Re: chromium iconify-resurrect

2014-09-02 Thread Lars Engels
On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 06:02:53PM -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I am curious if this is a problem that anyone else is seeing.
 chromium 37.0.2062.94, current r269700M
 
 Start up chromium, then immediately iconify it. Then try bringing it
 back again.  All I get (after a delay of several seconds) is a white
 canvas in the correct size.  Chromium does respond to window manager
 commands (fvwm close, no destroy needed, in my case).
 

Yup, same on PC-BSD.


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[QAT] 366822: 4x leftovers

2014-09-02 Thread Ports-QAT
Update to 1.0.4.

PR: 192030
Submitted by:   m...@ozzmosis.com
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  Revision:  366822
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Port:net/binkd 1.0.4

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Re: chromium iconify-resurrect

2014-09-02 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Russell L. Carter (rcar...@pinyon.org):

 Start up chromium, then immediately iconify it. Then try bringing it
 back again.  All I get (after a delay of several seconds) is a white
 canvas in the correct size.  Chromium does respond to window manager
 commands (fvwm close, no destroy needed, in my case).

Same here. Workaround: using (Un)stick from the windows commands
brings back the window content (without having to exit chrome).

Regards,
Christoph

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[QAT] 366827: 4x leftovers, 4x success, 4x depend (??? in print/texlive-docs)

2014-09-02 Thread Ports-QAT
Split print/texlive-texmf into two ports, texlive-texmf and
texlive-texmf-source.

PR: 193202
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  Build ID:  20140831202401-3144
  Job owner: h...@freebsd.org
  Buildtime: 36 hours
  Enddate:   Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:45:37 GMT

  Revision:  366827
  Repository:
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revisionrevision=366827

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Port:print/texlive-full 20140525_1

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  Buildstatus:   DEPEND (??? IN PRINT/TEXLIVE-DOCS)
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  Buildstatus:   DEPEND (??? IN PRINT/TEXLIVE-DOCS)
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  Buildstatus:   SUCCESS
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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer

On 9/1/14, 7:59 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote:

Julian Elischer wrote:

You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and
operations
department

You work for the same company as me?

in a past life, they were a customer.



some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 machines
for no real reason (from their perspective).



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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer

On 9/1/14, 8:03 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:

On 2014.09.01 21:39, Julian Elischer wrote:

sigh..  when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in
business is
that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your
choice.
The custommers require it..
You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and
operations
department some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300
machines
for no real reason (from their perspective).

FreeBSD minor version upgrades are meant to be non-disruptive. However, I will
admit that I have not performed any such upgrades in a critical environment, so
if you think they are disruptive, please enlighten me with the details.
Also, there are options out there for getting support for extended periods if
you need it. Some companies are built around providing support for things that
the original developers have long abandoned because some businesses need it.


It's not how disruptive they are technically.
it's how many months of shakedown testing you have to go through 
before they

allow you to put new software on any production system.

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Alban Hertroys
On 2 September 2014 11:08, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On 9/1/14, 8:03 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:

 On 2014.09.01 21:39, Julian Elischer wrote:

 sigh..  when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in
 business is
 that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your
 choice.
 The custommers require it..
 You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and
 operations
 department some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300
 machines
 for no real reason (from their perspective).

 FreeBSD minor version upgrades are meant to be non-disruptive. However, I
 will
 admit that I have not performed any such upgrades in a critical
 environment, so
 if you think they are disruptive, please enlighten me with the details.
 Also, there are options out there for getting support for extended periods
 if
 you need it. Some companies are built around providing support for things
 that
 the original developers have long abandoned because some businesses need
 it.


 It's not how disruptive they are technically.
 it's how many months of shakedown testing you have to go through before they
 allow you to put new software on any production system.

Just adding here, in commercial environments things don't change
quickly or easily. Whether this applies to the current issue with pkg
is not for me to say.

For example, certain commercial upstream software vendors require to
go through a certification process before they even consider
supporting the new software you intend to use with theirs.

