Re: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
Hi, I don't know how far apart you added memory from the time you bought/built your server. I say that because the drams on the memory might be slightly different. When we build servers, we use a particular brand for certain reasons but one of those reason is the fact the dram specs do not change on a given sku. Here is what I recommend you try. Take out all the memory. Add one dimm only. See if problem persists. If problem stops, add second dimm. Still good, add 3rd dimm and keep adding another dimm one by one. When the problem comes back. Remove all dimms again and put the last dimm you added where the problem came back in first slot. If the problem persists, you found the winner. If not, add all dimms back except the one you just tested and use another dimm. If problem persists, you found a bad memory slot. It's a real PITA tm but that is the only way to find the issue if it is indeed memory or a bad memory slot. One more thing you should try. Did you enable IPMI? If so, #ipmitool -H x.x.x.x sel list Take a look at the output. If you did not enable IPMI (ipadd/netmask/gateway), the bios should have a place to do so. Sorry, we don't sell/build supermicro* so I am unfamiliar with those boards. If you are using both kingston/crucial, just use one of those, do not mix them. Hope this can help you out. Lanny Servaris Corporation http://www.servaris.com On 10/16/2012 3:48 PM, nate keegan wrote: I'm only seeing gstat output of a few percentage points for the OS disks. I am using ECC memory (both the Kingston and the new Crucial memory) and went ahead and swapped out the SSD for SATA disks this morning. Since both SSD were the same firmware and type/manufacturer I figured it was a good time to address this variable. I also went ahead and put in a serial console server this morning so I have proper console access instead of relying on the Supermicro iLO utility. Will keep an eye on the pure SATA setup to see if it barfs or not. Will try to gather some ddb(4) information if it does barf again. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Dieter BSD dieter...@engineer.com wrote: SSD are connected to on-board SATA port on motherboard Presumably to controllers provided by the Intel Tylersburg 5520 chipset. This system was commissioned in February of 2012 and ran without issue as a ZFS backup system on our network until about 3 weeks ago. The system is dual PSU behind a UPS so I don't think that this is an issue. No changes? e.g. no added hardware to increase power load. Overloading the power supply and/or the wiring (with too many splitters) can result in flaky problems like this. OS will respond to ping requests after the issue and if you have an active SSH session you will remain connected to the system until you attempt to do something like 'ls', 'ps', etc. I am not able to drop into DDB when the issue happens as the system is locked up completely. Could be a failure on my part to understand/engage in how to do this, will try if the issue happens again (should on Wednesday AM unless setting camcontrol apm to off for the disks somehow fixes the issue). If the system is alive enough to respond to ping, I'd expect you should be able to get into DDB? Can you get into DDB when the system is working normally? 2 x Crucial M4 64 Gb SATA SSD for FreeBSD OS (zroot) 2 x Intel 320 MLC 80 Gb SATA SSD for L2ARC and swap I ran the Crucial firmware update ISO and it did not see any firmware updates as necessary on the SSD disks. Does the problem happen with both the Crucial and the Intel SSDs? If software I agree that it would not make sense that this would suddenly pop-up after months of operation with no issues. If something causes the software/firmware to take a different path, new issues can appear. E.g. error handling or even timing. Infrequently used code paths might not have been tested sufficiently. Does the controller have firmware? Part of the BIOS I suppose. Is there a BIOS update available? Have you considered connecting the SSDs to a different controller? the on-board AHCI portion of the BIOS does not always see the disks after the event without a hard system power reset. That's at least one bug somewhere, probably the hardware isn't getting reset properly. Does Supermicro know about this bug? I have 48 Gb of Crucial memory that I will put in this system today to replace the 24 Gb or so of Kingston memory I have in the system. Which in addition to being different memory, should reduce swap activity. Suggestion: move everything to conventional drives. Keep at least one SSD connected to system, but normally unused. Now you can beat on the SSD in a controlled manner to debug the problem. Does reading trigger the problem? Writing? Try dd with different blocksizes, accessing multiple SSDs at once, etc. I have to wonder if there is a timing problem, or missing interrupt, or... * Ditch FreeBSD for Solaris so I can keep ZFS lovin for the intended purpose of
Re: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
