Re: ports/118213: games/HeroesOfMightAndMagic - heroesOfMightAndMagic's doesn't work correctly

[Marcus von Appen]

After some more investigation it turns out to be some side effect of the
sound changes made on 2006-11-26.
The game works fine using a kernel before that change, later ones (but
before the linuxulator mmap changes between 2007-02-15 and 2007-02-16)
cause a hard reboot.

The responsible parties, emulation@ and ariff@ are informed and I'm
waiting for a possible solution.

Regards
Marcus


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Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

[eculp]

The dialog at the end of this email is becoming a bit more  
philosophical than I need right now ;).


Is there an "accepted" or reasonably so, sure-fire way to get linux  
flash[79] working in Prerelease or in current?  If so, would you  
please share how you did it on this list?


Flash is becoming more dominate daily and there are many sites that  
are basically unusable without it.  Some banking, telco, etc. sites,  
etc.  That are difficult if not impossible too use for account access  
without flash and don't pay much attention to end user requests based  
on the installed base of Flash[89].  That brings up another detail,  
many sites now require Flash[89] even though they don't actually need  
it probably to impress their customers with their being on the  
technological, bleeding edge.


Thanks, Chuck, for getting this started and for finding a solution  
that may or may not be appropriate for all.  I would personally like  
to try what you have done with flash9 if it is stable for you and if  
you would be so kind as to document a bit clearer how to do it.


Thanks to all,

ed

Quoting Alexander Leidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Quoting Chuck Robey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:54:31 -0500):


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> Quoting Chuck Robey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:05:16
> -0500):
>
>> I actually got the linux flash9 working.  Why didn't I post it, put in a
>> patch?  Because one of the main reasons that it doesn't work now is the
>> insane way that much Linux libraries are installed.  If folks would honor
>
> Would you mind telling us how, so that we understand the problem?
>
>> hier(7) then  all linux libs would go into /usr/compat/usr/lib, but
>> instead, many linux ports (including browsers, believe me) install into
>> $(PREFIX)/lib/libsubdir.  This means every single linux app that uses
>> linux
>> libs hsa to be run with a shell wrapper, artificially extending the
>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH.  Since no porter of an app installing libs knows all the
>> ports that might use their libs, random breakages are the rule of the
>> day,
>> to say nothing of the egregious harm to security this kind of strategy
>> causes.  It's a big reason why the flash things don't work.  Want proof?
>> Go use the linux ldd to see just how long the list of libraries is, that
>> those extensions use, then  you'll begin to see.  Not all those libs are
>> browser products, either.  Have fun trying to get a wrapper to work
>> there.
>>
>> I volunteered to fix this situation all myself, if only the ports
>> management would give me written agreement that the strategy I decry
>> is in
>> fact bad software practice, so that I may point to that document to port
>> authors, when I ask for permission to edit their work.  Ports management
>> hasn't seen fit to reply, or at least, I haven't seen it if they did.  I
>> don't intend to force anyone, but without having ports mangement
>> backing, I
>> am NOT going to have this argument with every porter, no way.  I tried
>> that
>> once, and at least one fellow told me he thought that requiring every
>> linux
>> application to have it's own wrapper was the "cleaner" way to go.
>> Huh, if
>> that's so, then I guess I should be stopped anyhow.  You think that way?
>
> I think you are referring to me here. I think the important part to
> understand my opinion to install end-user applications into PREFIX
> instead of LINUXPREFIX (note: linux library ports _have_ to go to
> LINUXBASE) is missing here.

In fact, I have never been at all good at remembering names, to the point
that I no longer even try.  I haven't the faintest idea (even now) if it
was you or not.  If it pleases you, though, that's fine, assume away.  I
don't think I was insulting, I have made enough of an ass of myself in the
past to realize the folly of being sarcastic (it always comes back to bite
you).


I didn't understand it as insulting.


