RE: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
Do we have a format utility, similar to format in Solaris. This makes it easier to ident the C code. Regards, Abhay -Original Message- From: Peter Wemm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:32 AM To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: Simon L. Nielsen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD Jordan Hubbard wrote: Wow, deja-vu! Hey! I've got a GREAT idea! I whipped up this nifty perl script and I can run it over the src tree to delete all the trailing whitespace! And even better, I can collapse tabs at the beginning of lines! What a great deal! That should be good for a few hundred commits! :-) - Jordan On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: Hello I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line). Should I send patches for this, or is it not important to fix? A random example is stdbool.h v. 1.6 on line 30 which has a trailing tab. -- Simon L. Nielsen mime-attachment To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
On 2003.02.10 17:41:47 -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line). Wow, deja-vu! /me runs and hides for not checking the achieves first :-) -- Simon L. Nielsen msg39895/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
Heh, bet you didn't know that bento's predecessor was called thud. And we had a 'ripcord' for a while too. I just dont remember exactly which machine it became. I think it was a temporary name for the machine that became hub. Don't forget gndrsh, which was freefall's replacement (and later became freefall). Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
Wow, deja-vu! Hey! I've got a GREAT idea! I whipped up this nifty perl script and I can run it over the src tree to delete all the trailing whitespace! And even better, I can collapse tabs at the beginning of lines! What a great deal! That should be good for a few hundred commits! Gofer it! Make sure to forward your commit email to Rod when you're done. :) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
On Monday 10 February 2003 06:00 pm, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: Hello I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line). Should I send patches for this, or is it not important to fix? A random example is stdbool.h v. 1.6 on line 30 which has a trailing tab. I believe a similar topic came up before : http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8threadm=fa.gn23hlv.1h46h1l%40ifi.uio.nornum=1prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26q%3Dwhitespace%2Bfreebsd%2Bat%2Bend%2Bof%2Bline%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch -Amit To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
Wow, deja-vu! - Jordan On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: Hello I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line). Should I send patches for this, or is it not important to fix? A random example is stdbool.h v. 1.6 on line 30 which has a trailing tab. -- Simon L. Nielsen mime-attachment To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
Jordan Hubbard wrote: Wow, deja-vu! Hey! I've got a GREAT idea! I whipped up this nifty perl script and I can run it over the src tree to delete all the trailing whitespace! And even better, I can collapse tabs at the beginning of lines! What a great deal! That should be good for a few hundred commits! :-) - Jordan On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: Hello I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line). Should I send patches for this, or is it not important to fix? A random example is stdbool.h v. 1.6 on line 30 which has a trailing tab. -- Simon L. Nielsen mime-attachment To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
Um, is the sarcasm needed? The guy really does want to know if this would be helpful or not.. On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Peter Wemm wrote: Jordan Hubbard wrote: Wow, deja-vu! Hey! I've got a GREAT idea! I whipped up this nifty perl script and I can run it over the src tree to delete all the trailing whitespace! And even better, I can collapse tabs at the beginning of lines! What a great deal! That should be good for a few hundred commits! :-) - Jordan On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: Hello I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line). Should I send patches for this, or is it not important to fix? A random example is stdbool.h v. 1.6 on line 30 which has a trailing tab. -- Simon L. Nielsen mime-attachment To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
