: I think the Connectix Virtual PC is cooler; VMware only runs on Linux and NT because it requires gross hacks to redirect e.g. I/O space access. I haven't seen it... do you have a reference? Jacques Vidrine / n...@nectar.cc / nec...@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
RE: VMware--anyone playing with it?
http://www.connectix.com/html/connectix_virtualpc.html -Original Message- From: Jacques Vidrine [mailto:n...@nectar.cc] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:12 PM To: Jason Thorpe Cc: John Jennifer Reynolds; freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VMware--anyone playing with it? On 17 May 1999 at 8:19, Jason Thorpe thor...@nas.nasa.gov wrote: I think the Connectix Virtual PC is cooler; VMware only runs on Linux and NT because it requires gross hacks to redirect e.g. I/O space access. I haven't seen it... do you have a reference? Jacques Vidrine / n...@nectar.cc / nec...@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware--anyone playing with it?
On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 03:22:31PM -0600, Charles Randall wrote: http://www.connectix.com/html/connectix_virtualpc.html But this only runs on the Mac, right? -Original Message- From: Jacques Vidrine [mailto:n...@nectar.cc] Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:12 PM To: Jason Thorpe Cc: John Jennifer Reynolds; freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VMware--anyone playing with it? On 17 May 1999 at 8:19, Jason Thorpe thor...@nas.nasa.gov wrote: I think the Connectix Virtual PC is cooler; VMware only runs on Linux and NT because it requires gross hacks to redirect e.g. I/O space access. I haven't seen it... do you have a reference? Jacques Vidrine / n...@nectar.cc / nec...@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware--anyone playing with it?
Hi Jason, On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 08:19:25AM -0700, Jason Thorpe wrote: On Mon, 17 May 1999 01:11:40 -0500 It doesn't run on FreeBSD, only on Linux and Windows NT. Pity, because it is very neat. I think the Connectix Virtual PC is cooler; VMware only runs on Linux and NT because it requires gross hacks to redirect e.g. I/O space access. ... and the Connectix Virtual PC is available for FreeBSD? Really, a full emulator is more interesting than a virtual machine. that's for sure, ... from a theoretically point of view at least. But I suppose, that the virtual machine approach would lead to more performant designs? -Andreas -- : TSE TeleService GmbH : Gsf: Arne Reuter: : : Hovestrasse 14: Andreas Braukmann : We do it with : : D-48351 Everswinkel : HRB: 1430, AG WAF : FreeBSD/SMP: :: : Anti-Spam Petition: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/: : PGP-Key:http://www.tse-online.de/~ab/public-key: : Key fingerprint: 12 13 EF BC 22 DD F4 B6 3C 25 C9 06 DC D3 45 9B : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
RE: VMware--anyone playing with it?
From: Joe Abley [mailto:jab...@clear.co.nz] http://www.connectix.com/html/connectix_virtualpc.html But this only runs on the Mac, right? Seems like it. I think that Jason was only commenting on the coolness factor when compared to VMWare. Although I haven't tried it, VMWare seems damn cool while still maintaining somewhat reasonable performance because it ISN'T an emulator. -Charles - Thinking of installing Linux just to try the VMWare beta. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware--anyone playing with it?
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Graham Wheeler wrote: When the beta was first announced, there was a small but concerted effort amongst readers of this list to send mail to VMWare requesting that they consider supporting FreeBSD as a host O/S, not just a guest O/S. So, add your voice and send them some mail... The latest update which has arrived in my inbox states the following in the changelog: o Support for FreeBSD 3.0 and 3.1 guest operating systems o Support for OpenBSD and BSD/OS 4.0 guest operating systems (experimental) Which is still not as good as host support, but it indicates they at least are willing to support us. Perhaps down the track we'll see FreeBSD host support. Kris - That suit's sharper than a page of Oscar Wilde witticisms that's been rolled up into a point, sprinkled with lemon juice and jabbed into someone's eye Wow, that's sharp! - Ace Rimmer and the Cat, _Red Dwarf_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message