> No user shall have subdirs of LINUXPREFIX in his path. This would open
> up Pandorra's box.

OK, need to stop you here.  I don't know what that LINUXPREFIX item is.  I


It was either my mispelling of LINUXBASE, or my failed try to make a
distinction between the user chosen prefix for two different
"management domains". Chose the error you like more. ;-)


just grepped for it in /usr/ports subdirs Mk, emulators, and www (recursive
one), and even did an apropos.  I did a bit of googling and found a
LINUXPREFIX in some Linux docs, is that the one you're referring to?
What's it mean, how's it used?

Regardless, please, could you explain why it would open up Pandora's Box?
Maybe if I could have a better handle on what it is, I might not ask that
question, but I can't, so I'm asking.


If an user has the bin directories in the LINUXBASE in his path
 - he may accidentally execute linux programs when FreeBSD programs
   may be required
 - a configure run may detect linux things and enable stuff which
   is not valid

Re: enigmail

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

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martinko wrote:
> Alex Dupre wrote:
>> Chuck Robey wrote:
>>> There's a mail/engimail, but there's also a
>>> mail/enigmail-seamonkey, and it's that latter one that has no
>>> description, not even a plist to help out.  If I already have a
>>> Seamonkey that I like, which should I install?
>>
>> enigmail-seamonkey
>>
>> -- Alex Dupre
>
> I wonder why port_version shows me the following:
>
> seamonkey-enigmail-0.95.5   <  needs updating (port has 0.95.6)
>
> even though there is no such port and I cannot see it in MOVED
> either.

This is due to a committ Mezz made a few weeks ago to make it so
Mozilla was no longer the only depend that satisified the requirment
for having a mozilla compatible rendering engine.

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Re: enigmail

[martinko]

Alex Dupre wrote:

Chuck Robey wrote:

There's a mail/engimail, but there's also a mail/enigmail-seamonkey, and
it's that latter one that has no description, not even a plist to help
out.  If I already have a Seamonkey that I like, which should I install?


enigmail-seamonkey

--
Alex Dupre


I wonder why port_version shows me the following:

seamonkey-enigmail-0.95.5   <  needs updating (port has 0.95.6)

even though there is no such port and I cannot see it in MOVED either.

M.

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Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

[Thierry Thomas]

Le Dim 13 jan 08 à 15:25:15 +0100, eculp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 écrivait :

> Is there an "accepted" or reasonably so, sure-fire way to get linux  
> flash[79] working in Prerelease or in current?  If so, would you  
> please share how you did it on this list?

Well, I have a working flashplugin 7, on FreeBSD-6 and FreeBSD-7.
I have'nt configured anything special: just install
www/linux-flashplugin7, and then www/nspluginwrapper.
After that, follow the instructions in the pkg-message:
nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
(for each user)

This is working for the native firefox & seamonkey.

It seems that flashplugin 8 has never been ported to FreeBSD (I don't
know why), and flashplugin 9 is reported as not working.

Regards,
-- 
Th. Thomas.


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Re: Suggested improvements for ports

[Frank J. Laszlo]

Doug Barton wrote:

Dominic Fandrey wrote:

Paul Schmehl wrote:

1) You can't build a dependent port and first set the config for the
options that you want.  So, when you select sasl in postfix, you never
get the chance to check the saslauthd option, for example.


As the ports man page states:

# make config-recursive

does what you want. It's surprising how often people claim this 
feature is
missing, even though it has been there ever since I started using 
FreeBSD.


And it's surprising how often people don't listen when I explain that 
config-recursive is not a complete solution. :) It builds the list 
first, so that if you enable an option that creates a dependency on 
another port it will be missed. Portmaster does not have that 
limitation because it runs 'make config' before doing the dependency 
check for each port.


Doug



As a workaround, you can run 'make config-recursive' multiple times 
until it will no longer pull up config dialogs. This will catch those 
extra dependencies created by checking options during the process.