Admittedly we haven't run into this issue in relation to FreeBSD, but
we certainly have with Firefox. As an example, the last version of
Firefox that Information Builders' WebFOCUS 7.7 supports is 3.6.7
(currently available versions are 31 or 32!) and for Internet Explorer
that's 7 (currently at 11).
If you run into any kind of problem, the standard answer is to use a
browser that they support. Good luck with that!
Firefox 3.6.7 was released on July 20, 2010; over 4 years ago.

In such cases you're more or less required to keep an old system
around that still has such old packages, if only to see if you can
reproduce any issues you encounter (with modern versions of your
software) on those old versions.

With the deprecation of the old pkg_* tools you run into a conflict;
You can either update packages that are _not_ under certification for
such a vendor and get security updates and fixes using the new pkg, or
you have to stick with the certified software and _not_ get any
security updates or fixes.


It gets more interesting if you have to deal with manufacturing
processes (something we're looking to use FreeBSD for to replace our
current OpenVMS systems before they go out of support), as often
automatons write data to external databases and such software resides
in PLC's. Manufacturing equipment tends to age and the kind of
external databases they support is limited to what was available when
they were new and the capabilities of the PLC involved.

I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get
impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand
that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but
software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time.

Just saying...
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2014-09-02 Thread portscout
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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Robert Backhaus
On 2 September 2014 13:30, Michelle Sullivan miche...@sorbs.net wrote:

 Andrew Berg wrote:
  On 2014.09.01 22:09, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
 
  That's my point - there was a patch waiting to submit that knowingly
  broke pkg_install at midnight on the day after the EOL... the EOL
  shouldn't be an EOL - because it was really a 'portsnap after this date
  before you upgrade and you're screwed it won't work any more at all...'
 
  As Peter outlined, this EOL was announced long ago, and it was mentioned
 at
  least once that it was to allow breaking changes. There really would be
 no
  reason to drop support for it in the ports tree if there were no plans
 to make
  changes.
 

 The point is the EOL was not an EOL, it was a deadline, either switch or
 you're screwed, and it was communicated as an EOL not as a here's a
 deadline, switch or you're screwed

 --
 Michelle Sullivan
 http://www.mhix.org/


The point is the EOL was *actually* an EOL: a deadline, either switch or
you're screwed, and it was communicated as an EOL: a here's a
deadline, switch or you're screwed
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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Marcus von Appen

Alban Hertroys haram...@gmail.com:


On 2 September 2014 11:08, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote:

On 9/1/14, 8:03 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:


On 2014.09.01 21:39, Julian Elischer wrote:


sigh..  when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in
business is
that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your
choice.
The custommers require it..
You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and
operations
department some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300
machines
for no real reason (from their perspective).


FreeBSD minor version upgrades are meant to be non-disruptive. However, I
will
admit that I have not performed any such upgrades in a critical
environment, so
if you think they are disruptive, please enlighten me with the details.
Also, there are options out there for getting support for extended periods
if
you need it. Some companies are built around providing support for things
that
the original developers have long abandoned because some businesses need
it.



It's not how disruptive they are technically.
it's how many months of shakedown testing you have to go through before they
allow you to put new software on any production system.


Just adding here, in commercial environments things don't change
quickly or easily. Whether this applies to the current issue with pkg
is not for me to say.

For example, certain commercial upstream software vendors require to
go through a certification process before they even consider
supporting the new software you intend to use with theirs.

Admittedly we haven't run into this issue in relation to FreeBSD, but
we certainly have with Firefox. As an example, the last version of
Firefox that Information Builders' WebFOCUS 7.7 supports is 3.6.7
(currently available versions are 31 or 32!) and for Internet Explorer
that's 7 (currently at 11).
If you run into any kind of problem, the standard answer is to use a
browser that they support. Good luck with that!
Firefox 3.6.7 was released on July 20, 2010; over 4 years ago.

In such cases you're more or less required to keep an old system
around that still has such old packages, if only to see if you can
reproduce any issues you encounter (with modern versions of your
software) on those old versions.

With the deprecation of the old pkg_* tools you run into a conflict;
You can either update packages that are _not_ under certification for
such a vendor and get security updates and fixes using the new pkg, or
you have to stick with the certified software and _not_ get any
security updates or fixes.


