Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
I have not tried as small, but the native parts do not need much. The build has option (-numproc) to limit parallelism and that should help if you run into troubles. Also, watch for limit on open file descriptors. Tomas On 9/20/17, 2:39 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Carsten Larsen" wrote: This all sounds very interesting ! Given the new build instructions on github I will also give it try. What are the requirements in terms of memory for the build process to complete? Would a VPS with 512Mb be enough? Kind regards Carsten On 20-09-2017 03:35 Aaron Havens wrote: > I am going through the Building instructions and updating anything I find. > Let me know if I add something that should be left out or should do it > differently. > > Aaron > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono < > freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> First draft is posted here: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fdotnet%2F&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7Cfe32f86c6e024ee71f6108d500710a0a%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636415407870960109&sdata=6UXyqkEidTTQQJI6FqPIvCMRiot29zXFMWyduTn6jV4%3D&reserved=0 >> corefx/wiki/Building-.NET-Core--2.x-on-FreeBSD >> Probably incomplete. >> It would be good if anybody can take a look, try and improve. >> This is essentially equivalent of what has been done for 1.x. >> My next step is to have cross-OS tests and get them running on FreeBSD >> host. >> >> Tomas >> >> On 9/16/17, 9:59 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Tomas >> Weinfurt via freebsd-mono" > freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >> I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not get >> to it yet. >> At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux >> instead) >> I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so >> one can build proper managed assemblies. >> Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because >> Linux emulation is lacking mincore() support. >> >> Tomas >> >> >> On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of >> Russell Haley" > russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hey Guys, >> >> Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. I'm >> not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone >> is >> interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers >> something >> more functional and some instructions. >> >> Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet >> Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their >> tools (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be good >> for status updates and the like? >> >> Russ >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid < >> eraleg...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote: >> >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a >> GitHub account and >> >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. >> >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm >> not so sure >> >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good >> place to >> >> congregate. >> > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source >> project before so I >> > don't know how much help I could be. >> > >> > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com) >> > GH Account is https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fna01.safelinks&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7Cfe32f86c6e024ee71f6108d500710a0a%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636415407870960109&sdata=SjJjylJEmh59rdcN9e%2BHeO8PibDKj9v0sxm%2FTNbHY3g%3D&reserved=0. >> protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com% >> 2FEcho-8-ERA&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com% >> 7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011 >> db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=WqH7%2BN% >> 2BatYCU4BYs5409sZMMHWJPILJnLjGm7m7v988%3D&reserved=0 >> > >> > Regards, >> > Robert Alegrid >> ___ >> freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% >> 2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CT
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
This all sounds very interesting ! Given the new build instructions on github I will also give it try. What are the requirements in terms of memory for the build process to complete? Would a VPS with 512Mb be enough? Kind regards Carsten On 20-09-2017 03:35 Aaron Havens wrote: I am going through the Building instructions and updating anything I find. Let me know if I add something that should be left out or should do it differently. Aaron On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono < freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote: First draft is posted here: https://github.com/dotnet/ corefx/wiki/Building-.NET-Core--2.x-on-FreeBSD Probably incomplete. It would be good if anybody can take a look, try and improve. This is essentially equivalent of what has been done for 1.x. My next step is to have cross-OS tests and get them running on FreeBSD host. Tomas On 9/16/17, 9:59 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono" wrote: I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not get to it yet. At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux instead) I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so one can build proper managed assemblies. Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because Linux emulation is lacking mincore() support. Tomas On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Russell Haley" wrote: Hey Guys, Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. I'm not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone is interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers something more functional and some instructions. Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their tools (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be good for status updates and the like? Russ On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid < eraleg...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote: >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a GitHub account and >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm not so sure >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good place to >> congregate. > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source project before so I > don't know how much help I could be. > > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com) > GH Account is https://na01.safelinks. protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com% 2FEcho-8-ERA&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com% 7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011 db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=WqH7%2BN% 2BatYCU4BYs5409sZMMHWJPILJnLjGm7m7v988%3D&reserved=0 > > Regards, > Robert Alegrid ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% 2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com% 7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011 db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=kNqxYsg0HzoF3f3HqGsp3dm1NKsNax 9W3lWuntDt7kE%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscribe@ freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% 2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com% 7C5364f3a7997f4f5b328708d4fd88f28e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011 db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412212015989639&sdata=WuwkCpreZpGlwnMGKWQ6kdxBGYKxQA yHrx6IV9MbgKA%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org " ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