-Frank
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Re: CFT: Adobe Reader 8 + SCIM/UIM

[Hiroki Sato]

Nikola Lečić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
  in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

ni> 3. Now acroread7 doesn't work (for me at least), with all SCIM-related
ni>environment variables schemes. It just returns me back to the shell
ni>prompt without any error message;
ni> 
ni> 4. However, if I use the environment scheme I suggested in my previous
ni>mail and change GTK_IM_MODULE/XMODIFIERS in acroread7 startup
ni>script as proposed, all applications work, and SCIM in them.

 From further investigation, the cause of this problem turns out to be
 as follows:

 a) When GTK_IM_MODULE=xim and one runs a Linux binary that uses
linux-gtk2 library, the binary uses im-xim.so in linux-gtk2 and it
works.

 b) When GTK_IM_MODULE=scim (or other than xim) and one runs a Linux
binary that uses linux-gtk2 library, the binary tries to load the
corresponding immodule file.  If the corresponding file is found
in /usr/compat/linux/usr/lib/gtk-2.0 (i.e. Linux binary), it is
loaded and should work fine.  If the corresponding file is found
in /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0 (i.e. FreeBSD native binary), it is
loaded but does not work.  In the latter case, if the loading
fails gracefully, it falls back into loading im-xim.so.

 c) acroread7 works only with im-xim.so and loading FreeBSD binary
fails gracefully.  This means setting GTK_IM_MODULE=scim falls
back into GTK_IM_MODULE=xim automatically. (probably this is the
reason why GTK_IM_MODULE=scim + QT_IM_MODULE=scim +
[EMAIL PROTECTED] works.)

 d) acroread8 works with both im-xim.so and im-scim.so as far as I can
check, and loading FreeBSD binary makes the process get hosed.

 So, the individual cases can be classified as follows:

 - acroread7 + GTK_IM_MODULE=xim + [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   -> should work.  @im=foo other than SCIM also works.

 - acroread7 + GTK_IM_MODULE=scim

   -> should work.  Even if FreeBSD native im-scim.so exists it is
  always ignored and XIM is used.  Note that if Linux im-scim.so
  exists it prevents the acroread7 from working, but there is no
  port of im-scim.so in the Ports Collection now.

 - acroread8 + GTK_IM_MODULE=xim + [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   -> should work.  @im=foo other than SCIM also works.

 - acroread8 + GTK_IM_MODULE=scim

   -> does not work unless Linux im-scim.so exists.  If FreeBSD native
  im-scim.so exists the acroread8 process gets hosed (no fall-back
  happens).

 So, the safest way to loading Linux version of im-xim.so is setting
 GTK_IM_MODULE=xim forcibly.  And if setting XMODIFIERS properly there
 should be little difference in its behavior from the user's point of
 view.

 I pondered over adding ports of the Linux immodules in my previous
 post or a hack for GTK_IM_MODULE variable into print/acroreadwrapper,
 but I think changing acroreadwrapper is better.  A patch for
 acroreadwrapper that sets GTK_IM_MODULE=xim forcibly and sets
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] according to GTK_IM_MODULE, has been attached.

 However, in your post you said when GTK_IM_MODULE=xim +
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], the behavior is bad.  Could you elaborate it?  I
 could not reproduce it.

-- 
| Hiroki SATO
Index: Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/print/acroreadwrapper/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$NetBSD:.*\$ -I\$OpenBSD:.*\$ -I\$DragonFly:.*\$ 
-I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$Translation:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.9 Makefile
--- Makefile4 Jan 2008 20:20:20 -   1.9
+++ Makefile11 Jan 2008 14:25:27 -
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 #

