Re: FreeBSD NFS Client, Windows 2003 NFS server

2006-12-08 Thread Harti Brandt
On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Harti Brandt wrote:

HBOn Thu, 7 Dec 2006, M. Warner Losh wrote:
HB
HBMWLIn message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HBMWLHarti Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
HBMWL: MWLDoes anybody have experience with using FreeBSD 4.x or 6.x NFS 
clients
HBMWL: MWLagainst a Windows 2003 NFS server?  What is the performance 
relative
HBMWL: MWLto using a FreeBSD NFS server?  What is the stability?  Does 
locking
HBMWL: MWLwork?  Does the Windows 2003 server have extensions that grok file
HBMWL: MWLsystem flags?
HBMWL: 
HBMWL: I use this regularily (well, -CURRENT). I have no numbers, but 
performance 
HBMWL: is ok. I have the home directories on a W2003k server and it 'feels' 
fast 
HBMWL: enough.
HBMWL
HBMWLWe see FreeBSD to FreeBSD NFS feeling fast enough for most things, but
HBMWLwhen we do a full build of our system from scratch it takes 10 hours
HBMWLover NFS vs 1 hour on a local disk.  We're worried that if we were to
HBMWLtry to do heavy NFS traffic to a Win2003 server with SFU this would be
HBMWLeven slower.
HB
HBOk. I did a very short test (no time to do much more). Read performance 
HBwith dd if=/nfs/bigfile of=/dev/null bs=4k is around 9MByte/sec. Write 
HBperformance with dd if=/dev/zero of=/nfs/bigfile bs=4k is 4MByte/sec.
HB
HBClient is something around 1GHz with a 100Mbps link. Fileserver is a 
HBdouble proc Xeon with a 1Gbps link. The Server has a load of around 30% 
HB(from the antivirus scanner).
HB
HB72Mbps on a 100Mbps link looks actually ok for me. I've no FreeBSD on a 
HBGigabit link to test with.
HB
HBIf you want I could try to do a buildworld.

Ok. To answer my own mail. A buildworld with a local /usr/src takes 2:50h
on that machine, with /usr/src on the W2003 server 3:50h. Looks not that bad.

harti
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Re: FreeBSD NFS Client, Windows 2003 NFS server

2006-12-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harti Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Harti Brandt wrote:
: 
: HBOn Thu, 7 Dec 2006, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: HB
: HBMWLIn message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: HBMWLHarti Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: HBMWL: MWLDoes anybody have experience with using FreeBSD 4.x or 6.x NFS 
clients
: HBMWL: MWLagainst a Windows 2003 NFS server?  What is the performance 
relative
: HBMWL: MWLto using a FreeBSD NFS server?  What is the stability?  Does 
locking
: HBMWL: MWLwork?  Does the Windows 2003 server have extensions that grok 
file
: HBMWL: MWLsystem flags?
: HBMWL: 
: HBMWL: I use this regularily (well, -CURRENT). I have no numbers, but 
performance 
: HBMWL: is ok. I have the home directories on a W2003k server and it 'feels' 
fast 
: HBMWL: enough.
: HBMWL
: HBMWLWe see FreeBSD to FreeBSD NFS feeling fast enough for most things, but
: HBMWLwhen we do a full build of our system from scratch it takes 10 hours
: HBMWLover NFS vs 1 hour on a local disk.  We're worried that if we were to
: HBMWLtry to do heavy NFS traffic to a Win2003 server with SFU this would be
: HBMWLeven slower.
: HB
: HBOk. I did a very short test (no time to do much more). Read performance 
: HBwith dd if=/nfs/bigfile of=/dev/null bs=4k is around 9MByte/sec. Write 
: HBperformance with dd if=/dev/zero of=/nfs/bigfile bs=4k is 4MByte/sec.
: HB
: HBClient is something around 1GHz with a 100Mbps link. Fileserver is a 
: HBdouble proc Xeon with a 1Gbps link. The Server has a load of around 30% 
: HB(from the antivirus scanner).
: HB
: HB72Mbps on a 100Mbps link looks actually ok for me. I've no FreeBSD on a 
: HBGigabit link to test with.
: HB
: HBIf you want I could try to do a buildworld.
: 
: Ok. To answer my own mail. A buildworld with a local /usr/src takes 2:50h
: on that machine, with /usr/src on the W2003 server 3:50h. Looks not that bad.

So we're talking 33% slower here rather than 90% slower that I see for
my entire product build.  So the speed is similar to what I've seen
over NFS here...

Warner
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Re: FreeBSD NFS Client, Windows 2003 NFS server

2006-12-08 Thread Bruce Evans

On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Harti Brandt wrote:


On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Harti Brandt wrote:



HBOk. I did a very short test (no time to do much more). Read performance
HBwith dd if=/nfs/bigfile of=/dev/null bs=4k is around 9MByte/sec. Write
HBperformance with dd if=/dev/zero of=/nfs/bigfile bs=4k is 4MByte/sec.
HB
HBClient is something around 1GHz with a 100Mbps link. Fileserver is a
HBdouble proc Xeon with a 1Gbps link. The Server has a load of around 30%
HB(from the antivirus scanner).
HB
HB72Mbps on a 100Mbps link looks actually ok for me. I've no FreeBSD on a
HBGigabit link to test with.
HB
HBIf you want I could try to do a buildworld.

Ok. To answer my own mail. A buildworld with a local /usr/src takes 2:50h
on that machine, with /usr/src on the W2003 server 3:50h. Looks not that bad.


Hmm, with such slow machines, network/nfs latency shouldn't be much of a
problem.  Makeworld of a ~5.2 world with a Turion X2 2GHz takes 14:24m here.
About 1m of this time is extra for nfs.  It took a bit of work to reduce
the nfs overhead from a few minutes (about 5?) to only 1.

Bruce
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