+1 On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Aaron Havens wrote: > I am going through the Building instructions and updating anything I find. > Let me know if I add something that should be left out or should do it > differently. > > Aaron > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono > wrote: >> >> First draft is posted here: >> https://github.com/dotnet/corefx/wiki/Building-.NET-Core--2.x-on-FreeBSD >> Probably incomplete. >> It would be good if anybody can take a look, try and improve. >> This is essentially equivalent of what has been done for 1.x. >> My next step is to have cross-OS tests and get them running on FreeBSD >> host. >> >> Tomas >> >> On 9/16/17, 9:59 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Tomas >> Weinfurt via freebsd-mono" > freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >> I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not get >> to it yet. >> At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux >> instead) >> I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so >> one can build proper managed assemblies. >> Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because >> Linux emulation is lacking mincore() support. >> >> Tomas >> >> >> On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of >> Russell Haley" > russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hey Guys, >> >> Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. >> I'm >> not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone >> is >> interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers >> something >> more functional and some instructions. >> >> Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet >> Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their >> tools (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be >> good >> for status updates and the like? >> >> Russ >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid >> wrote: >> > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote: >> >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a >> GitHub account and >> >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. >> >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm >> not so sure >> >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good >> place to >> >> congregate. >> > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source >> project before so I >> > don't know how much help I could be. >> > >> > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com) >> > GH Account is >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FEcho-8-ERA&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=WqH7%2BN%2BatYCU4BYs5409sZMMHWJPILJnLjGm7m7v988%3D&reserved=0 >> > >> > Regards, >> > Robert Alegrid >> ___ >> freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=kNqxYsg0HzoF3f3HqGsp3dm1NKsNax9W3lWuntDt7kE%3D&reserved=0 >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >> >> >> ___ >> freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C5364f3a7997f4f5b328708d4fd88f28e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412212015989639&sdata=WuwkCpreZpGlwnMGKWQ6kdxBGYKxQAyHrx6IV9MbgKA%3D&reserved=0 >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >> >> ___ >> freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
I am going through the Building instructions and updating anything I find. Let me know if I add something that should be left out or should do it differently. Aaron On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono < freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote: > First draft is posted here: https://github.com/dotnet/ > corefx/wiki/Building-.NET-Core--2.x-on-FreeBSD > Probably incomplete. > It would be good if anybody can take a look, try and improve. > This is essentially equivalent of what has been done for 1.x. > My next step is to have cross-OS tests and get them running on FreeBSD > host. > > Tomas > > On 9/16/17, 9:59 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Tomas > Weinfurt via freebsd-mono" freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote: > > I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not get > to it yet. > At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux > instead) > I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so > one can build proper managed assemblies. > Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because > Linux emulation is lacking mincore() support. > > Tomas > > > On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of > Russell Haley" russ.ha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. I'm > not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone > is > interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers > something > more functional and some instructions. > > Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet > Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their > tools (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be good > for status updates and the like? > > Russ > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid < > eraleg...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote: > >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a > GitHub account and > >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. > >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm > not so sure > >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good > place to > >> congregate. > > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source > project before so I > > don't know how much help I could be. > > > > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com) > > GH Account is https://na01.safelinks. > protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com% > 2FEcho-8-ERA&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com% > 7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011 > db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=WqH7%2BN% > 2BatYCU4BYs5409sZMMHWJPILJnLjGm7m7v988%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Regards, > > Robert Alegrid > ___ > freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% > 2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com% > 7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011 > db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=kNqxYsg0HzoF3f3HqGsp3dm1NKsNax > 9W3lWuntDt7kE%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscribe@ > freebsd.org" > > > ___ > freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% > 2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com% > 7C5364f3a7997f4f5b328708d4fd88f28e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011 > db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412212015989639&sdata=WuwkCpreZpGlwnMGKWQ6kdxBGYKxQA > yHrx6IV9MbgKA%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org > " > > ___ > freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Tomas Weinfurt wrote: >>Sweet! I love the "Thar be Dragons!" warning. :) > > Daemons & Dragons! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon) > I resisted urge to put there note on cake eaters. > >> This also links to the original core 1.x FreeBSD build guide. I lost >>this one a while back and could never find it. :( > > There is another great link here: > https://github.com/dotnet/corefx/issues/1626 > > way down there is checklist of missing parts. > We should try to reconstruct it for 2.0. > For example, Filesystem.watchers is still missing. A couple of the guys on this list have filled in the blanks for filesystem watchers in mono. Is there working OSX filewatchers (i.e. kqueues)? Night, Russ > The API surface increased quite a bit in 2.0 – so as the gap. > My current thinking is to fork the build to add FreeBSD flavor and throw > “PlatformNotSupported” and then finding somebody to work on implementation. > > >>Tomas, from reading through your instructions, there seems to be two >> obstacles and they are both managed code? >> - corelib - dotnet/coreclr/src/mscorelib seems to be the corelib you >>are talking about? > > - corefx - managed code > > >>If that's true, then we should definitely give mono a shot at bringing > > those up. I'm downloading the dotnet/coreclr now. > > And yes, that is mscorelib. I did ask around and Mono used to be supported > for building. > It was claimed unstable and removed from build. You will need to get > compilation as well as msbuild working right. > For now, I’m going to ignore building part, and I’ll focus on getting coreCLR > & coreFX working well. > On the side, I’ll try to shepherd changes to cli & msbuild so they can > properly recognize FreeBSD as a platform. > > Tomas > ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
>Sweet! I love the "Thar be Dragons!" warning. :) Daemons & Dragons! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon) I resisted urge to put there note on cake eaters. > This also links to the original core 1.x FreeBSD build guide. I lost >this one a while back and could never find it. :( There is another great link here: https://github.com/dotnet/corefx/issues/1626 way down there is checklist of missing parts. We should try to reconstruct it for 2.0. For example, Filesystem.watchers is still missing. The API surface increased quite a bit in 2.0 – so as the gap. My current thinking is to fork the build to add FreeBSD flavor and throw “PlatformNotSupported” and then finding somebody to work on implementation. >Tomas, from reading through your instructions, there seems to be two > obstacles and they are both managed code? > - corelib - dotnet/coreclr/src/mscorelib seems to be the corelib you >are talking about? > - corefx - managed code > >If that's true, then we should definitely give mono a shot at bringing > those up. I'm downloading the dotnet/coreclr now. And yes, that is mscorelib. I did ask around and Mono used to be supported for building. It was claimed unstable and removed from build. You will need to get compilation as well as msbuild working right. For now, I’m going to ignore building part, and I’ll focus on getting coreCLR & coreFX working well. On the side, I’ll try to shepherd changes to cli & msbuild so they can properly recognize FreeBSD as a platform. Tomas ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
Sweet! I love the "Thar be Dragons!" warning. :) There are a lot of moving parts to it. The license list gives some indication of the major repositories. These are the ones Tomas is talking about: https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/cli - https://www.microsoft.com/net/dotnet_library_license.htm https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang - Microsoft https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn - A2 ... --- If you're looking to get your barrings, I re-found an awesome doc with lots of great links: https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr/blob/master/Documentation/README.md This also links to the original core 1.x FreeBSD build guide. I lost this one a while back and could never find it. :( Tomas, from reading through your instructions, there seems to be two obstacles and they are both managed code? - corelib - dotnet/coreclr/src/mscorelib seems to be the corelib you are talking about? - corefx - managed code If that's true, then we should definitely give mono a shot at bringing those up. I'm downloading the dotnet/coreclr now. Russ On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Tomas Weinfurt wrote: > First draft is posted here: > https://github.com/dotnet/corefx/wiki/Building-.NET-Core--2.x-on-FreeBSD > Probably incomplete. > It would be good if anybody can take a look, try and improve. > This is essentially equivalent of what has been done for 1.x. > My next step is to have cross-OS tests and get them running on FreeBSD host. > > Tomas > > On 9/16/17, 9:59 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Tomas > Weinfurt via freebsd-mono" freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> wrote: > > I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not get to > it yet. > At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux > instead) > I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so one > can build proper managed assemblies. > Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because Linux > emulation is lacking mincore() support. > > Tomas > > > On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Russell > Haley" > wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. I'm > not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone is > interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers something > more functional and some instructions. > > Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet > Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their > tools (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be good > for status updates and the like? > > Russ > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid > wrote: > > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote: > >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a GitHub > account and > >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. > >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm > not so sure > >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good > place to > >> congregate. > > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source project > before so I > > don't know how much help I could be. > > > > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com) > > GH Account is > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FEcho-8-ERA&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=WqH7%2BN%2BatYCU4BYs5409sZMMHWJPILJnLjGm7m7v988%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Regards, > > Robert Alegrid > ___ > freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=kNqxYsg0HzoF3f3HqGsp3dm1NKsNax9W3lWuntDt7kE%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > ___ > freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C5364f3a7997f4f5b328708d4fd88f28e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412212015989639&sdata=WuwkCpreZpGlwnMGKWQ6kdxBGYKxQAyHrx6IV9MbgKA%3D&reserved=0 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
