Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 06:42:58PM +0100, Thorsten Futrega wrote: really tired of dealing with O'Brien ^^^ Thanks for getting the spelling right, too many people don't. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
On Thu, 29 May 2003, [iso-8859-1] Thorsten Futrega wrote: Dear users, The most important changes I'm going to commit today: - Remove gcc and replace it with a new TenDRA snapshot. yay! but what about c++ support? - Remove GNU tar. double yay! - Fix httpd.ko to make it work on buggy AMD processors. - Drop support for 386 and 486 cpus. - Remove ext2 support (GPL encumbered). - Add perl 5.8 *and* python 2.2 to base. - Remove Sendmail and replace it with Postfix. mostly yawn... If anyone has any reason why these should not be committed, I'll give a 5 hours grace time. Send replies to the list. Thank you. Thorsten and the rest or the release engineering team. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
On Fri, 30 May 2003, Narvi wrote: [snip] Ahem.. i am very embarrassed about having sent the reply, everybody please pretend I was nowhere near the thread, pretty please? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
On the tune of some cute Ramones song... Beat on the Troll Beat on the Troll Beat on the Troll With a baseball bat Oh yeah! Oh yeah! Oh yeah! A. On Thu May 29, 2003 at 06:18:42PM +0100, Thorsten Futrega wrote: Dear users, The HEAD code freeze was extended by three days to allow for some final pending work to be committed and prepare 5.1 to be a good release. The code freeze will likely end sometime tomorrow, May 30. We ask that large scale changes still be deferred until after 5.1 is actually released so that any problems can be dealt with. The release engineering team will send out emails explicitely stating when HEAD has thawed and when large changes like new compilers and dynamic-linked worlds can go it. The most important changes I'm going to commit today: - Remove gcc and replace it with a new TenDRA snapshot. - Remove GNU tar. - Fix httpd.ko to make it work on buggy AMD processors. - Drop support for 386 and 486 cpus. - Remove ext2 support (GPL encumbered). - Add perl 5.8 *and* python 2.2 to base. - Remove Sendmail and replace it with Postfix. If anyone has any reason why these should not be committed, I'll give a 5 hours grace time. Send replies to the list. Thank you. Thorsten and the rest or the release engineering team. __ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Seul a un caractère scientifique ce qui peut être réfuté. Ce qui n'est pas réfutable relève de la magie ou de la mystique. - Popper, Karl pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
--- The Anarcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the tune of some cute Ramones song... Beat on the Troll Beat on the Troll Beat on the Troll With a baseball bat Oh yeah! Oh yeah! Oh yeah! Erm, this is not really funny. I'm trying to do my job the best I can. Do you think being on core@ and having to deal with all these politics is fun? I'm honestly burning out. I might leave, like Mike Smith did. Hell, I might even be quoted on those slashdot *BSD trolls. Listen, all these changes are necessary if we are to ever have a production ready system. I'm really tired of dealing with O'Brien, Fumerolas, Mallet and other committers who can't understand simple facts. Do you think you can do better? Go for it. What I'm trying to do is get a decent release this time. Guess FreeBSD is now about politics and not about high quality code anymore. Too bad. Thorsten __ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
The HEAD code freeze was extended by three days to allow for some final pending work to be committed and prepare 5.1 to be a good release. The code freeze will likely end sometime tomorrow, May 30. We ask that large scale changes still be deferred until after 5.1 is actually released so that any problems can be dealt with. The release engineering team will send out emails explicitely stating when HEAD has thawed and when large changes like new compilers and dynamic-linked worlds can go it. The most important changes I'm going to commit today: - Remove gcc and replace it with a new TenDRA snapshot. I'm just wondering... but is there a reason why gcc is being replaced? Is there a page or a previous list mail that explains the reasons? URL? Thanks. - Remove GNU tar. - Fix httpd.ko to make it work on buggy AMD processors. - Drop support for 386 and 486 cpus. - Remove ext2 support (GPL encumbered). - Add perl 5.8 *and* python 2.2 to base. - Remove Sendmail and replace it with Postfix. If anyone has any reason why these should not be committed, I'll give a 5 hours grace time. Send replies to the list. Thank you. Thorsten and the rest or the release engineering team. Thanks Ken ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
