Re: When is sataIII actually sataIII?
On 2018-11-01 16:24, Josh Paetzel wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, at 8:45 AM, spaml...@mail-on.us wrote: I have another Sata 3 drive on the second Sata 3 port, that FreeBSD actually treats as what it is: ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device ada1: Serial Number W1F55VT9 ada1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: Command Queueing enabled ada1: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors) ada1: quirks=0x1<4K> note the "quirks" - is that good, or bad? In the end, it appears that I have to purchase a slower rated (Sata 3) drive to get FreeBSD to treat it as a Sata 3 drive? It makes no sense to me. Which is why I came here; in hopes of finding out *why* it appears as it does. :) Thanks again, Frank! Oh! In case it matters; this is on 12 (CURRENT) -- Chris out... A full dmesg would be useful. A dmesg from a verbose boot even more useful. As well as the make and model of the motherboard. The most common problem is the controller the drive is plugged into isn't actually capable of SATA 3. Also, I guess you know that 12-CURRENT is the riskiest one to be testing on. You didn't mention that before :-) Boot from an 11.2-RELEASE CD and see what it has to say. I take what people say about computing equipment and its performance with a pinch of salt. would be surprised that WDs blurb says it's cheap blue series is faster than the enterprise versions, if anything manufacturers said surprised me any more. Gotta link? Regards, Frank. ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: When is sataIII actually sataIII?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, at 8:45 AM, spaml...@mail-on.us wrote: > I have another Sata 3 drive on the second Sata 3 port, that FreeBSD > actually treats as what it is: > ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 > ada1: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device > ada1: Serial Number W1F55VT9 > ada1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > ada1: Command Queueing enabled > ada1: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors) > ada1: quirks=0x1<4K> > > note the "quirks" - is that good, or bad? > > In the end, it appears that I have to purchase a slower rated (Sata 3) > drive > to get FreeBSD to treat it as a Sata 3 drive? It makes no sense to me. > Which > is why I came here; in hopes of finding out *why* it appears as it does. > :) > > Thanks again, Frank! > > Oh! In case it matters; this is on 12 (CURRENT) > > -- > Chris out... > ___ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" A full dmesg would be useful. A dmesg from a verbose boot even more useful. As well as the make and model of the motherboard. The most common problem is the controller the drive is plugged into isn't actually capable of SATA 3. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: When is sataIII actually sataIII?
On 2018-11-01 03:59, Frank Leonhardt (M) wrote: On 1 November 2018 05:14:35 GMT+00:00, spaml...@mail-on.us wrote: Hi all, I picked out, and put together some hardware for a new FreeBSD powered box. I chose a WD blue drive I knew was pretty zippy. But I was quite disappointed to discover that FreeBSD wouldn't support it @6Gb. The following output from dmesg(8): GEOM: new disk ada0 ada0: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device ada0: Serial Number WD-WCC6Y3CJCTDC ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) My hardware supports it; both drive, and controller. Yet for some reason FreeBSD will only *acknowledge* the capabilities. Do I need to impose some quirk, or something. Thanks! That is saying it will do transfers at 300 Megabytes/second on the interface. You'll be lucky to get that from a WD desktop drive due to mechanical limitations. WD blues at 1Tb tend to do 125-150MBps tops, and the range released a couple of years back (2015?) seem slower than the previous generation, although the spindle speeds vary. 6G vs. 3G is only interesting talking to silicone drives or a SATA expander. But an interesting question - why does it say SATA2 instead of SATA3? Thanks for your reply, Frank! Be that as it may. As platters go. I bought this 1Tb WD blue, because all the stats for it indicated it was faster that all the major competitors, and interestingly, faster than their "high-end" Black counterpart. I also bought it, because it was quieter than all the others. That said; given that the port it runs off of, and the drive is truly a Sata 3 (3.1). Why won't FreeBSD treat it as such. Why does it penalize the drive? I have another Sata 3 drive on the second Sata 3 port, that FreeBSD actually treats as what it is: ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device ada1: Serial Number W1F55VT9 ada1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada1: Command Queueing enabled ada1: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors) ada1: quirks=0x1<4K> note the "quirks" - is that good, or bad? In the end, it appears that I have to purchase a slower rated (Sata 3) drive to get FreeBSD to treat it as a Sata 3 drive? It makes no sense to me. Which is why I came here; in hopes of finding out *why* it appears as it does. :) Thanks again, Frank! Oh! In case it matters; this is on 12 (CURRENT) -- Chris out... ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: When is sataIII actually sataIII?
On 1 November 2018 05:14:35 GMT+00:00, spaml...@mail-on.us wrote: >Hi all, >I picked out, and put together some hardware for a new FreeBSD >powered box. I chose a WD blue drive I knew was pretty zippy. >But I was quite disappointed to discover that FreeBSD wouldn't >support it @6Gb. >The following output from dmesg(8): >GEOM: new disk ada0 >ada0: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device >ada0: Serial Number WD-WCC6Y3CJCTDC >ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) >ada0: Command Queueing enabled >ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) > >My hardware supports it; both drive, and controller. Yet for >some reason FreeBSD will only *acknowledge* the capabilities. >Do I need to impose some quirk, or something. > >Thanks! That is saying it will do transfers at 300 Megabytes/second on the interface. You'll be lucky to get that from a WD desktop drive due to mechanical limitations. WD blues at 1Tb tend to do 125-150MBps tops, and the range released a couple of years back (2015?) seem slower than the previous generation, although the spindle speeds vary. 6G vs. 3G is only interesting talking to silicone drives or a SATA expander. But an interesting question - why does it say SATA2 instead of SATA3? -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
When is sataIII actually sataIII?
Hi all, I picked out, and put together some hardware for a new FreeBSD powered box. I chose a WD blue drive I knew was pretty zippy. But I was quite disappointed to discover that FreeBSD wouldn't support it @6Gb. The following output from dmesg(8): GEOM: new disk ada0 ada0: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device ada0: Serial Number WD-WCC6Y3CJCTDC ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) My hardware supports it; both drive, and controller. Yet for some reason FreeBSD will only *acknowledge* the capabilities. Do I need to impose some quirk, or something. Thanks! -- Chris out... ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