First draft is posted here: https://github.com/dotnet/corefx/wiki/Building-.NET-Core--2.x-on-FreeBSD Probably incomplete. It would be good if anybody can take a look, try and improve. This is essentially equivalent of what has been done for 1.x. My next step is to have cross-OS tests and get them running on FreeBSD host. Tomas On 9/16/17, 9:59 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Tomas Weinfurt via freebsd-mono" wrote: I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not get to it yet. At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux instead) I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so one can build proper managed assemblies. Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because Linux emulation is lacking mincore() support. Tomas On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Russell Haley" wrote: Hey Guys, Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. I'm not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone is interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers something more functional and some instructions. Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their tools (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be good for status updates and the like? Russ On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid wrote: > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote: >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a GitHub account and >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm not so sure >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good place to >> congregate. > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source project before so I > don't know how much help I could be. > > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com) > GH Account is https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FEcho-8-ERA&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=WqH7%2BN%2BatYCU4BYs5409sZMMHWJPILJnLjGm7m7v988%3D&reserved=0 > > Regards, > Robert Alegrid ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=kNqxYsg0HzoF3f3HqGsp3dm1NKsNax9W3lWuntDt7kE%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C5364f3a7997f4f5b328708d4fd88f28e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412212015989639&sdata=WuwkCpreZpGlwnMGKWQ6kdxBGYKxQAyHrx6IV9MbgKA%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
I’ll get WIKI started with instructions on github. I just did not get to it yet. At least the runtime can be built without windows now. (using Linux instead) I still have some work left to cross-target for FreeBSD on Linux so one can build proper managed assemblies. Attempts to use Linux binaries for bootstrap failed so far because Linux emulation is lacking mincore() support. Tomas On 9/16/17, 9:40 PM, "owner-freebsd-m...@freebsd.org on behalf of Russell Haley" wrote: Hey Guys, Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. I'm not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone is interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers something more functional and some instructions. Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their tools (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be good for status updates and the like? Russ On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid wrote: > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote: >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a GitHub account and >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm not so sure >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good place to >> congregate. > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source project before so I > don't know how much help I could be. > > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com) > GH Account is https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FEcho-8-ERA&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=WqH7%2BN%2BatYCU4BYs5409sZMMHWJPILJnLjGm7m7v988%3D&reserved=0 > > Regards, > Robert Alegrid ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freebsd.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreebsd-mono&data=02%7C01%7CTomas.Weinfurt%40microsoft.com%7C24a4afb4b47f4a7a1d5208d4fd862dab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636412200126651288&sdata=kNqxYsg0HzoF3f3HqGsp3dm1NKsNax9W3lWuntDt7kE%3D&reserved=0 To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
Hey Guys, Tomas has shared a binary with me and warned it's pretty rough. I'm not getting very far with it. I'll share the same link if someone is interested but it's probably best to wait until Tomas offers something more functional and some instructions. Is it possible for someone to start a FreeBSD wiki page for DotNet Core? Tomas and Karel want to keep the progress tracked via their tools (Github accounts etc), but I think a wiki page would be good for status updates and the like? Russ On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Robert Alegrid wrote: > On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote: >> If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a GitHub account and >> send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. >> I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm not so sure >> anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good place to >> congregate. > I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source project before so I > don't know how much help I could be. > > E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com) > GH Account is https://github.com/Echo-8-ERA > > Regards, > Robert Alegrid ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
On Thursday, 14 September 2017 4:24 PM, Russell Haley wrote: > If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a GitHub account and > send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. > I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm not so sure > anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good place to > congregate. I'd like to pitch in. Never participated in an open-source project before so I don't know how much help I could be. E-mail is the same as this message (eraleg...@hotmail.com) GH Account is https://github.com/Echo-8-ERA Regards, Robert Alegrid ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
On 14/09/2017 08:23, Russell Haley wrote: ... If you'd like to participate/join the fun, please set up a GitHub account and send a 'me too' email with the username or email address. I'll send an invite for the FreeBSD-DotNet to that account. I'm not so sure anymore about using GitHub for FreeBSD stuff, but it's a good place to congregate. ... Hi Russ, Count me in (@radovanovic on github, but I think I already have access to your FreeBSD-DotNet, or you forked from me, or something like that) Kind regards, Ivan ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