Since replacing the SSD disks with good old plain SATA in external enclosures I have not experienced a single issue. I can only surmise that something is wonky with the Crucial M4 firmware with FreeBSD 8.2/9.0 under certain circumstances. Thanks to everyone who contributed on this as the information about debugging kernels, etc was very helpful from a procedural point of view. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:48 PM, nate keegan nate.kee...@gmail.com wrote: I'm only seeing gstat output of a few percentage points for the OS disks. I am using ECC memory (both the Kingston and the new Crucial memory) and went ahead and swapped out the SSD for SATA disks this morning. Since both SSD were the same firmware and type/manufacturer I figured it was a good time to address this variable. I also went ahead and put in a serial console server this morning so I have proper console access instead of relying on the Supermicro iLO utility. Will keep an eye on the pure SATA setup to see if it barfs or not. Will try to gather some ddb(4) information if it does barf again. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Dieter BSD dieter...@engineer.com wrote: SSD are connected to on-board SATA port on motherboard Presumably to controllers provided by the Intel Tylersburg 5520 chipset. This system was commissioned in February of 2012 and ran without issue as a ZFS backup system on our network until about 3 weeks ago. The system is dual PSU behind a UPS so I don't think that this is an issue. No changes? e.g. no added hardware to increase power load. Overloading the power supply and/or the wiring (with too many splitters) can result in flaky problems like this. OS will respond to ping requests after the issue and if you have an active SSH session you will remain connected to the system until you attempt to do something like 'ls', 'ps', etc. I am not able to drop into DDB when the issue happens as the system is locked up completely. Could be a failure on my part to understand/engage in how to do this, will try if the issue happens again (should on Wednesday AM unless setting camcontrol apm to off for the disks somehow fixes the issue). If the system is alive enough to respond to ping, I'd expect you should be able to get into DDB? Can you get into DDB when the system is working normally? 2 x Crucial M4 64 Gb SATA SSD for FreeBSD OS (zroot) 2 x Intel 320 MLC 80 Gb SATA SSD for L2ARC and swap I ran the Crucial firmware update ISO and it did not see any firmware updates as necessary on the SSD disks. Does the problem happen with both the Crucial and the Intel SSDs? If software I agree that it would not make sense that this would suddenly pop-up after months of operation with no issues. If something causes the software/firmware to take a different path, new issues can appear. E.g. error handling or even timing. Infrequently used code paths might not have been tested sufficiently. Does the controller have firmware? Part of the BIOS I suppose. Is there a BIOS update available? Have you considered connecting the SSDs to a different controller? the on-board AHCI portion of the BIOS does not always see the disks after the event without a hard system power reset. That's at least one bug somewhere, probably the hardware isn't getting reset properly. Does Supermicro know about this bug? I have 48 Gb of Crucial memory that I will put in this system today to replace the 24 Gb or so of Kingston memory I have in the system. Which in addition to being different memory, should reduce swap activity. Suggestion: move everything to conventional drives. Keep at least one SSD connected to system, but normally unused. Now you can beat on the SSD in a controlled manner to debug the problem. Does reading trigger the problem? Writing? Try dd with different blocksizes, accessing multiple SSDs at once, etc. I have to wonder if there is a timing problem, or missing interrupt, or... * Ditch FreeBSD for Solaris so I can keep ZFS lovin for the intended purpose of this system If it fails with FreeBSD but works with Solaris on the same hardware, then it is almost certainly a problem with the device driver. (Or at least a problem that Solaris has a workaround for.) ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
On 2012-Oct-16 12:48:16 -0700, nate keegan nate.kee...@gmail.com wrote: Will keep an eye on the pure SATA setup to see if it barfs or not. Will try to gather some ddb(4) information if it does barf again. Any news on this? -- Peter Jeremy pgpW1p3kkYl1a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