 PORTNAME=  acroreadwrapper
-PORTVERSION=   0.0.20071020
+PORTVERSION=   0.0.20080110
 CATEGORIES=print
 MASTER_SITES=  # empty
 DISTFILES= # empty
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@
 ADOBEBASE= Adobe
 ACROBASE7= ${ADOBEBASE}/Acrobat7.0
 ACROBASE8= ${ADOBEBASE}/Reader8
-PLUGINDIR= lib/browser_linux_plugins
+PLUGINDIR= lib/npapi/linux-acroread

 do-fetch:
@${DO_NADA}
Index: files/acroread.in
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/print/acroreadwrapper/files/acroread.in,v
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$NetBSD:.*\$ -I\$OpenBSD:.*\$ -I\$DragonFly:.*\$ 
-I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$Translation:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.5 acroread.in
--- files/acroread.in   4 Jan 2008 20:20:20 -   1.5
+++ files/acroread.in   11 Jan 2008 14:28:58 -
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!%%LINUXBASE%%/bin/sh
+#!/bin/sh
 # $FreeBSD: ports/print/acroreadwrapper/files/acroread.in,v 1.5 2008/01/04 
20:20:20 hrs Exp $

 # environment variables:
@@ -13,6 +13,14 @@
 # When this script is invoked as "acroread7" and "acroread8",
 # ADOBE_VER is automatically set.
 #
+# ADOBE_DISABLEIMMODULEHACK:
+# This script sets GTK_IM_MODULE as "xim" by default because
+# immodules other than xim require the corresponding module files
+# in Linux binary, not FreeBSD native versions (if a FreeBSD
+# native immodule library exists and t

Re: enigmail

[Jeremy Messenger]

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:38 -0600, Aryeh M. Friedman  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



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martinko wrote:

Alex Dupre wrote:

Chuck Robey wrote:

There's a mail/engimail, but there's also a
mail/enigmail-seamonkey, and it's that latter one that has no
description, not even a plist to help out.  If I already have a
Seamonkey that I like, which should I install?


enigmail-seamonkey

-- Alex Dupre


I wonder why port_version shows me the following:

seamonkey-enigmail-0.95.5   <  needs updating (port has 0.95.6)

even though there is no such port and I cannot see it in MOVED
either.


This is due to a committ Mezz made a few weeks ago to make it so
Mozilla was no longer the only depend that satisified the requirment
for having a mozilla compatible rendering engine.


No, I haven't commit any enigmail nor mozilla in FreeBSD ports.

http://www.freshports.org/mail/enigmail-seamonkey/

It said that 0.95.6 and exists.

# cd /usr/ports/mail/enigmail-seamonkey/
# make -V PORTVERSION
0.95.6

Cheers,
Mezz


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Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

[eculp]

Quoting Thierry Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Le Dim 13 jan 08 à 15:25:15 +0100, eculp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 écrivait :


Is there an "accepted" or reasonably so, sure-fire way to get linux
flash[79] working in Prerelease or in current?  If so, would you
please share how you did it on this list?


Well, I have a working flashplugin 7, on FreeBSD-6 and FreeBSD-7.
I have'nt configured anything special: just install
www/linux-flashplugin7, and then www/nspluginwrapper.
After that, follow the instructions in the pkg-message:
nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
(for each user)

This is working for the native firefox & seamonkey.


Thanks, Thierry.

I probably have something wrong and there are many variables.  If I may ask,
which linux emulator and kernel are you using and are you using AMD or  
i386 distributions?  I'm assuming there could very well be differences  
with these.


I'm going to uninstall all the related ports and completely erase the  
leftover garbage and try again to see what happens.


Thanks again,

ed



It seems that flashplugin 8 has never been ported to FreeBSD (I don't
know why), and flashplugin 9 is reported as not working.

