Re: SRv6 in FreeBSD
Unix Codenetworks wrote: > Hi Victor, > > | but I'm damned if I know how to put vxlan to good use. > > In term of? Like benefits of using VXLAN in general? Under FreeBSD, yes. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: SRv6 in FreeBSD
Hi Victor, | but I'm damned if I know how to put vxlan to good use. In term of? Like benefits of using VXLAN in general? Cheers Santi On 2019-11-27 15:25, Victor Sudakov wrote: Unix Codenetworks wrote: Hi Victor, I did mention it, as having VXLAN can allow to integrate FreeBSD as an hypervisor/jails into an VXLAN overlay. Probably there will be some other things to sort out, control plane? (depending on deployment type). These words are too generic. For example, vm-bhyve allows to create a vxlan bridge, I now manage 3 vm-bhyve hypervisors with 5-6 VMs in each, but I'm damned if I know how to put vxlan to good use. I'm not aware of any live deployments running FreeBSD and VXLAN. We do have live deployments on Linux using VXLAN ecnap (Linux + tungsten fabric or similar). I will love to know about any live deployment/successful stories on FreeBSD + VXLAN + bhyve and Jails. So will I. ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: SRv6 in FreeBSD
Unix Codenetworks wrote: > Hi Victor, > > I did mention it, as having VXLAN can allow to integrate FreeBSD as an > hypervisor/jails into an VXLAN overlay. Probably there will be some > other things to sort out, control plane? (depending on deployment type). These words are too generic. For example, vm-bhyve allows to create a vxlan bridge, I now manage 3 vm-bhyve hypervisors with 5-6 VMs in each, but I'm damned if I know how to put vxlan to good use. > > I'm not aware of any live deployments running FreeBSD and VXLAN. We do > have live deployments on Linux using VXLAN ecnap (Linux + tungsten > fabric or similar). I will love to know about any live > deployment/successful stories on FreeBSD + VXLAN + bhyve and Jails. So will I. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: SRv6 in FreeBSD
Hi Victor, I did mention it, as having VXLAN can allow to integrate FreeBSD as an hypervisor/jails into an VXLAN overlay. Probably there will be some other things to sort out, control plane? (depending on deployment type). I'm not aware of any live deployments running FreeBSD and VXLAN. We do have live deployments on Linux using VXLAN ecnap (Linux + tungsten fabric or similar). I will love to know about any live deployment/successful stories on FreeBSD + VXLAN + bhyve and Jails. Unfortunately my BSD daily usage is more related to Jails + VNET + FRR and netmap. These amazing tools allow us to quickly "simulate" 10s of CPE devices, generate routes, OSPF/BGP/BFD speakers, and generate traffic while staying away from all the Linux craziness (and other tools are super expensive). It will be nice to do a test and see how good FreeBSD integrates into an existing overlay. I hope it make sense. Santiago On 2019-11-27 05:50, Victor Sudakov wrote: Unix Codenetworks wrote: I'm interesting on the use case, if you don't mind... is it just service chaining you application ? Usually servers are just part of an overlay ( call it VXLAN, MPLS or something over something else...) Once you've mentioned it... What's the use case of vxlan(4) on FreeBSD? I would love to hear a couple of real life examples. ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: SRv6 in FreeBSD
Unix Codenetworks wrote: > > I'm interesting on the use case, if you don't mind... is it just service > chaining you application ? Usually servers are just part of an overlay ( > call it VXLAN, MPLS or something over something else...) Once you've mentioned it... What's the use case of vxlan(4) on FreeBSD? I would love to hear a couple of real life examples. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: SRv6 in FreeBSD
Hey, no prob.. sure lets wait to hear back on the use case that could be interesting :) On 2019-11-26 20:20, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: Hi Rodney, I haven't said that is not approved or an RFC exist (there are many and some interesting use cases) , but can you tell me of any in production deployments? I can not, though for the SRH to be in its current state as a "Standards Track" document there must be running code someplace... and that usually implies production deployments as well, or atleast not small scale tests. The conservatory still there, if you check with your customer, how many are willing to deploy it? I did not mention any customer(s) at all, I stated I was interested in any use case. Open for an offline talk about it as i really like to know if you are seeing other thing.. I do not know that there is much to talk about. Best regards. Santiago On 2019-11-26 11:33, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: Hi Alex, While I'm not a BSD developer, i really doubt it, considering that the building blocks for SR are not there ( mpls support or just label push/pop/swap). He specifically stated SRv6 which is not MPLS based. The building blocsk if one was to need this in a BSD are in OpenBSD which has an MPLS implementation. On the other hand, on SRv6 as you mentioned you rely on IPv6 headers and there is a lot of conservatory about it ( unless you are a Cisco fan!) :-) The SRH is 5 years and 26 revisions into the process and has been "Submitted to IESG for Publication" per: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header/ so it should be possible for someone to do an implementation in FreeBSD I'm interesting on the use case, if you don't mind... is it just service chaining you application ? Usually servers are just part of an overlay ( call it VXLAN,? MPLS? or something over something else...) I would be interested to here the use cases as well. Best regards. Santiago On 2019-11-25 03:43, madhava gaikwad via freebsd-net wrote: Hello Experts, I want to know if there is any effort/planning going on to implement Segment Routing (RFC 8402?https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8402). I see Linux supporting it. Wondering if there is something planned on FreeBSD too.My app runs on FreeBSD and I have a use case to share information from one application gateway to another about connection identity. I thought SRv6 header can help me here. Thank you.Alex. ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: SRv6 in FreeBSD