I'm only seeing gstat output of a few percentage points for the OS disks. I am using ECC memory (both the Kingston and the new Crucial memory) and went ahead and swapped out the SSD for SATA disks this morning. Since both SSD were the same firmware and type/manufacturer I figured it was a good time to address this variable. I also went ahead and put in a serial console server this morning so I have proper console access instead of relying on the Supermicro iLO utility. Will keep an eye on the pure SATA setup to see if it barfs or not. Will try to gather some ddb(4) information if it does barf again. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Dieter BSD dieter...@engineer.com wrote: SSD are connected to on-board SATA port on motherboard Presumably to controllers provided by the Intel Tylersburg 5520 chipset. This system was commissioned in February of 2012 and ran without issue as a ZFS backup system on our network until about 3 weeks ago. The system is dual PSU behind a UPS so I don't think that this is an issue. No changes? e.g. no added hardware to increase power load. Overloading the power supply and/or the wiring (with too many splitters) can result in flaky problems like this. OS will respond to ping requests after the issue and if you have an active SSH session you will remain connected to the system until you attempt to do something like 'ls', 'ps', etc. I am not able to drop into DDB when the issue happens as the system is locked up completely. Could be a failure on my part to understand/engage in how to do this, will try if the issue happens again (should on Wednesday AM unless setting camcontrol apm to off for the disks somehow fixes the issue). If the system is alive enough to respond to ping, I'd expect you should be able to get into DDB? Can you get into DDB when the system is working normally? 2 x Crucial M4 64 Gb SATA SSD for FreeBSD OS (zroot) 2 x Intel 320 MLC 80 Gb SATA SSD for L2ARC and swap I ran the Crucial firmware update ISO and it did not see any firmware updates as necessary on the SSD disks. Does the problem happen with both the Crucial and the Intel SSDs? If software I agree that it would not make sense that this would suddenly pop-up after months of operation with no issues. If something causes the software/firmware to take a different path, new issues can appear. E.g. error handling or even timing. Infrequently used code paths might not have been tested sufficiently. Does the controller have firmware? Part of the BIOS I suppose. Is there a BIOS update available? Have you considered connecting the SSDs to a different controller? the on-board AHCI portion of the BIOS does not always see the disks after the event without a hard system power reset. That's at least one bug somewhere, probably the hardware isn't getting reset properly. Does Supermicro know about this bug? I have 48 Gb of Crucial memory that I will put in this system today to replace the 24 Gb or so of Kingston memory I have in the system. Which in addition to being different memory, should reduce swap activity. Suggestion: move everything to conventional drives. Keep at least one SSD connected to system, but normally unused. Now you can beat on the SSD in a controlled manner to debug the problem. Does reading trigger the problem? Writing? Try dd with different blocksizes, accessing multiple SSDs at once, etc. I have to wonder if there is a timing problem, or missing interrupt, or... * Ditch FreeBSD for Solaris so I can keep ZFS lovin for the intended purpose of this system If it fails with FreeBSD but works with Solaris on the same hardware, then it is almost certainly a problem with the device driver. (Or at least a problem that Solaris has a workaround for.) ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
On 2012-Oct-14 16:03:39 -0700, nate keegan nate.kee...@gmail.com wrote: Based on what I'm seeing for post types on freebsd-questions this might be the best forum for this issue as it looks like some sort of a strange issue or bug between FreeBSD 8.2/9.0 and SATA SSD drives. This system was commissioned in February of 2012 and ran without issue as a ZFS backup system on our network until about 3 weeks ago. At that time I started getting kernel panics due to timeouts to the on-board SATA devices. The only change to the system since it was built was to add an SSD for swap (32 Gb swap device) and this issue did not happen until several months after this was added. This _does_ sound more like hardware than software - it's difficult to envisage a software bug that does nothing for 6 months and then makes the system hang regularly. Has there been any significant change to the system load, how much data is being transferred, clients, how full the data zpool is, etc that might correlate with the onset of hangs? I then moved to systematically replacing items such as SATA cables, memory, motherboard, etc and the problem continued. For example, I swapped out the 4 SATA cables with brand new SATA cables and waited to see if the problem happened again. Once it did I moved on to replacing the motherboard with an identical motherboard, waited, etc. Have you tried replacing RAM PSU? The system logs do not show anything prior to event happening and the OS will respond to ping requests after the issue and if you have an active SSH session you will remain connected to the system until you attempt to do something like 'ls', 'ps', etc. This implies that the kernel is still active but the filesystem is deadlocked. Are you able to drop into DDB? Is anything displayed on the kernel? New SSH requests to the system get 'connection refused'. This implies that sshd has died - a filesystem deadlock should result in connection attempts either timing out or just hanging. I'm open to suggestions, direction, etc to see if I can nail down what is going on and put this issue to bed for not only myself but for anyone else who might run into it in the future. Are you running a GENERIC kernel? If not, what changes have you made? Have you set any loader tunables or sysctls? Have you scrubbed the pools? If you run gstat -a, do any devices have anomolous readings? I can't offer any definite fixes but can suggest a few more things to try: 1) Try FreeBSD-9.1RC2 and see if the problem persists. 