Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: > Yeah I know, it is just easier to download those chunks over the T1 than > it is over a 28.8. Which is what I was refering too :) Unless you've actually tried this on a Mac, you have no idea how much of an understatement this actually is. - alex You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your girlfriend gets the munchies! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: > Ehm, this isn't possible in the same way that it is w/ FreeBSD. > Basically, you need to grab the booter, the installer, and mkfs (all > MacOS programs), then download the appropiate kernel, base distrib, and > etc distrib. Not quite as slick, but it works. Yeah I know, it is just easier to download those chunks over the T1 than it is over a 28.8. Which is what I was refering too :) Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: > I realize this. The comment stems from the fact the guy I am doing this > for would prefer FreeBSD for his Macs if the opportunity arose. I think > I'll bring it into work on Monday and install NetBSD over the net then. Ehm, this isn't possible in the same way that it is w/ FreeBSD. Basically, you need to grab the booter, the installer, and mkfs (all MacOS programs), then download the appropiate kernel, base distrib, and etc distrib. Not quite as slick, but it works. P.S. I don't think it's really called MacBSD anymore, rather NetBSD, or OpenBSD, or Linux (depending, obviously, on what you're running). - alex You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your girlfriend gets the munchies! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: > Yeah I know, it is just easier to download those chunks over the T1 than > it is over a 28.8. Which is what I was refering too :) Unless you've actually tried this on a Mac, you have no idea how much of an understatement this actually is. - alex You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your girlfriend gets the munchies! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: > Ehm, this isn't possible in the same way that it is w/ FreeBSD. > Basically, you need to grab the booter, the installer, and mkfs (all > MacOS programs), then download the appropiate kernel, base distrib, and > etc distrib. Not quite as slick, but it works. Yeah I know, it is just easier to download those chunks over the T1 than it is over a 28.8. Which is what I was refering too :) Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: > I realize this. The comment stems from the fact the guy I am doing this > for would prefer FreeBSD for his Macs if the opportunity arose. I think > I'll bring it into work on Monday and install NetBSD over the net then. Ehm, this isn't possible in the same way that it is w/ FreeBSD. Basically, you need to grab the booter, the installer, and mkfs (all MacOS programs), then download the appropiate kernel, base distrib, and etc distrib. Not quite as slick, but it works. P.S. I don't think it's really called MacBSD anymore, rather NetBSD, or OpenBSD, or Linux (depending, obviously, on what you're running). - alex You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your girlfriend gets the munchies! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > I've researched this guy a bit more, and I have to say I think it was a > hoax. What a disappointment. It would have been nice to see it running on the Mac68k (or any other older platform, 8086? :). > Uh, MacBSD is actually pretty nice. Alan Briggs and team have done a > really good job of keeping it up-to-date and functional. If I had to > pick a platform to run NetBSD on for reference, the 68k Mac would > feature high on the list (probably after the hp300, but that's another > story). I realize this. The comment stems from the fact the guy I am doing this for would prefer FreeBSD for his Macs if the opportunity arose. I think I'll bring it into work on Monday and install NetBSD over the net then. Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > I've researched this guy a bit more, and I have to say I think it was a > hoax. What a disappointment. It would have been nice to see it running on the Mac68k (or any other older platform, 8086? :). > Uh, MacBSD is actually pretty nice. Alan Briggs and team have done a > really good job of keeping it up-to-date and functional. If I had to > pick a platform to run NetBSD on for reference, the 68k Mac would > feature high on the list (probably after the hp300, but that's another > story). I realize this. The comment stems from the fact the guy I am doing this for would prefer FreeBSD for his Macs if the opportunity arose. I think I'll bring it into work on Monday and install NetBSD over the net then. Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. > > Prior to posting to -hackers, I had emailed him, I tried again after > receiving this message and again, no response. (I used gus...@alaska.net) > Is there a better way to contact this individual? Does anyone have a copy > of the port? I've researched this guy a bit more, and I have to say I think it was a hoax. > I really don't want to have to install NetBSD on this Mac :) Uh, MacBSD is actually pretty nice. Alan Briggs and team have done a really good job of keeping it up-to-date and functional. If I had to pick a platform to run NetBSD on for reference, the 68k Mac would feature high on the list (probably after the hp300, but that's another story). -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msm...@freebsd.org \\-- Joseph Merrick \\ msm...@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. > > Prior to posting to -hackers, I had emailed him, I tried again after > receiving this message and again, no response. (I used [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Is there a better way to contact this individual? Does anyone have a copy > of the port? I've researched this guy a bit more, and I have to say I think it was a hoax. > I really don't want to have to install NetBSD on this Mac :) Uh, MacBSD is actually pretty nice. Alan Briggs and team have done a really good job of keeping it up-to-date and functional. If I had to pick a platform to run NetBSD on for reference, the 68k Mac would feature high on the list (probably after the hp300, but that's another story). -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\-- Joseph Merrick \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote:
> Prior to posting to -hackers, I had emailed him, I tried again after
> receiving this message and again, no response. (I used gus...@alaska.net)
> Is there a better way to contact this individual? Does anyone have a copy
> of the port?