> Hi Rodney, > > I haven't said that is not approved or an RFC exist (there are many and some > interesting use cases) , but can you tell me of any in production deployments? I can not, though for the SRH to be in its current state as a "Standards Track" document there must be running code someplace... and that usually implies production deployments as well, or atleast not small scale tests. > > The conservatory still there, if you check with your customer, how many are > willing to deploy it? I did not mention any customer(s) at all, I stated I was interested in any use case. > > Open for an offline talk about it as i really like to know if you are seeing > other thing.. I do not know that there is much to talk about. > Best regards. > > Santiago > > > > On 2019-11-26 11:33, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > >> Hi Alex, > >> > >> While I'm not a BSD developer, i really doubt it, considering that the > >> building blocks for SR are not there ( mpls support or just label > >> push/pop/swap). > > He specifically stated SRv6 which is not MPLS based. > > The building blocsk if one was to need this in a BSD are in > > OpenBSD which has an MPLS implementation. > > > >> On the other hand, on SRv6 as you mentioned you rely on IPv6 headers and > >> there is a lot of conservatory about it ( unless you are a Cisco fan!) > > :-) The SRH is 5 years and 26 revisions into the process and has > > been "Submitted to IESG for Publication" per: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header/ > > so it should be possible for someone to do an implementation in FreeBSD > > > >> I'm interesting on the use case, if you don't mind... is it just service > >> chaining you application ? Usually servers are just part of an overlay ( > >> call it VXLAN,? MPLS? or something over something else...) > > I would be interested to here the use cases as well. > > > >> Best regards. > >> > >> Santiago > >> > >> > >> On 2019-11-25 03:43, madhava gaikwad via freebsd-net wrote: > >>> Hello Experts, > >>> I want to know if there is any effort/planning going on to implement > >>> Segment Routing (RFC 8402?https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8402). I see > >>> Linux supporting it. Wondering if there is something planned on FreeBSD > >>> too.My app runs on FreeBSD and I have a use case to share information > >>> from one application gateway to another about connection identity. I > >>> thought SRv6 header can help me here. > >>> Thank you.Alex. > >>> ___ > >>> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > >> ___ > >> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > ___ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: SRv6 in FreeBSD
> Hi Alex, > > While I'm not a BSD developer, i really doubt it, considering that the > building blocks for SR are not there ( mpls support or just label > push/pop/swap). He specifically stated SRv6 which is not MPLS based. The building blocsk if one was to need this in a BSD are in OpenBSD which has an MPLS implementation. > > On the other hand, on SRv6 as you mentioned you rely on IPv6 headers and > there is a lot of conservatory about it ( unless you are a Cisco fan!) :-) The SRH is 5 years and 26 revisions into the process and has been "Submitted to IESG for Publication" per: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header/ so it should be possible for someone to do an implementation in FreeBSD > > I'm interesting on the use case, if you don't mind... is it just service > chaining you application ? Usually servers are just part of an overlay ( > call it VXLAN,? MPLS? or something over something else...) I would be interested to here the use cases as well. > > Best regards. > > Santiago > > > On 2019-11-25 03:43, madhava gaikwad via freebsd-net wrote: > > Hello Experts, > > I want to know if there is any effort/planning going on to implement > > Segment Routing (RFC 8402?https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8402). I see Linux > > supporting it. Wondering if there is something planned on FreeBSD too.My > > app runs on FreeBSD and I have a use case to share information from one > > application gateway to another about connection identity. I thought SRv6 > > header can help me here. > > Thank you.Alex. > > ___ > > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > -- Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: SRv6 in FreeBSD
Hi Alex, While I'm not a BSD developer, i really doubt it, considering that the building blocks for SR are not there ( mpls support or just label push/pop/swap). On the other hand, on SRv6 as you mentioned you rely on IPv6 headers and there is a lot of conservatory about it ( unless you are a Cisco fan!) I'm interesting on the use case, if you don't mind... is it just service chaining you application ? Usually servers are just part of an overlay ( call it VXLAN, MPLS or something over something else...) Best regards. Santiago On 2019-11-25 03:43, madhava gaikwad via freebsd-net wrote: Hello Experts, I want to know if there is any effort/planning going on to implement Segment Routing (RFC 8402 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8402). I see Linux supporting it. Wondering if there is something planned on FreeBSD too.My app runs on FreeBSD and I have a use case to share information from one application gateway to another about connection identity. I thought SRv6 header can help me here. Thank you.Alex. ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
SRv6 in FreeBSD
Hello Experts, I want to know if there is any effort/planning going on to implement Segment Routing (RFC 8402 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8402). I see Linux supporting it. Wondering if there is something planned on FreeBSD too.My app runs on FreeBSD and I have a use case to share information from one application gateway to another about connection identity. I thought SRv6 header can help me here. Thank you.Alex. ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