The .NET Core does not have UI. The intention is to provide platform for tools and server apps. 2.0 added quite a bit API surface. ReadHat now has package for their systems. That may bring attention of some *NIX folks. Tomas On 9/14/17, 12:21 AM, "Romain Tartière" wrote: Hi all, On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 09:05:08AM +0200, Mathieu Prevot wrote: > I'm in. Can't engage formally as I'm quite loaded with work, but I'm rather > familiar with the .NET ecosystem. My knowledge of .NET is really limited, but maybe I could help with problems related to FreeBSD, so please count me in ;-) I am @smortex on GitHub. Regards, Romain -- Romain Tartière http://people.FreeBSD.org/~romain/ pgp: 8234 9A78 E7C0 B807 0B59 80FF BA4D 1D95 5112 336F (ID: 0x5112336F) (plain text =non-HTML= PGP/GPG encrypted/signed e-mail much appreciated) ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
Hi all, On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 09:05:08AM +0200, Mathieu Prevot wrote: > I'm in. Can't engage formally as I'm quite loaded with work, but I'm rather > familiar with the .NET ecosystem. My knowledge of .NET is really limited, but maybe I could help with problems related to FreeBSD, so please count me in ;-) I am @smortex on GitHub. Regards, Romain -- Romain Tartière http://people.FreeBSD.org/~romain/ pgp: 8234 9A78 E7C0 B807 0B59 80FF BA4D 1D95 5112 336F (ID: 0x5112336F) (plain text =non-HTML= PGP/GPG encrypted/signed e-mail much appreciated) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
this mailing list. > > Cheers, > Russ > > [1] My paraphrasing of the situation. I could be totally off base. > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Russell Haley > wrote: > > Does anyone here run Unity? Unity is a very popular gaming engine that > > is cross platform and provides a C# API. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(game_engine) > > > > https://mellinoe.wordpress.com/2017/01/18/net-core-game-engine/ > > > > Kaboom! (Head exploded again. This is getting messy) > > > > Russ > > > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Russell Haley > wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Russell Haley > wrote: > >>> Hey Marcin, > >>> > >>> So I just read the Contribution License Agreement and I didn't see > >>> anything untoward. > >>> > >>> https://cla2.dotnetfoundation.org/cladoc/net-foundation- > contribution-license-agreement.pdf > >>> > >>> Just remember all these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I > >>> think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom! > >>> lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out > >>> there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style > >>> management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer > >>> over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems > >>> (physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great > >>> way to distribute proprietary code. > >>> > >>> Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of > >>> what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system. > >>> > >>> Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways > >>> because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono > >>> has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been > >>> a problem of note. > >>> > >>> Russ > >> > >> I'm trying to perform due diligence because I want to throw some time > >> into this. Avoiding GPL and other encumbering licenses is important to > >> me. I had to know myself so I made this list of licenses: > >> > >> https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang - Microsoft > >> https://github.com/dotnet/cli - > >> https://www.microsoft.com/net/dotnet_library_license.htm > >> > >> https://github.com/dotnet/source-build - MIT > >> https://github.com/dotnet/core-setup - MIT > >> https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - MIT > >> https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr - MIT > >> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT > >> https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-docker - MIT > >> https://github.com/dotnet/standard - MIT > >> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT > >> https://github.com/dotnet/netcorecli-fsc - MIT > >> > >> https://github.com/nuget/home - A2 > >> https://github.com/aspnet/home - A2 > >> https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn - A2 > >> > >> https://github.com/aspnet/Docs - CC > >> https://github.com/dotnet/docs - CC > >> > >> Russ > >> > >>> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley > wrote: > >>>> Sorry for the top post, > >>>> > >>>> Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor > license? This has been one of the concerns of mine (part of the > pedanticism). I didn't get a chance to read the doc itself yet. > >>>> > >>>> Russ > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. > >>>> Original Message > >>>> From: Marcin Cieslak > >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM > >>>> To: Russell Haley > >>>> Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; > freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org > >>>> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hey guys, > >>>>> > >>>>> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about > >>>>> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will > be > >>>>> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been > >>>>> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and > >>>>> type alot). > >>>> > >>>> I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first > published. > >>>> Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there > were > >>>> some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD > sepecific > >>>> sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is > about > >>>> coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs). > >>>> > >>>> It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked > >>>> recently. > >>>> > >>>> I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement > >>>> and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :) > >>>> > >>>> Marcin > >>>> saper on github > ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I >>> think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom! >>> lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out >>> there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style >>> management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer >>> over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems >>> (physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great >>> way to distribute proprietary code. >>> >>> Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of >>> what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system. >>> >>> Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways >>> because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono >>> has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been >>> a problem of note. >>> >>> Russ >> >> I'm trying to perform due diligence because I want to throw some time >> into this. Avoiding GPL and other encumbering licenses is important to >> me. I had to know myself so I made this list of licenses: >> >> https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang - Microsoft >> https://github.com/dotnet/cli - >> https://www.microsoft.com/net/dotnet_library_license.htm >> >> https://github.com/dotnet/source-build - MIT >> https://github.com/dotnet/core-setup - MIT >> https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - MIT >> https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr - MIT >> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT >> https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-docker - MIT >> https://github.com/dotnet/standard - MIT >> https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT >> https://github.com/dotnet/netcorecli-fsc - MIT >> >> https://github.com/nuget/home - A2 >> https://github.com/aspnet/home - A2 >> https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn - A2 >> >> https://github.com/aspnet/Docs - CC >> https://github.com/dotnet/docs - CC >> >> Russ >> >>> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley wrote: >>>> Sorry for the top post, >>>> >>>> Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? >>>> This has been one of the concerns of mine (part of the pedanticism). I >>>> didn't get a chance to read the doc itself yet. >>>> >>>> Russ >>>> >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. >>>> Original Message >>>> From: Marcin Cieslak >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM >>>> To: Russell Haley >>>> Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; >>>> freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD >>>> >>>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey guys, >>>>> >>>>> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about >>>>> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be >>>>> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been >>>>> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and >>>>> type alot). >>>> >>>> I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first >>>> published. >>>> Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were >>>> some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific >>>> sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about >>>> coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs). >>>> >>>> It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked >>>> recently. >>>> >>>> I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement >>>> and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :) >>>> >>>> Marcin >>>> saper on github ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
Does anyone here run Unity? Unity is a very popular gaming engine that is cross platform and provides a C# API. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(game_engine) https://mellinoe.wordpress.com/2017/01/18/net-core-game-engine/ Kaboom! (Head exploded again. This is getting messy) Russ On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Russell Haley wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Russell Haley wrote: >> Hey Marcin, >> >> So I just read the Contribution License Agreement and I didn't see >> anything untoward. >> >> https://cla2.dotnetfoundation.org/cladoc/net-foundation-contribution-license-agreement.pdf >> >> Just remember all these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I >> think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom! >> lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out >> there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style >> management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer >> over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems >> (physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great >> way to distribute proprietary code. >> >> Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of >> what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system. >> >> Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways >> because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono >> has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been >> a problem of note. >> >> Russ > > I'm trying to perform due diligence because I want to throw some time > into this. Avoiding GPL and other encumbering licenses is important to > me. I had to know myself so I made this list of licenses: > > https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang - Microsoft > https://github.com/dotnet/cli - > https://www.microsoft.com/net/dotnet_library_license.htm > > https://github.com/dotnet/source-build - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/core-setup - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-docker - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/standard - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/netcorecli-fsc - MIT > > https://github.com/nuget/home - A2 > https://github.com/aspnet/home - A2 > https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn - A2 > > https://github.com/aspnet/Docs - CC > https://github.com/dotnet/docs - CC > > Russ > >> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley wrote: >>> Sorry for the top post, >>> >>> Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? This >>> has been one of the concerns of mine (part of the pedanticism). I didn't >>> get a chance to read the doc itself yet. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. >>> Original Message >>> From: Marcin Cieslak >>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM >>> To: Russell Haley >>> Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; >>> freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD >>> >>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote: >>> >>>> Hey guys, >>>> >>>> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about >>>> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be >>>> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been >>>> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and >>>> type alot). >>> >>> I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first published. >>> Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were >>> some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific >>> sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about >>> coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs). >>> >>> It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked >>> recently. >>> >>> I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement >>> and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :) >>> >>> Marcin >>> saper on github ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Russell Haley wrote: > Hey Marcin, > > So I just read the Contribution License Agreement and I didn't see > anything untoward. > > https://cla2.dotnetfoundation.org/cladoc/net-foundation-contribution-license-agreement.pdf > > Just remember all these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I > think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom! > lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out > there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style > management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer > over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems > (physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great > way to distribute proprietary code. > > Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of > what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system. > > Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways > because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono > has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been > a problem of note. > > Russ I'm trying to perform due diligence because I want to throw some time into this. Avoiding GPL and other encumbering licenses is important to me. I had to know myself so I made this list of licenses: https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang - Microsoft https://github.com/dotnet/cli - https://www.microsoft.com/net/dotnet_library_license.htm https://github.com/dotnet/source-build - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/core-setup - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-docker - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/standard - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT https://github.com/dotnet/netcorecli-fsc - MIT https://github.com/nuget/home - A2 https://github.com/aspnet/home - A2 https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn - A2 https://github.com/aspnet/Docs - CC https://github.com/dotnet/docs - CC Russ > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley wrote: >> Sorry for the top post, >> >> Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? This >> has been one of the concerns of mine (part of the pedanticism). I didn't >> get a chance to read the doc itself yet. >> >> Russ >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. >> Original Message >> From: Marcin Cieslak >> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM >> To: Russell Haley >> Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; >> freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD >> >> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote: >> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about >>> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be >>> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been >>> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and >>> type alot). >> >> I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first published. >> Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were >> some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific >> sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about >> coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs). >> >> It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked >> recently. >> >> I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement >> and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :) >> >> Marcin >> saper on github ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
Hey Marcin, So I just read the Contribution License Agreement and I didn't see anything untoward. https://cla2.dotnetfoundation.org/cladoc/net-foundation-contribution-license-agreement.pdf Just remember all these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom! lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems (physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great way to distribute proprietary code. Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system. Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been a problem of note. Russ On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley wrote: > Sorry for the top post, > > Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? This > has been one of the concerns of mine (part of the pedanticism). I didn't get > a chance to read the doc itself yet. > > Russ > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. > Original Message > From: Marcin Cieslak > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM > To: Russell Haley > Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; > freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD > > On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about >> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be >> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been >> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and >> type alot). > > I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first published. > Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were > some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific > sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about > coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs). > > It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked > recently. > > I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement > and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :) > > Marcin > saper on github ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
Sorry for the top post, Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? This has been one of the concerns of mine (part of the pedanticism). I didn't get a chance to read the doc itself yet. Russ Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. Original Message From: Marcin Cieslak Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM To: Russell Haley Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; freebsd-advoc...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote: > Hey guys, > > I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about > putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be > followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been > me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and > type alot). I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first published. Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs). It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked recently. I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :) Marcin saper on github ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD
On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote: > Hey guys, > > I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about > putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be > followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been > me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and > type alot). I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first published. Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there were some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepecific sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is about coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs). It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked recently. I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :) Marcin saper on github smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
DotNet Core on FreeBSD
Hey guys, I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and type alot). In terms of technical progress, the developer, Thomas, has said they have eliminated Linux Emulation in DotNet Core 2.0 and are running natively in FreeBSD, but the build is still a little ways off. I think this news is really exciting and I'm eager to port some software. Expect something to drop this coming week and a handover to the community. Cheers, Russ ___ freebsd-mono@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mono To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mono-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