2) Try a new kernel with options WITNESS options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN this may make a software bug more obvious (but will somewhat increase kernel overheads) 3) If you can afford it, detach the L2ARC - which removes one potential issue. 4) If you haven't already, build a kernel with makeoptions DEBUG=-g options KDB options KDB_TRACE options KDB_UNATTENDED options DDB this won't have any impact on normal operation but will simplify debugging. -- Peter Jeremy pgpjZCrSIYLe8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
On 15 oct. 2012, at 11:58, Peter Jeremy wrote: This _does_ sound more like hardware than software I do agree with that. Have you tried replacing RAM PSU? I, too, was about to suggest a test or replacement of the PSU. Also, I've had a (quite) similar problem years ago (no raid, no zfs, older freebsd…) where HDD would detach or be lost by the system on a random basis. I search a long time of the software side, but it was cured by a firmware update on HDDs. good luck with this issue. Patrick
Re: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
I took a look at the DDB man page and I am not able to do this when the issue happens as the system is completely blown up (meaning no keyboard input on IPMI console, existing SSH sessions, etc. No changes have been seen in the ZFS load on the system. The nature of this system (backup) is such that the heaviest load would be created in the first week or so of going online as we use rsync to copy files down from our Windows servers and during this first week or so the system has to 'seed' the initial copies which would be much heavier on I/O than after that first week where things are relatively constant in terms of I/O. I have 48 Gb of Crucial memory that I will put in this system today to replace the 24 Gb or so of Kingston memory I have in the system. If the issue happens again with the memory change I plan on replacing both SSD (Crucial M4) with two non-SSD SATA disks with the idea that maybe the Crucial firmware on the disks (002 on both disks) is the culprit somehow. It neither item turn out to solve the issue will move on to 9.1RC2 or 9.1-RELEASE if it is out by then and adding kernel options requested. The amount of monkeying that I have had to do via /boot/loader.conf and the camcontrol script I run is telling me that the SSD, the firmware on the SSD, etc is somehow causing the issue as we have plenty of other FreeBSD 8.x and 9.x systems that use non-SSD SATA drives without this issue popping up in their daily workloads. My /boot/loader.conf looks like this currently: # Set in the BIOS as well to activate ahci_load=YES # Should be auto-negotiation in FreeBSD 9.x # See ahci(4) hint.ahcich.0.sata_rev=1 hint.ahcich.1.sata_rev=1 hint.ahcich.0.pm_level=1 hint.ahcich.1.pm_level=1 And /usr/local/etc/rc.d/camcontrol: #!/bin/sh CAMCONTROL=/sbin/camcontrol # Disable NCQ $CAMCONTROL tags ada0 -N 1 /dev/null $CAMCONTROL tags ada1 -N 1 /dev/null # Disable APM $CAMCONTROL cmd ada0 -a EF 85 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 /dev/null $CAMCONTROL cmd ada1 -a EF 85 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 /dev/null Without both of these shims in place I get maybe 1.5 hours to two hours or so before the system goes kablooie and that is without the system doing any real I/O work just running FreeBSD during the business day and a few scripts from cron to check for data and shuffle it around. ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
On 2012-Oct-15 07:54:21 -0700, nate keegan nate.kee...@gmail.com wrote: The system is dual PSU behind a UPS so I don't think that this is an issue. OK I do have a complete set of replacement memory (Crucial vs Kingston that is in the system now) and will swap out the memory in case one of the DIMMs is flaky but not poor enough for the BIOS to notice on a consistent basis. I presume this is registered ECC RAM - which makes it more robust. Non-ECC RAM can develop pattern-sensitive faults - which are virtually impossible to test for. And BIOS RAM 'tests' generally can't be relied on to do much more than verify that something is responding. Swapping RAM is the best way to rule out RAM issues. I am not able to drop into DDB when the issue happens as the system is locked up completely. That's surprising. I haven't seen a failure mode where the kernel will respond to pings but not the console. Will get the output of gstat -a and post it up here. gstat -a gives a dynamic picture of disk activity. I was hoping you could watch it for a minute or so (on a tall window) whilst the system was running and see if any disks look odd - significantly higher or lower than expected I/O volume or long ms/r or ms/w. On 2012-Oct-15 10:21:06 -0700, nate keegan nate.kee...