Re: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards
M. Warner Losh wrote: : Actually, it appears I'm wrong, and you just haven't read the : message yet. Apparently there have been some commits which : fix your problem for you (though they may be limited to -current). Nope. They have been MFC'd as of April 30th or so. The entire wi driver was back merged at that date. THanks for the clarification... -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message
RE: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards
But it's a standard WaveLAN/Orinico card, which is what the wi driver is intended for? I never had to worry about any of this when I had the old white/bronze 2mbit wavelan cards, but with silver and gold cards, its been nothing but fun and games -Original Message- From: Terry Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 6 May 2002 18:21 To: Martin Minkus Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards Martin Minkus wrote: Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain) Encoding: 7bit [ ... data rate controls on the ifconfig or wicontrol command lines tend to result in unexpexted -- frequently 11Mbit rather than lower -- measured speeds ... ] I guess you will have to suffer with higher than expected data rates? 8-) 8-). Actually, I think it's because the card you are using has a different set of mappings than the firmware for which the commands were intended, and the driver you are using (wi0) happens to work with the card, despite the different firmware. but the magic features don't. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message
Re: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards
Martin Minkus wrote: But it's a standard WaveLAN/Orinico card, which is what the wi driver is intended for? I never had to worry about any of this when I had the old white/bronze 2mbit wavelan cards, but with silver and gold cards, its been nothing but fun and games I suppose I can understand wanting to control the data rate manually because you can, rather than just being happy it works at the highest data rate... The only thing I could suggest would be to contact the driver author directly and/or sign an NDA and get the programming docs yourself. I'm pretty sure Julian could answer yes/no questions about the card speed setttings. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message
Re: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards
Martin Minkus wrote: But it's a standard WaveLAN/Orinico card, which is what the wi driver is intended for? I never had to worry about any of this when I had the old white/bronze 2mbit wavelan cards, but with silver and gold cards, its been nothing but fun and games I suppose I can understand wanting to control the data rate manually because you can, rather than just being happy it works at the highest data rate... The only thing I could suggest would be to contact the driver author directly and/or sign an NDA and get the programming docs yourself. I'm pretty sure Julian could answer yes/no questions about the card speed setttings. Nothing as drastic as that. It is/was a bug and has been fixed: revision 1.100 date: 2002/04/14 23:18:40; author: brooks; state: Exp; lines: +15 -0 Fix tx-rate setting for Lucent cards. John -- John Hay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message
RE: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards
But it's a standard WaveLAN/Orinico card, which is what the wi driver is intended for? I never had to worry about any of this when I had the old white/bronze 2mbit wavelan cards, but with silver and gold cards, its been nothing but fun and games I suppose I can understand wanting to control the data rate manually because you can, rather than just being happy it works at the highest data rate... The only thing I could suggest would be to contact the driver author directly and/or sign an NDA and get the programming docs yourself. I'm pretty sure Julian could answer yes/no questions about the card speed setttings. -- Terry Actually, the reason I wanted to control the data rate was so I could force it to run at 11mbit. I put the 11mbit card in, and it would still only run at 2mbit! I was unhappy I had faster cards, but they still wouldn't work beyond the 2mbit of the old ones I had. That's what got me playing with all these options... Windows XP on my laptop would say the speed its communicating at; but that's actually the speed XP on the laptop is trasmitting at, not receiving. Installing the Orinico client manager, I could see the packets my laptop was sending to the FreeBSD host (100% at 11mbit), and the packets the FreeBSD host was sending back to the laptop (100% at 2mbit). Playing with those options changed what speed it would transmit to me. Oh well. At least I found the magic options that needed to be set to make the card work at 11mbit. Oh, and btw. Leaving it on auto (wicontrol -t 3) it would actually drop from 11mbit to 5.5mbit as the quality dropped off when I was further out of range. So at least auto works too :) Perhaps when I have some spare time I can go look into the wi driver. And perhaps your right, firmware changes on the orinoco cards are the cause of this; I have flashed mine to 8.1 (or whatever the latest firmware is, 8.something). My white wavelan cards were originally firmware 1.0 when I got them :) Martin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message
RE: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards
Martin Minkus wrote: But it's a standard WaveLAN/Orinico card, which is what the wi driver is intended for? I never had to worry about any of this when I had the old white/bronze 2mbit wavelan cards, but with silver and gold cards, its been nothing but fun and games I suppose I can understand wanting to control the data rate manually because you can, rather than just being happy it works at the highest data rate... The only thing I could suggest would be to contact the driver author directly and/or sign an NDA and get the programming docs yourself. I'm pretty sure Julian could answer yes/no questions about the card speed setttings. Nothing as drastic as that. It is/was a bug and has been fixed: revision 1.100 date: 2002/04/14 23:18:40; author: brooks; state: Exp; lines: +15 -0 Fix tx-rate setting for Lucent cards. Oh, okay. silence:~ uname -a FreeBSD silence.diskiller.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #8: Fri Apr 5 21:43:06 CST 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/SILENCE i386 silence:~ April 5. So if I cvsup and make world/build a new kernel, I should have that fix then :) Thanks, Martin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message
Re: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards
In message: 005b01c1f4db$e3563f20$020a@bender Martin Minkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : But it's a standard WaveLAN/Orinico card, which is what the wi driver is : intended for? : : I never had to worry about any of this when I had the old white/bronze : 2mbit wavelan cards, but with silver and gold cards, its been nothing : but fun and games Yea. Terry is wrong here. Ignore what he says, for he knowest not what he talkest about. The wi driver might be getting some of them wrong, but it is impossible to say because you didn't include the version you were using (there was a bug releated to this fixed in the not too distant past). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message
Re: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards
Martin Minkus wrote: Perhaps when I have some spare time I can go look into the wi driver. And perhaps your right, firmware changes on the orinoco cards are the cause of this; I have flashed mine to 8.1 (or whatever the latest firmware is, 8.something). My white wavelan cards were originally firmware 1.0 when I got them :) Actually, it appears I'm wrong, and you just haven't read the message yet. Apparently there have been some commits which fix your problem for you (though they may be limited to -current). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message
Re: 802.11: WaveLAN/Orinoco Cards
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Martin Minkus wrote: : Perhaps when I have some spare time I can go look into the wi driver. : And perhaps your right, firmware changes on the orinoco cards are the : cause of this; I have flashed mine to 8.1 (or whatever the latest : firmware is, 8.something). My white wavelan cards were originally : firmware 1.0 when I got them :) : : : Actually, it appears I'm wrong, and you just haven't read the : message yet. Apparently there have been some commits which : fix your problem for you (though they may be limited to -current). Nope. They have been MFC'd as of April 30th or so. The entire wi driver was back merged at that date. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-net in the body of the message