>
> I really don't want to have to install NetBSD on this Mac :)
Worse things could happen :^)
I haven't heard from him either (since I sent out my first inquiry July
19th). But all things considered it should be a bit easier to port
NetBSD/mac68k to FreeBSD than it would with the Alpha bits, considering
that you can setup a m68k-aout cross compiler pretty easily ('course easy
is a relative term).
FWIW, NetBSD works quite well on mac68k, but the biggest problem so far is
the lack of virtual consoles (dt is awful).
- alex
You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your
girlfriend gets the munchies!
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Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote:
> Prior to posting to -hackers, I had emailed him, I tried again after
> receiving this message and again, no response. (I used [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Is there a better way to contact this individual? Does anyone have a copy
> of the port?
>
> I really don't want to have to install NetBSD on this Mac :)
Worse things could happen :^)
I haven't heard from him either (since I sent out my first inquiry July
19th). But all things considered it should be a bit easier to port
NetBSD/mac68k to FreeBSD than it would with the Alpha bits, considering
that you can setup a m68k-aout cross compiler pretty easily ('course easy
is a relative term).
FWIW, NetBSD works quite well on mac68k, but the biggest problem so far is
the lack of virtual consoles (dt is awful).
- alex
You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your
girlfriend gets the munchies!
To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. Prior to posting to -hackers, I had emailed him, I tried again after receiving this message and again, no response. (I used gus...@alaska.net) Is there a better way to contact this individual? Does anyone have a copy of the port? I really don't want to have to install NetBSD on this Mac :) Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD (old thread)
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. Prior to posting to -hackers, I had emailed him, I tried again after receiving this message and again, no response. (I used [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Is there a better way to contact this individual? Does anyone have a copy of the port? I really don't want to have to install NetBSD on this Mac :) Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. > > Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will > be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? I think it's safe to say m68k will be with us for a long, long time. Maybe not on my desktop, but it will be with us. Dont' forget about all those routers, ATM switches, palm pilots, etc. that are all m68k based. Adrian -- [ adr...@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. > > Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will > be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? I think it's safe to say m68k will be with us for a long, long time. Maybe not on my desktop, but it will be with us. Dont' forget about all those routers, ATM switches, palm pilots, etc. that are all m68k based. Adrian -- [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will > be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? Bah! An 040 or 030 powered Mac w/ MacOS makes a decent web browsing, word processing machine; it's an actually useable alternative to an e-machine. Similarlly a 386 or 486 powered FreeBSD machine can still be quite useful even as a small server (admittedly the 68k Mac hardware makes for a piss poor server.. but still). I can't see a 486 or 040 powered machine becomming entirely obsolete until X is required to buildworld. - alex You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your girlfriend gets the munchies! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will > be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? Bah! An 040 or 030 powered Mac w/ MacOS makes a decent web browsing, word processing machine; it's an actually useable alternative to an e-machine. Similarlly a 386 or 486 powered FreeBSD machine can still be quite useful even as a small server (admittedly the 68k Mac hardware makes for a piss poor server.. but still). I can't see a 486 or 040 powered machine becomming entirely obsolete until X is required to buildworld. - alex You better believe that marijuana can cause castration. Just suppose your girlfriend gets the munchies! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. > > Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will > be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? > Hey wait a second! I have a wonderful HP Apollo 400 Series with a 68030 at 50MHz that is so impressive looking friends and family stare in awe at it.:) Seriously, it runs NetBSD, and is a great xterm (19" black and white monitor). I assume mac's and amigas with m68k's are just as useful. -- Kyle Mestery| StorageTek's Storage Networking Group mest...@visi.com| http://www.freebsd.org/ mest...@netwinder.org | http://www.netwinder.org/ Protect your right to privacy: www.freecrypto.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. > > Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will > be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? No. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ gr...@freebsd.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.FreeBSD.org/ _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
> website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. > > Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will > be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? > Hey wait a second! I have a wonderful HP Apollo 400 Series with a 68030 at 50MHz that is so impressive looking friends and family stare in awe at it.:) Seriously, it runs NetBSD, and is a great xterm (19" black and white monitor). I assume mac's and amigas with m68k's are just as useful. -- Kyle Mestery| StorageTek's Storage Networking Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.freebsd.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.netwinder.org/ Protect your right to privacy: www.freecrypto.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. > > Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will > be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? No. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) > > I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in > green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and > whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete? > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > Brian Fundakowski Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!_ __ | _ \._ \ |) | http://www.FreeBSD.org/ _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: m68k Support in FreeBSD
> website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two > weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at > FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) I'd say that's a question for Grant Stockly, the person mentioned in green's web-cited message. It's certainly not part of FreeBSD and whether it ever will be is a matter still subject to debate. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
m68k Support in FreeBSD
A week or so ago there was some discussion of someone who ported FreeBSD to 68k-based Macintosh systems on EFNet. There was also a reference to a website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
m68k Support in FreeBSD
A week or so ago there was some discussion of someone who ported FreeBSD to 68k-based Macintosh systems on EFNet. There was also a reference to a website (http://www.freebsd.org/~green/FreeBSD-68k.txt). In about two weeks I'll have a spare Macintosh IIsi and would like to have a run at FreeBSD on it. So, to the point, where can I get it? :) Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