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Re: enigmail

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

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Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:38 -0600, Aryeh M. Friedman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> martinko wrote:
 Alex Dupre wrote:
> Chuck Robey wrote:
>> There's a mail/engimail, but there's also a
>> mail/enigmail-seamonkey, and it's that latter one that
>> has no description, not even a plist to help out.  If I
>> already have a Seamonkey that I like, which should I
>> install?
>
> enigmail-seamonkey
>
> -- Alex Dupre

 I wonder why port_version shows me the following:

 seamonkey-enigmail-0.95.5   <  needs updating (port has
 0.95.6)

 even though there is no such port and I cannot see it in
 MOVED either.
>
> This is due to a committ Mezz made a few weeks ago to make it so
> Mozilla was no longer the only depend that satisified the
> requirment for having a mozilla compatible rendering engine.
>
>> No, I haven't commit any enigmail nor mozilla in FreeBSD ports.

I was refering to the 5:1 patch
>
>> http://www.freshports.org/mail/enigmail-seamonkey/
>
>> It said that 0.95.6 and exists.
>
>> # cd /usr/ports/mail/enigmail-seamonkey/ # make -V PORTVERSION
>> 0.95.6
>
>> Cheers, Mezz
>
>>
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Re: enigmail

[Jeremy Messenger]

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:24:12 -0600, Aryeh M. Friedman  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



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Jeremy Messenger wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:38 -0600, Aryeh M. Friedman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

martinko wrote:

Alex Dupre wrote:

Chuck Robey wrote:

There's a mail/engimail, but there's also a
mail/enigmail-seamonkey, and it's that latter one that
has no description, not even a plist to help out.  If I
already have a Seamonkey that I like, which should I
install?


enigmail-seamonkey

-- Alex Dupre


I wonder why port_version shows me the following:

seamonkey-enigmail-0.95.5   <  needs updating (port has
0.95.6)

even though there is no such port and I cannot see it in
MOVED either.


This is due to a committ Mezz made a few weeks ago to make it so
Mozilla was no longer the only depend that satisified the
requirment for having a mozilla compatible rendering engine.


No, I haven't commit any enigmail nor mozilla in FreeBSD ports.


I was refering to the 5:1 patch


You mean by this?

http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/gecko-ports.diff

If yes, then his problem has nothing to do with this. If no, then I don't  
understand the '5:1 patch'.


Cheers,
Mezz


http://www.freshports.org/mail/enigmail-seamonkey/



It said that 0.95.6 and exists.



# cd /usr/ports/mail/enigmail-seamonkey/ # make -V PORTVERSION
0.95.6



Cheers, Mezz

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Re: enigmail

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>
>> You mean by this?
>
>> http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/gecko-ports.diff

Yes remember when I tested I said I had recompiled enigmail for other
reasons (I thought so at least but then this report) and got a simelar
message on firefox (re-installing from a new distfile did the trick)

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Re: enigmail

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You mean by this?



http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/diff/gecko-ports.diff


Yes remember when I tested I said I had recompiled enigmail for other
reasons (I thought so at least but then this report) and got a simelar
message on firefox (re-installing from a new distfile did the trick)


It was about Thunderbird and enigmail with USE_GCC stuff. My patch above  
has nothing to do with that and martinko's problem and I have not commit  
this patch in FreeBSD ports tree yet. My patch is for any applications to  
not have to set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME or/and LD_LIBRARY_PATH anymore to avoid  
crash or can't run in runtime.


As for the martinko's issue:

# cd /usr/ports/mail/enigmail-seamonkey
# make -V PKGNAME
seamonkey-enigmail-0.95.6

I think it's where martinko got confuse for think mail/seamonkey-enigmail  
instead of mail/enigmail-seamonkey.


Cheers,
Mezz


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Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

[Thierry Thomas]

Le Dim 13 jan 08 à 19:21:50 +0100, eculp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 écrivait :

> I probably have something wrong and there are many variables.  If I may ask,
> which linux emulator and kernel are you using and are you using AMD or  
> i386 distributions?  I'm assuming there could very well be differences  
> with these.

Just i386, no amd64, and I run the default linuxolator
(linux_base-fc-4_10 ATM).

> I'm going to uninstall all the related ports and completely erase the  
> leftover garbage and try again to see what happens.