@gmail.com wrote: I took a look at the DDB man page and I am not able to do this when the issue happens as the system is completely blown up (meaning no keyboard input on IPMI console, existing SSH sessions, etc. Note that I'm referring to ddb(4), not ddb(8). The former is entered via a magic key sequence on the console and should work even if the system won't react to normal commands. To enter ddb, use Ctrl-Alt-ESC on a graphical console or the character sequence CR ~ Ctrl-B on a serial console (in the latter case, the sysctl debug.kdb.alt_break_to_debugger also needs to be set to 1). If you do get into ddb, a useful set of initial commands is: show all procs show alllocks show allpcpu show lockedvnods call doadump Note that the first 4 commands will generate lots of output - ideally you would have a serial console with logging. The last command generates a crashdump and needs 'dumpdev=AUTO' in /etc/rc.conf (run service dumpon start after editing rc.conf to enable it without rebooting). The amount of monkeying that I have had to do via /boot/loader.conf and the camcontrol script I run is telling me that the SSD, the firmware on the SSD, etc is somehow causing the issue as we have plenty of other FreeBSD 8.x and 9.x systems that use non-SSD SATA drives without this issue popping up in their daily workloads. Are you able to move the SSD(s) to a different type of SATA port? One (not especially likely) possibility is it's an interaction between the SSD and the SATA controller. -- Peter Jeremy pgp6kwXmUaVZt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
SSD are connected to on-board SATA port on motherboard Presumably to controllers provided by the Intel Tylersburg 5520 chipset. This system was commissioned in February of 2012 and ran without issue as a ZFS backup system on our network until about 3 weeks ago. The system is dual PSU behind a UPS so I don't think that this is an issue. No changes? e.g. no added hardware to increase power load. Overloading the power supply and/or the wiring (with too many splitters) can result in flaky problems like this. OS will respond to ping requests after the issue and if you have an active SSH session you will remain connected to the system until you attempt to do something like 'ls', 'ps', etc. I am not able to drop into DDB when the issue happens as the system is locked up completely. Could be a failure on my part to understand/engage in how to do this, will try if the issue happens again (should on Wednesday AM unless setting camcontrol apm to off for the disks somehow fixes the issue). If the system is alive enough to respond to ping, I'd expect you should be able to get into DDB? Can you get into DDB when the system is working normally? 2 x Crucial M4 64 Gb SATA SSD for FreeBSD OS (zroot) 2 x Intel 320 MLC 80 Gb SATA SSD for L2ARC and swap I ran the Crucial firmware update ISO and it did not see any firmware updates as necessary on the SSD disks. Does the problem happen with both the Crucial and the Intel SSDs? If software I agree that it would not make sense that this would suddenly pop-up after months of operation with no issues. If something causes the software/firmware to take a different path, new issues can appear. E.g. error handling or even timing. Infrequently used code paths might not have been tested sufficiently. Does the controller have firmware? Part of the BIOS I suppose. Is there a BIOS update available? Have you considered connecting the SSDs to a different controller? the on-board AHCI portion of the BIOS does not always see the disks after the event without a hard system power reset. That's at least one bug somewhere, probably the hardware isn't getting reset properly. Does Supermicro know about this bug? I have 48 Gb of Crucial memory that I will put in this system today to replace the 24 Gb or so of Kingston memory I have in the system. Which in addition to being different memory, should reduce swap activity. Suggestion: move everything to conventional drives. Keep at least one SSD connected to system, but normally unused. Now you can beat on the SSD in a controlled manner to debug the problem. Does reading trigger the problem? Writing? Try dd with different blocksizes, accessing multiple SSDs at once, etc. I have to wonder if there is a timing problem, or missing interrupt, or... * Ditch FreeBSD for Solaris so I can keep ZFS lovin for the intended purpose of this system If it fails with FreeBSD but works with Solaris on the same hardware, then it is almost certainly a problem with the device driver. (Or at least a problem that Solaris has a workaround for.) ___ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hardware-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ahcich Timeouts SATA SSD
