Re: Another EPIA M 9000 update (was Re: More compartive power/performance results (was Re: Lower power SMP boxes?))

2003-02-11 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I don't understand why these companies don't just
> include sources for their X drivers, it would make life so much easier.

Usually it's because they (wrongly) think it will protect their
trade secrets from competitors.

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Re: Another EPIA M 9000 update (was Re: More compartive power/performance results (was Re: Lower power SMP boxes?))

2003-02-10 Thread Darryl Okahata
Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Summary:
> 
>   EPIA M 9000 17-25W
>   EPIA M E600016-22W
>   EPIA 80011-20W
>   EPIA 5000   9-15W   (5W idle, 15W playing DVD)
> 
> (this is non-inclusive of any hard drives)

 That's not bad (taking into account the lack of hard drives).

 For comparison purposes, here are a couple of random data points:

[ NOTE: the following *includes* power consumption by hard drives, etc.,
  but no monitor.  ]

System #1:  ~70W
333MHz Celeron (66MHz FSB), 384MB RAM, Abit BH6 motherboard
Some generic ATI Rage-based video card
10GB IBM drive (might be 60GXP -- I've forgotten)
Two Maxtor DiamondMax 7200RPM 120GB drives
Promise Ultra100 TX2
Intel Pro 100/S LAN
Some generic DVDROM drive, floppy
No extra cooling fans (yet?)

System #2:  ~170W (~200W+ with 100% CPU & 3D rendering)
Athlon 2100XP, 768MB PC2100 RAM (slow ;-(), Asus a7v8x motherboard
Nvidia GeForce4 Ti200 video card, w/128MB
LeadTek WinFast TV2000XP TV card
60GB IBM drive (60GXP, I think)
40GB Maxtor DiamondMax drive
Plextor 12/10/32 CDRW
Pioneer DVDROM, floppy
Intel Pro 100/S LAN
One extra cooling fan (in addition to the two in the power
supply).

Power was measured using an actual wattmeter, and not via an ampmeter
(although, as modern PC power supplies supposed are now supposed to be
power-factor-corrected, an ampmeter can give good results).

-- 
Darryl Okahata
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Re: Another EPIA M 9000 update (was Re: More compartive power/performance results (was Re: Lower power SMP boxes?))

2003-02-10 Thread Matthew Dillon
I tried that.  It got close.  *very* close to running, but the via
driver has two dependancies on libddmpeg (which is also supplied on the
CD).  Unfortunately libddmpeg depends on libc.so.6.

I can shim the two dependancies into via_drv.o but the via driver still
tries to load libddmpeg and X faults out with an error.  I need to
dummy-up libddmpeg somehow.

-Matt
Matthew Dillon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 


:On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:
:> :I can't find any online specs to tell me if the graphics part of the
:> :Northbridge has understands the VESA stuff.  Does the XFree86 "vesa"
:> :driver work?
:> :
:> :Also found this forum discussion...
:> :
:> :http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=30617
:> 
:> M 9000 X11 update:
:> 
:> The "vga" driver works in low resolution modes.  The "vesa" driver
:> does not work.  Via has a linux driver on their CD for X, called "via",
:> which linux people seem to be using successfully, but I can't find
:> sources anywhere.  I don't understand why these companies don't just
:> include sources for their X drivers, it would make life so much easier.
:
:
:Try use the linux binary...
:believe it or not the latest XFree86 release has a loadable driver
:interface that is completely cross-OS compatible. I.e the drivers
:can not call any external calls only those provided by teh OS-specific
:framework into which they are loaded.
: 
:Something that they have done very right..
:I've seen several manufacturer supplied drivers for "Linux" work under
:FreeBSD.
: (!)
:
:julian

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Re: Another EPIA M 9000 update (was Re: More compartive power/performance results (was Re: Lower power SMP boxes?))

2003-02-10 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Le Monday 10 February 2003 21:51, Joe O a écrit :
> If the linux XFree86 4.x driver was correctly written you should be able
> to dump it into /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers and use it.
>
> One of the goals with XFree86 4.x was that the X server modules be OS
> independent.
>

Indeed, that's how I got XVideo working on my neomagic : this OS-independant 
dynamic module linking is really a good thing

Tfh

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Re: Another EPIA M 9000 update (was Re: More compartive power/performance results (was Re: Lower power SMP boxes?))

2003-02-09 Thread Matthew Dillon
An additional note on the M 9000.  I have not been able to get X11 to
run on it yet.  It uses a chipset that X doesn't seem to understand
(beyond basic VGA modes).

-Matt

:   Firewire
:
:Another EPIA M 9000 update.  The built-in firewire works flawlessly under
:..
:
:   Power consumption
:
:I also found a document that gave definitive power consumption
:for various EPIA systems:
:
:   http://www.viamainboard.com/product/3/4/EPIA%20M%20Operating%20Guidelines.pdf
:
:Summary:
:
:   EPIA M 9000 17-25W
:   EPIA M E600016-22W
:   EPIA 80011-20W
:   EPIA 5000   9-15W   (5W idle, 15W playing DVD)

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