Good luck!
-- 
Th. Thomas.
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Re: Oracle SQL Developer

[martinko]

Marcin Cieslak wrote:

martinko wrote:

Hallo,

Would someone care to port Oracle's SQL Developer to FreeBSD, please ?




Many thanks in advance!


There is actually nothing to port, just download the non-JRE platform
independent zip file, unpack and run "bash sqldeveloper" from
sqldeveloper/sqldeveloper/bin directory.

Works for me (7.0-BETA3 on amd64, self-compiled sun jdk15 from ports).

--Marcin




Well,

I've tried it on 6-STABLE (6.2.something) and it got stuck at splash 
screen.  Btw, I've noticed output like this in terminal:


expr: illegal option -- X
usage: expr [-e] expression
expr: illegal option -- D
usage: expr [-e] expression

Also, all the scripts use #!/bin/bash which doesn't work in FreeBSD.
And I'd like to install it in /usr/local/... so that all users can use 
it and it can be included in portaudit checks and checked for upgrades 
via ports system, etc etc.


Thanks,

Martin

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Micropolis port

[ros]

I discover this afternoon Micropolis, the renamed "Sim City" game
who is now open source (see
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/12/1846256&from=rss)

I really was a addicted to this game so I decide to try a port to FreeBSD
At this point and after a few fixes the code compile without errors, and
a binary is generate.

The problem is after launching the application I'm no more able to
interact with the application windows. I'm not a good X developer so if
anyone want to check it It will helps.

The code modified is available here :
http://www.bebik.net/~rodrigo/freebsd-ports/micropolis-activity-freebsd-0.1.tgz

To compile it, untar the archive, go to the micropolis-activity/src
directory and start a 'make all'

After compilation make a symbolic link from micropolis-activity/sim to
micropolis-activity/src/sim/sim with
% ln -s micropolis-activity/src/sim/sim sim

and launch sim !

Requirement (as I can see):
* tcl/tk
* xlib

Thanks for your help !

- rodrigo

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Re: Suggested improvements for ports

[John E Hein]

Doug Barton wrote at 13:45 -0800 on Jan 12, 2008:
 > I have actually advocated in the past that ALL ports should have version 
 > numbers, and that we then create virtual ports (symlinks, whatever) that 
 > point to whatever is the "current" version of that software. Different 
 > developers dislike that idea for different reasons, but my opinion is 
 > still that from the user perspective this would make life a lot easier.

I do this for a site-wide nfs shared installed apps dir at work
(ignoring the many edge cases, it's basically this: install to
PREFIX=/site/dist/${PKGNAME} and make sym links to /site/bin,
/site/lib).  It's not particularly easy given the current ports
propensity to have everything in /usr/local, but I find it worthwhile.
It does make life easier (for both users and admins) for at least a
few reasons:

 - multiple versions of the same port can co-exist (sometimes until a
   newer one is proven to work)

 - live upgrades don't affect people that may be running an older
   version of a port since the old port is still around (and
   just re-pointing a sym link to the new version doesn't make
   an existing running instance of a program fail).

 - updates are generally transparent to users

 - having a common shared nfs dir means only having to install
   a port once and all machines instantly get access.

I have my own hacks to the port tree to accomodate this strategy.  And
no, I won't publish them as they are quite hacky in places, but if
there were moves in the direction you describe (not likely as far as I
can see due to resistance of the kind you described - and it's not a
particularly small task to support something like this officially), I
could chime in about how I've been doing it for the last 10 years.
Ports based on pkg-config have made this much easier, and for those
ports I almost don't have to do anything special at all except set
PREFIX to point somewhere other than /usr/local.

It's had some bumps in the road over the years, but it mostly just
works now.

I must say it's been much nicer now that the pointyhat checks for
ports that don't handle PREFIX properly.  10 years ago that was a much
more prevalent problem.
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