I originally posted this to the FreeBSD hardware forum and then on freebsd-questions at the direction of a moderator in the forum. Based on what I'm seeing for post types on freebsd-questions this might be the best forum for this issue as it looks like some sort of a strange issue or bug between FreeBSD 8.2/9.0 and SATA SSD drives. My configuration is as follows: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE Supermicro X8DTi-LN4F (Intel Tylersburg 5520 chipset) motherboard 24 GB system memory 32 x Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 disks connected to 4 x Intel SASUC8I (LSI 3081E-R) in IT mode 2 x Crucial M4 64 Gb SATA SSD for FreeBSD OS (zroot) 2 x Intel 320 MLC 80 Gb SATA SSD for L2ARC and swap SSD are connected to on-board SATA port on motherboard This system was commissioned in February of 2012 and ran without issue as a ZFS backup system on our network until about 3 weeks ago. At that time I started getting kernel panics due to timeouts to the on-board SATA devices. The only change to the system since it was built was to add an SSD for swap (32 Gb swap device) and this issue did not happen until several months after this was added. My initial thought was that I might have a bad SSD drive so I swapped out one of the Crucial SSD drives and the problem happened again a few days later. I then moved to systematically replacing items such as SATA cables, memory, motherboard, etc and the problem continued. For example, I swapped out the 4 SATA cables with brand new SATA cables and waited to see if the problem happened again. Once it did I moved on to replacing the motherboard with an identical motherboard, waited, etc. I could not find an obvious hardware related explanation for this behavior so about a week and a half ago I did a fresh install of FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE to move from the ATA driver to the AHCI driver as I found some evidence that this was helpful. The problem continued with something like this: ahcich0: Timeout on slot 29 port 0 ahcich0: is 0 cs ss e000 rs e000 tfd 40 serr cmd 0004df17 ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 0080) ahcich0: Timeout on slot 31 port 0 ahcich0: is cs 8000 ss rs 8000 tfd 80 serr cmd 0004df17 (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): lost device ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 3100ms (tfd = 0080) ahcich0: Timeout on slot 31 port 0 ahcich0: is cs 8003 ss 80003 rs 8003 tfd 80 serr 000 cmd 0004df17 (ada0:ahcich0:0:0:0): removing device entry ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 0080) ahcich0: Poll timeout on slot 1 port 0 ahcich0: is cs 0002 ss 0 rs 002 tfd 80 serr cmd 004c117 When this happens the only way to recover the system is to hard boot via IPMI (yanking the power vs hitting reset). I cannot say that every time this happens a hard reset is necessary but more often than not a hard reset is necessary as the on-board AHCI portion of the BIOS does not always see the disks after the event without a hard system power reset. I have done a bunch of Google work on this and have seen the issue appear in FreeNAS and FreeBSD but no clear cut resolution in terms of how to address it or what causes it. Some people had a bad SSD, others had to disable NCQ or power management on their SSD, particular brands of SSD (Samsung), etc. Nothing conclusive so far. At the present time the issue happens every 1-2 hours unless I have the following in my /boot/loader.conf after the ahci_load statement: ahci_load=YES # See ahci(4) hint.ahcich.0.sata_rev=1 hint.ahcich.1.sata_rev=1 hint.ahcich.2.sata_rev=1 hint.ahcich.3.sata_rev=1 hint.ahcich.0.pm_level=1 hint.ahcich.1.pm_level=1 hint.ahcich.2.pm_level=1 hint.ahcich.3.pm_level=1 I have a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d which disables NCQ on these drives: #!/bin/sh CAMCONTROL=/sbin/camcontrol $CAMCONTROL tags ada0 -N 1 /dev/null $CAMCONTROL tags ada1 -N 1 /dev/null $CAMCONTROL tags ada2 -N 1 /dev/null $CAMCONTROL tags ada3 -N 1 /dev/null exit 0 I went ahead and pulled the Intel SSDs as they were showing ASR and hardware resets which incremented. Removing both of these disks from the system did not change the situation. The combination of /boot/loader.conf and this script gets me 6 days or so of operation before the issue pops up again. If I remove these two items I get maybe 2 hours before the issue happens again. Right now I'm down to one OS disk and one swap disk and that is it for SSD disks on the system. At the last reboot (yesterday) I disabled APM on the disks (ada0 and ada1 at this point) to see if that makes a difference as I found a reference to this being a potential problem. I'm looking for insight/help on this as I'm about out of options. If there is a way to gather more information when this happens, post up information, etc I'm open to trying it. What is driving me crazy is that I can't seem to come up with a concrete explanation as to why now and not back when the