Re: Seeking recommendations for backup system

2001-05-24 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 08:28:49AM +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote:

 used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and FreeBSD
 4.3-STABLE.
 
 Dunno what LTO is, my Amanda server is FBSD 4.3

Linear Tape Open. Some industry-standard-to-be that wants to replace DLT.

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Re: Seeking recommendations for backup system

2001-05-24 Thread Matthew Jacob


You should note that there *is* a NetWorker freebsd client for both i386 and
alpha. But it's getting moldy. No, no server on FreeBSD yet.

 I'm seeking recommendation for a backup system (software) that can be
 used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and FreeBSD
 4.3-STABLE.
 
 I'm sure we could roll our based on freely available tools (eg. Amanda)
 - but by now I'm used to Tivoli ADSM/TSM, and *like* the convenience
 ADSM/TSM offers.  We need the ability to make backups (via Fast Ethernet)
 primarily of FreeBSD servers, but also Solaris, Linux and HP-UX. Easy
 restore is important.
 
 (So why not buy TSM again? Primarily the price. We'll do it if we have to,
 but would prefer something slightly less expensive and also less complex.)
 
 Any takers?
 
 Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: Seeking recommendations for backup system

2001-05-24 Thread Chris Shenton

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 I'm seeking recommendation for a backup system (software) that can be
 used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and FreeBSD
 4.3-STABLE.
 
 I'm sure we could roll our based on freely available tools (eg. Amanda)
 - but by now I'm used to Tivoli ADSM/TSM, and *like* the convenience
 ADSM/TSM offers.  We need the ability to make backups (via Fast Ethernet)
 primarily of FreeBSD servers, but also Solaris, Linux and HP-UX. Easy
 restore is important.

Been using Amanda to backup a few FreeBSD 3.x, 4.x and Slowaris boxes,
no problems; my drive is a 4xDDS2 python.  There's an ftp-ish client
for specifying files/dirs to restore which works OK, though it always
takes me a little while to get used to the options I have to
specify.  Had to do a major restore when I lost an entire disk -- was
*very* happy Amanda had been doing its thing, automatically, every
night. :-)

I like the fact that Amanda stores in a slightly enhanced dump
format, just prepending a label to each tape, and a directory entry to
each file.  If you really lose everything, you can do some mt fsf to
get to the right tape file, then a dd to skip the header, then
finally a restore to copy the data to disk.  I believe Legato uses a
proprietary tape format so if you're hosed you have to restore Legato
before you can restore the tape.

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Re: Seeking recommendations for backup system

2001-05-24 Thread Chris Dillon

On Thu, 24 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm seeking recommendation for a backup system (software) that can
 be used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and
 FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE.

 I'm sure we could roll our based on freely available tools (eg.
 Amanda) - but by now I'm used to Tivoli ADSM/TSM, and *like* the
 convenience ADSM/TSM offers.  We need the ability to make backups
 (via Fast Ethernet) primarily of FreeBSD servers, but also
 Solaris, Linux and HP-UX. Easy restore is important.

 (So why not buy TSM again? Primarily the price. We'll do it if we
 have to, but would prefer something slightly less expensive and
 also less complex.)

I just mentioned this to someone else who asked a similar question
elsewhere, but Veritas NetBackup (NOT BackupExec -- different animal)
has a native FreeBSD 3.2 agent that works very well on FreeBSD 3.2 and
up (I use it with 4.3-STABLE at the moment).  They've got backup
agents for a whole mess of platforms.  You can also use any
combination of NT, Solaris, Linux, and HP-UX servers.  You've pretty
much got the run of the park on that one. :-)

If you call up Veritas, they should be more than happy to send you a
time-limited (90 days, IIRC) demo.  I asked for one before we decided
to buy it and they shipped the CDs and demo license keys to me
next-day.  :-)


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Re: Seeking recommendations for backup system

2001-05-23 Thread Olivier Nicole

Hi Steinar,

I'm sure we could roll our based on freely available tools (eg. Amanda)
- but by now I'm used to Tivoli ADSM/TSM, and *like* the convenience
ADSM/TSM offers.  We need the ability to make backups (via Fast Ethernet)
primarily of FreeBSD servers, but also Solaris, Linux and HP-UX. Easy
restore is important.

Amanda works well, tho I did not had to check on restore yet :) I
think the restore works a bit like retore(8) does. You select the
files you want from a list then extract, and it will prompt you for
the tapes (or get them from your tape charger).

One good point, the user list is *active*, developpers do answer
questions, even stupid questions that could be solved by RTFM (I did
ask such question :)

I had it compiled on FreeBSD (various flavors), Solaris (old,
including SunOS 4.1). I heard there is issue with older Linux kernel.

used with a decent sized tape library, probably LTO based, and FreeBSD
4.3-STABLE.

Dunno what LTO is, my Amanda server is FBSD 4.3

According to a friend, best commercial would be by Veritas, tho their
FreeBSD client is old (3.3).

Best regards,

Olivier

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