Solaris 10 zones / jails
Just picked this announcement up from /.: http://groups.google.com/groups? selm=c1j796%2424c%241%40news1nwk.SFbay.Sun.COMoe=UTF-8output=gplain Apparently, it is conceptually similiar to FreeBSD jails, but has slightly more advanced configuration management. Maybe some incentive for an enterprising hacker to move our implementation forward in that respect as well... Stefan -- Stefan Bethke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fon +49 170 346 0140 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zones
I meant is there something in Linux akin in *functionality* to the zones of FreeBSD? So, in Linux, the name might not be zones but the functionality should be the same as the zones of FreeBSD. To answer this question, one should know what zones in FreeBSD are, quite well. So, for example, zone allocation is really fast because large memory is pre-allocated and is kept as a linked list of free elements, and you cannot really free a zone to the system till all elements of that zone are free etc.(I dont know a lot about zones myself, otherwise I wouldnt need to ask this question). Something in Linux which achives the same result... And I think there are a few people(who were) involved in Linux development on this list, so I posted it here. Regards, Anjali - Original Message - From: Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anjali Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: Re: Zones well he may speak for only himself.. as for me I have no idea what a 'zone' is in Linux.. timezone? memory zone allocator in the kernel? routing zones? On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Anjali Kulkarni wrote: Thanks for your reminder. I guess I didnt realize they would consider simple and easy beneath their dignity. Truly sorry for the trouble this one email caused you and others, Regards, Anjali - Original Message - From: Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anjali Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Zones Hello, Your best bet for general questions is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailig list. It might be quick and easy, but historically, the people in -hackers are not interested in quick and easy. They're more interested in long, drawn-out, and complicated. On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:23:17PM +0530, Anjali Kulkarni wrote: Hi, This is probably not the right place for this qs., but I am posting it here since it's a quick easy one. Does something like the FreeBSD zones exist in Linux ? Thanks, Anjali -- Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Zones
Hi, This is probably not the right place for this qs., but I am posting it here since it's a quick easy one.Does something like the FreeBSD zones exist in Linux ? Thanks, Anjali
Re: Zones
Hello, Your best bet for general questions is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailig list. It might be quick and easy, but historically, the people in -hackers are not interested in quick and easy. They're more interested in long, drawn-out, and complicated. On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:23:17PM +0530, Anjali Kulkarni wrote: Hi, This is probably not the right place for this qs., but I am posting it here since it's a quick easy one. Does something like the FreeBSD zones exist in Linux ? Thanks, Anjali -- Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Zones
Thanks for your reminder. I guess I didnt realize they would consider simple and easy beneath their dignity. Truly sorry for the trouble this one email caused you and others, Regards, Anjali - Original Message - From: Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anjali Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Zones Hello, Your best bet for general questions is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailig list. It might be quick and easy, but historically, the people in -hackers are not interested in quick and easy. They're more interested in long, drawn-out, and complicated. On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:23:17PM +0530, Anjali Kulkarni wrote: Hi, This is probably not the right place for this qs., but I am posting it here since it's a quick easy one. Does something like the FreeBSD zones exist in Linux ? Thanks, Anjali -- Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Zones
It really isn't a question of beneath their dignity, it's just not what the mailing list is for. People who are interested in answering easy questions read -questions. People hwo are interested in discussing technical issues read -hackers. While there is a certain amount of overlap, you're more likely to get a better answer asking people who are interested in answering questions. ==ml PS: If I had any idea what a zone in Linux was, I would have just answered the question. Sorry. On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:21:33PM +0530, Anjali Kulkarni wrote: Thanks for your reminder. I guess I didnt realize they would consider simple and easy beneath their dignity. Truly sorry for the trouble this one email caused you and others, Regards, Anjali - Original Message - From: Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anjali Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Zones Hello, Your best bet for general questions is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailig list. It might be quick and easy, but historically, the people in -hackers are not interested in quick and easy. They're more interested in long, drawn-out, and complicated. On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:23:17PM +0530, Anjali Kulkarni wrote: Hi, This is probably not the right place for this qs., but I am posting it here since it's a quick easy one. Does something like the FreeBSD zones exist in Linux ? Thanks, Anjali -- Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ -- Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Zones
well he may speak for only himself.. as for me I have no idea what a 'zone' is in Linux.. timezone? memory zone allocator in the kernel? routing zones? On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Anjali Kulkarni wrote: Thanks for your reminder. I guess I didnt realize they would consider simple and easy beneath their dignity. Truly sorry for the trouble this one email caused you and others, Regards, Anjali - Original Message - From: Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anjali Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Zones Hello, Your best bet for general questions is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailig list. It might be quick and easy, but historically, the people in -hackers are not interested in quick and easy. They're more interested in long, drawn-out, and complicated. On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:23:17PM +0530, Anjali Kulkarni wrote: Hi, This is probably not the right place for this qs., but I am posting it here since it's a quick easy one. Does something like the FreeBSD zones exist in Linux ? Thanks, Anjali -- Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Zones
[Replies have been pointed to -chat.] Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: People who are interested in answering easy questions read -questions. Um - people who are interested in helping others by answering questions read -question. Not all the questions on -questions are easy. Not all of them have answers. People who are interested in discussing technical issues read -hackers. While there is a certain amount of overlap, you're more likely to get a better answer asking people who are interested in answering questions. That's certainly right. If you ask a question properly, the worst case on -questions is that you'll be pointed to another list - -scsi and -multimedia are good examples, or -hackers for some - where people who are more likely to know the answer hang out. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message