Re: thoughts on /etc/newsyslog.conf
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:13:26PM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote: You need ISO8601 to support rolling on fixed dates (1st of the month, etc.) You need 'W-D-M' format to support rolling on a weekly/monthly/daily basis. This can't be done using ISO8601 because ISO uses fixed dates. (How would you specify rotating every monday using ISO8601, when the date of every monday changes from month to month and year to year?) What I'm suggesting is the default newsyslog.conf use WDM everywhere, instead of being half WDM and half ISO8601. Or is there something you can do with ISO8601 that you can't do with WDM? This would make things more clear for the new administrator. If the answer is "because we've always done it this way", then I'll document it as such. :) --- newsyslog.conf-dist Thu Apr 19 10:10:11 2001 +++ newsyslog.conf Thu Apr 19 10:11:33 2001 @@ -6,15 +6,15 @@ /var/log/amd.log 644 7 100 * Z /var/log/kerberos.log 644 7 100 * Z /var/log/lpd-errs 644 7 100 * Z -/var/log/maillog 644 7 *@T00 Z +/var/log/maillog 644 7 *$H0 Z /var/log/sendmail.st 644 10*168 B /var/log/messages 644 5 100 * Z -/var/log/all.log 600 7 *@T00 Z +/var/log/all.log 600 7 *$H0 Z /var/log/slip.log 600 3 100 * Z /var/log/ppp.log 600 3 100 * Z /var/log/security 600 10100 * Z -/var/log/wtmp 644 3 *@01T05 B -/var/log/daily.log 640 7 *@T00 Z +/var/log/wtmp 644 3 *$M1H5 B +/var/log/daily.log 640 7 *$H0 Z /var/log/weekly.log640 5 1$W6D0 Z /var/log/monthly.log 640 12*$M1D0 Z /var/log/console.log 640 5 100 * Z The sendmail.st rotation also seems odd: why rotate once a week at some (essentially) randomly chosen time, rather than once a week at a set time like the rest of the logs? But that's a separate issue. ==ml -- Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
thoughts on /etc/newsyslog.conf
not sure where to send this; it doesn't seem like fodder for any other mailing list... Hello, In writing an article on syslogd and newsyslog, I've noticed something intensely annoying about newsyslog.conf. FreeBSD supports three different formats for dates in newsyslog.conf: raw hours since last rotation, ISO 8601, and FreeBSD-specific week-day-month. Wouldn't it make sense to standardize on one or the other of ISO8601 or W-D-M for the default newsyslog.conf? All of the existing entries could easily be expressed in W-D-M. Or is there some particular reason why we must use both formats in the default file? I'll be happy to document it if that's the case. I'd rather not try to justify using different formats to a new user without such a reason, however. As someone writing documentation, I'd prefer W-D-M since it's easier to explain. :) I will even volunteer patches to make it consistent in whatever form is chosen -- although I suspect one of you real hackers could do it with your eyes closed, I feel obliged to offer. Thanks, ==ml -- Michael Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: thoughts on /etc/newsyslog.conf
Hello, In writing an article on syslogd and newsyslog, I've noticed something intensely annoying about newsyslog.conf. FreeBSD supports three different formats for dates in newsyslog.conf: raw hours since last rotation, ISO 8601, and FreeBSD-specific week-day-month. Wouldn't it make sense to standardize on one or the other of ISO8601 or W-D-M for the default newsyslog.conf? You need 'raw hours' format to support relative times, commonly used with size parameters to control the growth of web logs. (ie "Rotate when size 10M or 6 hours from last rotate") You need ISO8601 to support rolling on fixed dates (1st of the month, etc.) You need 'W-D-M' format to support rolling on a weekly/monthly/daily basis. This can't be done using ISO8601 because ISO uses fixed dates. (How would you specify rotating every monday using ISO8601, when the date of every monday changes from month to month and year to year?) As a point of reference, cron's time/date parameters are functionally a combination of W-D-M and ISO8601. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
