Re: if_strip for FreeBSD?

2001-08-15 Thread Devin Butterfield

On Tuesday 14 August 2001 10:27, Warner Losh wrote:
 In message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] David 
Scheidt writes:
 : :I was thinking about porting netbsd's if_strip driver (the driver for
 : : the metricom ricochet radios--allows you to use these radios as nodes
 : : in a WLAN). Before I do this, I thought I should first check to see if
 : : anyone else had already ported it to FreeBSD...?
 :
 : Are these useful now that metricom has shut down?

 Some versions of the metricom modems would allow point to point
 communications when they weren't on the merticom net.  I don't know if
 this driver is for one of these or not, but it might not be a bad
 thing to do if so.  I'll be there will be a lot of cheap modems on the
 market soon.  Sierra evidentally got stiffed for $10M in inventory of
 these modems.  They should be appearing on the surplus market soon...

Exactly. This is the reason for my interest. I have a couple of the new 
128Kbs radios (the ricochet GS and GT models) and they have a different MAC 
address format then the older radios that the if_strip driver was originally 
written for. The difference is only this:

Older radio MAC format: -

Newer radio MAC format: XX-- or XXX--

So in addition to porting the basic driver to freebsd, it would be smart to 
add code to accommodate the newer radios.

Oh, and the new radios work in peer-to-peer mode just fine. You can either 
use them like regular modems and just dial the MAC address of the other modem 
and establish a ppp link, or they can be used in Starmode (which is what 
if_strip is for), allowing you to use them like wireless ethernet cards.
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Re: if_strip for FreeBSD?

2001-08-15 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Devin Butterfield writes:
: Oh, and the new radios work in peer-to-peer mode just fine. You can either 
: use them like regular modems and just dial the MAC address of the other modem 
: and establish a ppp link, or they can be used in Starmode (which is what 
: if_strip is for), allowing you to use them like wireless ethernet cards.

Cool  what frequency do the new cards operate at?

Warner

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Re: if_strip for FreeBSD?

2001-08-15 Thread Devin Butterfield

On Tuesday 14 August 2001 11:39, Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Devin Butterfield writes:
 : Oh, and the new radios work in peer-to-peer mode just fine. You can
 : either use them like regular modems and just dial the MAC address of the
 : other modem and establish a ppp link, or they can be used in Starmode
 : (which is what if_strip is for), allowing you to use them like wireless
 : ethernet cards.

 Cool  what frequency do the new cards operate at?

902-928MHz. They are Frequency hopping spread spectrum radios, and I think 
they can do 1 watt max. I've found that I can maintain a link at about 2 
blocks away with ping times around 180-200ms (using PPP). I'm sure I could 
probably get even better range if there weren't any houses or trees in the 
way. :)
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Re: if_strip for FreeBSD?

2001-08-15 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Devin Butterfield writes:
: 902-928MHz. They are Frequency hopping spread spectrum radios, and I think 
: they can do 1 watt max. I've found that I can maintain a link at about 2 
: blocks away with ping times around 180-200ms (using PPP). I'm sure I could 
: probably get even better range if there weren't any houses or trees in the 
: way. :)

Interesting.  I wonder if I could use the 900MHz antennas that I have
to increase that range :-).  Might give me better resistance to the
tree problem I have on my 2.4GHz link now.

Warner

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Re: if_strip for FreeBSD?

2001-08-15 Thread Alex Belits

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Devin Butterfield wrote:

  Some

  All

 versions of the metricom modems would allow point to point
  communications when they weren't on the merticom net.  I don't know if
  this driver is for one of these or not, but it might not be a bad
  thing to do if so.  I'll be there will be a lot of cheap modems on the
  market soon.  Sierra evidentally got stiffed for $10M in inventory of
  these modems.  They should be appearing on the surplus market soon...

 Exactly. This is the reason for my interest. I have a couple of the new
 128Kbs radios (the ricochet GS and GT models) and they have a different MAC
 address format then the older radios that the if_strip driver was originally
 written for. The difference is only this:

 Older radio MAC format: -

 Newer radio MAC format: XX-- or XXX--

 So in addition to porting the basic driver to freebsd, it would be smart to
 add code to accommodate the newer radios.

  Linux driver changes and formats used are at
http://phobos.illtel.denver.co.us/~abelits/metricom/

 Oh, and the new radios work in peer-to-peer mode just fine. You can either
 use them like regular modems and just dial the MAC address of the other modem
 and establish a ppp link, or they can be used in Starmode (which is what
 if_strip is for), allowing you to use them like wireless ethernet cards.

  Exactly.

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Alex


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if_strip for FreeBSD?

2001-08-14 Thread Devin Butterfield

Hi folks,

I was thinking about porting netbsd's if_strip driver (the driver for the 
metricom ricochet radios--allows you to use these radios as nodes in a WLAN). 
Before I do this, I thought I should first check to see if anyone else had 
already ported it to FreeBSD...?
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Re: if_strip for FreeBSD?

2001-08-14 Thread David Scheidt

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Devin Butterfield wrote:

:Hi folks,
:
:I was thinking about porting netbsd's if_strip driver (the driver for the
:metricom ricochet radios--allows you to use these radios as nodes in a WLAN).
:Before I do this, I thought I should first check to see if anyone else had
:already ported it to FreeBSD...?

Are these useful now that metricom has shut down?

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Re: if_strip for FreeBSD?

2001-08-14 Thread Julian Elischer

Devin Butterfield wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I was thinking about porting netbsd's if_strip driver (the driver for the
 metricom ricochet radios--allows you to use these radios as nodes in a WLAN).
 Before I do this, I thought I should first check to see if anyone else had
 already ported it to FreeBSD...?
 --
 Regards, Devin.
 
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didn't ricochet go into chapter 11 and sell all their assets yesterday?

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Re: if_strip for FreeBSD?

2001-08-14 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David 
Scheidt writes:
: :I was thinking about porting netbsd's if_strip driver (the driver for the
: :metricom ricochet radios--allows you to use these radios as nodes in a WLAN).
: :Before I do this, I thought I should first check to see if anyone else had
: :already ported it to FreeBSD...?
: 
: Are these useful now that metricom has shut down?

Some versions of the metricom modems would allow point to point
communications when they weren't on the merticom net.  I don't know if
this driver is for one of these or not, but it might not be a bad
thing to do if so.  I'll be there will be a lot of cheap modems on the 
market soon.  Sierra evidentally got stiffed for $10M in inventory of
these modems.  They should be appearing on the surplus market soon...


Wanrer

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