For the benefit of the majority: This post was FAKE. Now please return to your regularly scheduled discussion and kindly ignore all future posts to this thread. -Bosko On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 01:50:33PM -0400, Kenneth Culver wrote: The HEAD code freeze was extended by three days to allow for some final pending work to be committed and prepare 5.1 to be a good release. The code freeze will likely end sometime tomorrow, May 30. We ask that large scale changes still be deferred until after 5.1 is actually released so that any problems can be dealt with. The release engineering team will send out emails explicitely stating when HEAD has thawed and when large changes like new compilers and dynamic-linked worlds can go it. The most important changes I'm going to commit today: - Remove gcc and replace it with a new TenDRA snapshot. I'm just wondering... but is there a reason why gcc is being replaced? Is there a page or a previous list mail that explains the reasons? URL? Thanks. - Remove GNU tar. - Fix httpd.ko to make it work on buggy AMD processors. - Drop support for 386 and 486 cpus. - Remove ext2 support (GPL encumbered). - Add perl 5.8 *and* python 2.2 to base. - Remove Sendmail and replace it with Postfix. If anyone has any reason why these should not be committed, I'll give a 5 hours grace time. Send replies to the list. Thank you. Thorsten and the rest or the release engineering team. Thanks Ken ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bosko Milekic [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
Thorsten Futrega wrote: The most important changes I'm going to commit today: - Remove gcc and replace it with a new TenDRA snapshot. - Remove GNU tar. I really don't see a need for any version of tar to be in the base system. I mean, where does it actually get used (other than things like installation, which don't really matter). - Fix httpd.ko to make it work on buggy AMD processors. - Drop support for 386 and 486 cpus. Shouldn't we also drop support for the earlier pentium systems as well? I think that we can safely assume that everyone is running a pentium 4 or better. - Remove ext2 support (GPL encumbered). Remove ffs support also (BSD license encumbered). - Add perl 5.8 *and* python 2.2 to base. I agree - perl makes a perfect replacement for tar. - Remove Sendmail and replace it with Postfix. I prefer USPS. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
At 2003-05-29T18:04:08Z, Stephen Montgomery-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shouldn't we also drop support for the earlier pentium systems as well? I think that we can safely assume that everyone is running a pentium 4 or better. Intel? Bah! I use only AMD, so I think that CPUTYPE=k7 is a reasonable cutoff. - Add perl 5.8 *and* python 2.2 to base. I agree - perl makes a perfect replacement for tar. I strongly disagree. We already have csh - anything else is just frilly. -- Kirk Strauser pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
--- Stephen Montgomery-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thorsten Futrega wrote: - Remove GNU tar. I really don't see a need for any version of tar to be in the base system. I It's not needed if we have pax, and GNU tar generates broken tar files that can't be extracted with, e.g. NetBSD pax or Solaris' tar. Shouldn't we also drop support for the earlier pentium systems as well? I think That's certainly planned for 6.0 - Add perl 5.8 *and* python 2.2 to base. I agree - perl makes a perfect replacement for tar. You've showed me in the past that you have zero respect for both the project and the community, so , please, go back to your troll cave. Thorsten __ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
Please go away. Thorsten Futrega wrote: --- Stephen Montgomery-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thorsten Futrega wrote: - Remove GNU tar. I really don't see a need for any version of tar to be in the base system. I It's not needed if we have pax, and GNU tar generates broken tar files that can't be extracted with, e.g. NetBSD pax or Solaris' tar. Shouldn't we also drop support for the earlier pentium systems as well? I think That's certainly planned for 6.0 - Add perl 5.8 *and* python 2.2 to base. I agree - perl makes a perfect replacement for tar. You've showed me in the past that you have zero respect for both the project and the community, so , please, go back to your troll cave. Thorsten __ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
--- Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please go away. Scott, learn how to quote. Only Outlook users do top quoting. Then we'll talk about the myriad of crap patches you committed and I had to back out to reach minimal stability before code freeze. Thank you. Thorsten. __ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon
To all interested parties... THIS WHOLE THREAD IS GARBAGE, PLEASE DISREGARD IT. IT IS A HOAX STARTED BY A GOOD-FOR-NOTHING TROLL. THERE IS NO Thorsten Futrega IN -CORE AND THERE ARE NO PLANS A LONG THE LINES THAT HE LISTED ORIGINALLY. P.S. Troll: Stop, or atleast move this to -chat Thank you for your time... On Thu, 29 May 2003 20:22:50 +0100 (BST) Thorsten Futrega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please go away. Scott, learn how to quote. Only Outlook users do top quoting. Then we'll talk about the myriad of crap patches you committed and I had to back out to reach minimal stability before code freeze. Thank you. Thorsten. __ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