Peter Wemm wrote: Jordan Hubbard wrote: Wow, deja-vu! Hey! I've got a GREAT idea! I whipped up this nifty perl script and I can run it over the src tree to delete all the trailing whitespace! And even better, I can collapse tabs at the beginning of lines! What a great deal! That should be good for a few hundred commits! :-) No, no! We should run GNU indent on all code, as it's committed, with a BDE-filter and FlexiLint on it! That will fix *everything*, since there is no such thing as a logic bug! -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line). Should I send patches for this, or is it not important to fix? It might be nice to fix, in some abstract sense, but it drives developers nuts if you modify a file that they've checked out a local copy of. They go to commit their change back in (a change which is usually something more significant than a damn trailing blank or tab character), and the commit runs into a conflict because someone else has cleaned up the source code. So, this is something that a developer might want to do if they are going to be working on some source file anyway. However, it can really irritate a lot of developers if it is done across the entire src tree just because it is easy to do. Further, IMO it doesn't really help the FreeBSD project at all. Imagine a new release which said And now with less blanks in the source code! for the release notes. Our end-users would think we are nuts. It is better to tackle a harder project -- one which has an actual payback to the end users -- instead of looking for something this easy to do. Just my 2 cents. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
If you take up sky-diving* and chain-smoking next, we're gonna be REALLY worried** about you, Peter! - Jordan * Obligatory trivia: I wonder how many remember that freefall was named after Rod's passion for the sport ** Not that we aren't already. On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 06:01 PM, Peter Wemm wrote: Jordan Hubbard wrote: Wow, deja-vu! Hey! I've got a GREAT idea! I whipped up this nifty perl script and I can run it over the src tree to delete all the trailing whitespace! And even better, I can collapse tabs at the beginning of lines! What a great deal! That should be good for a few hundred commits! :-) - Jordan On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: Hello I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line). Should I send patches for this, or is it not important to fix? A random example is stdbool.h v. 1.6 on line 30 which has a trailing tab. -- Simon L. Nielsen mime-attachment To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message -- Jordan K. Hubbard Engineering Manager, BSD technology group Apple Computer To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
Needed? Probably not. But look at it this way - he's learned a lot more about FreeBSD project history and why this one's such an exposed nerve in the process than he probably ever would have otherwise. Did he want to learn this? Well, we'll just have to let him answer that for himself. :) - Jordan On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 06:17 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: Um, is the sarcasm needed? The guy really does want to know if this would be helpful or not.. On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Peter Wemm wrote: Jordan Hubbard wrote: Wow, deja-vu! Hey! I've got a GREAT idea! I whipped up this nifty perl script and I can run it over the src tree to delete all the trailing whitespace! And even better, I can collapse tabs at the beginning of lines! What a great deal! That should be good for a few hundred commits! :-) - Jordan On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: Hello I have noticed that that several FreeBSD files (.c, .h and so on) have trailing whitespace (spaces/tabs after last charecter on a line). Should I send patches for this, or is it not important to fix? A random example is stdbool.h v. 1.6 on line 30 which has a trailing tab. -- Simon L. Nielsen mime-attachment To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message -- Jordan K. Hubbard Engineering Manager, BSD technology group Apple Computer To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Jordan K Hubbard wrote: * Obligatory trivia: I wonder how many remember that freefall was named after Rod's passion for the sport I've always wondered about that... unfortunately, the answer is much less exciting than I had expected it to be. THANKS FOR RUINING MY BELIEFS ABOUT FREEBSD, JORDAN. /me goes off in search of a new hobby with new mysteries. Mike Silby Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
THANKS FOR RUINING MY BELIEFS ABOUT FREEBSD, JORDAN. Hahaha Take that, Silbersack's beliefs! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:08:59AM -0500, northern snowfall wrote: THANKS FOR RUINING MY BELIEFS ABOUT FREEBSD, JORDAN. Hahaha Take that, Silbersack's beliefs! Why, they've been sacked. *duck* Brandon D. Valentine -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geekpunk.net We've been raised on replicas of fake and winding roads, and day after day up on this beautiful stage we've been playing tambourine for minimum wage, but we are real; I know we are real. -- David Berman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Trailing whitespace in FreeBSD
Mike Silbersack wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Jordan K Hubbard wrote: * Obligatory trivia: I wonder how many remember that freefall was named after Rod's passion for the sport I've always wondered about that... unfortunately, the answer is much less exciting than I had expected it to be. THANKS FOR RUINING MY BELIEFS ABOUT FREEBSD, JORDAN. Heh, bet you didn't know that bento's predecessor was called thud. And we had a 'ripcord' for a while too. I just dont remember exactly which machine it became. I think it was a temporary name for the machine that became hub. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
