Re: Running unattended (ifo FFS thread)

1999-11-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

Kevin Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The problem is that 'fsck -py' ignores the 'p' and will fsck every time,
 even if it's unneeded. This takes ages for me. I believe I submitted a PR
 with a 'fix' to fsck.

'fsck -p || fsck -y' should do the trick.

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Re: Running unattended (ifo FFS thread)

1999-11-07 Thread Jesper Skriver

On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 04:57:54PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
 Kevin Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The problem is that 'fsck -py' ignores the 'p' and will fsck every time,
  even if it's unneeded. This takes ages for me. I believe I submitted a PR
  with a 'fix' to fsck.
 
 'fsck -p || fsck -y' should do the trick.

What about at rc.conf knob, that make /etc/rc use this instead of the
normal fsck -p ??

This could be useful for servers at remote sites.

Should I submit a PR with a diff ?

/Jesper

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Re: Running unattended (ifo FFS thread)

1999-10-29 Thread Anthony Kimball

Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
: 
: The problem is that 'fsck -py' ignores the 'p' and will fsck every time,
: even if it's unneeded. This takes ages for me. I believe I submitted a PR
: with a 'fix' to fsck.
: 
: According to the man page, fsck -y and fsck -p are two distincts commands.

Here's a patch to fix the man page as well then:

*** fsck.8.~1~  Fri Oct 29 11:42:04 1999
--- fsck.8  Fri Oct 29 11:43:30 1999
***
*** 109,115 
  .Nm
  with the
  .Fl p
! option will correct; if it encounters other inconsistencies, it exits
  with an abnormal return status and an automatic reboot will then fail.
  For each corrected inconsistency one or more lines will be printed
  identifying the filesystem on which the correction will take place,
--- 109,117 
  .Nm
  with the
  .Fl p
! option will correct, in the absence of the 
! .Fl y
! option; if it encounters other inconsistencies, it exits
  with an abnormal return status and an automatic reboot will then fail.
  For each corrected inconsistency one or more lines will be printed
  identifying the filesystem on which the correction will take place,




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RE: Running unattended (ifo FFS thread)

1999-10-27 Thread Daniel O'Connor


On 27-Oct-99 Remy Nonnenmacher wrote:
  In followup of the FFS thread, I would like to know if there are some
  recommendations for running unattended machines. For exemple, avoiding
  the 'run fsck manually' (for exemple, when co-locating a machine far
  away where it is not possible to get a console login).

Well.. (and I know lots of people would say this is stupid) If you are going to
run it in isolation, then you can change the inital fsck so that it just
assumes yes for all user input in an error condition..

This means that it generally always gets through the fsck.. Of course if fsck
had to delete files then they're gone, but if you value its ability to stay up
without human intervention its handy.

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Re: Running unattended (ifo FFS thread)

1999-10-27 Thread Kevin Day

 
 
 On 27-Oct-99 Remy Nonnenmacher wrote:
   In followup of the FFS thread, I would like to know if there are some
   recommendations for running unattended machines. For exemple, avoiding
   the 'run fsck manually' (for exemple, when co-locating a machine far
   away where it is not possible to get a console login).
 
 Well.. (and I know lots of people would say this is stupid) If you are going to
 run it in isolation, then you can change the inital fsck so that it just
 assumes yes for all user input in an error condition..
 
 This means that it generally always gets through the fsck.. Of course if fsck
 had to delete files then they're gone, but if you value its ability to stay up
 without human intervention its handy.
 

The problem is that 'fsck -py' ignores the 'p' and will fsck every time,
even if it's unneeded. This takes ages for me. I believe I submitted a PR
with a 'fix' to fsck.

Kevin


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Re: Running unattended (ifo FFS thread)

1999-10-27 Thread Daniel O'Connor


On 28-Oct-99 Kevin Day wrote:
  This means that it generally always gets through the fsck.. Of course if
  had to delete files then they're gone, but if you value its ability to stay
  without human intervention its handy.
  The problem is that 'fsck -py' ignores the 'p' and will fsck every time,
  even if it's unneeded. This takes ages for me. I believe I submitted a PR
  with a 'fix' to fsck.

Yeah, the machines we have don't get shutdown except for a power failure so
that wasn't a problem :)

I'll have a look for your PR tho.

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are so many of them to choose from."
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RE: Running unattended (ifo FFS thread)

1999-10-27 Thread Julian Elischer



On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

 
 On 27-Oct-99 Remy Nonnenmacher wrote:
   In followup of the FFS thread, I would like to know if there are some
   recommendations for running unattended machines. For exemple, avoiding
   the 'run fsck manually' (for exemple, when co-locating a machine far
   away where it is not possible to get a console login).
 
 Well.. (and I know lots of people would say this is stupid) If you are going to
 run it in isolation, then you can change the inital fsck so that it just
 assumes yes for all user input in an error condition..

we do 

fsck -p || fsck -y




 
 This means that it generally always gets through the fsck.. Of course if fsck
 had to delete files then they're gone, but if you value its ability to stay up
 without human intervention its handy.
 
 ---
 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
 for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
 "The nice thing about standards is that there
 are so many of them to choose from."
   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
 
 
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RE: Running unattended (ifo FFS thread)

1999-10-27 Thread David Scheidt

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

 
 On 27-Oct-99 Remy Nonnenmacher wrote:
   In followup of the FFS thread, I would like to know if there are some
   recommendations for running unattended machines. For exemple, avoiding
   the 'run fsck manually' (for exemple, when co-locating a machine far
   away where it is not possible to get a console login).
 
 Well.. (and I know lots of people would say this is stupid) If you are going to
 run it in isolation, then you can change the inital fsck so that it just
 assumes yes for all user input in an error condition..

It isn't really clear what else you would do, though.  Most people don't
know enough to fix things that fsck can't.  If it hoses the box, restore
from backup.  It is what they are for!  

David scheidt



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