It gets more interesting if you have to deal with manufacturing
processes (something we're looking to use FreeBSD for to replace our
current OpenVMS systems before they go out of support), as often
automatons write data to external databases and such software resides
in PLC's. Manufacturing equipment tends to age and the kind of
external databases they support is limited to what was available when
they were new and the capabilities of the PLC involved.

I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get
impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand
that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but
software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time.



It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those issues
in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is
gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago
instead. It can't work that way.

My 2 cents in this discussion :-).

Cheers
Marcus


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Re: poudriere and DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES

2014-09-02 Thread Alex Dupre
Russell L. Carter ha scritto:
 However, what I would like to learn is if poudriere
 is able to understand DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=YES, and if so, how to
 enable it.  I'm not asking a political question here, just a technical
 one.  If this is possible, how do I do it?

NO_IGNORE=  yes

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Marcus von Appen wrote:
 Alban Hertroys haram...@gmail.com:


 I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get
 impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand
 that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but
 software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time.


 It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those
 issues
 in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is
 gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago
 instead. It can't work that way.

 My 2 cents in this discussion :-).

Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for
breaking pkg_* tools, was told, too late now - that was more than 2
weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with
an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was
not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline.

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread David Chisnall
On 2 Sep 2014, at 12:47, Michelle Sullivan miche...@sorbs.net wrote:

 I'm not happy that the EOL was
 not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline.

I'm not sure what you think the difference is.  The EOL says 'the FreeBSD 
project no longer supports this configuration'.  If you are not relying on us 
for support (i.e. using an old or forked ports tree, or building your own 
packages), then things will continue to work.  If you are expecting (unpaid, 
volunteer) support from the project in the form of packages and a useable ports 
tree, then you need to use a supported configuration.

If being able to use the ports tree without installing pkg(8) is sufficiently 
valuable to you, then I can put you in touch with some companies that will 
backport things to a copy of the ports tree for your use (although the price 
tag will scale with the number of ports that you want to support).

If, however, your complaint is that it's hard to get new software certified for 
your system *then this change has absolutely no effect on you!*  If you're not 
worried about upgrading ports at all, then you can just stick with the ports 
tree version from the time of your release.  If you're able to upgrade ports, 
then upgrading the pkg port should not be an issue.

David

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Marcus von Appen m...@freebsd.org wrote:

 It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those issues
 in the time between tthe announcement and now


If this is an issue that needed to be brought up, then FreeBSD has
apparently never before been used in an enterprise???

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 9/1/2014 9:27 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
 oh and what was it, 1.3.6 - 1.3.7? broke
 shit... (badly) ...

What broke? I am not aware of any new regressions in 1.3.7.

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Re: chromium iconify-resurrect

2014-09-02 Thread Russell L. Carter


On 09/02/14 01:15, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote:
 ## Russell L. Carter (rcar...@pinyon.org):
 
 Start up chromium, then immediately iconify it. Then try bringing it
 back again.  All I get (after a delay of several seconds) is a white
 canvas in the correct size.  Chromium does respond to window manager
 commands (fvwm close, no destroy needed, in my case).
 
 Same here. Workaround: using (Un)stick from the windows commands
 brings back the window content (without having to exit chrome).

Huh.  That works.  Twenty years of fvwm and I never used that before...

Thanks,
Russell


 Regards,
 Christoph
 
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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Marcus von Appen

Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com:


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Marcus von Appen m...@freebsd.org wrote:


It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those issues
in the time between tthe announcement and now



If this is an issue that needed to be brought up, then FreeBSD has
apparently never before been used in an enterprise???


I'm tempted to ask, if the enterprise has SLAs to ensure continuity,
even after the official support has ended? ;-)

Cheers
Marcus


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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Garrett Cooper

 On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:47, Michelle Sullivan miche...@sorbs.net wrote:
 
 Marcus von Appen wrote:
 Alban Hertroys haram...@gmail.com:
 
 
 I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get
 impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand
 that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but
 software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time.
 
 It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those
 issues
 in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is
 gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago
 instead. It can't work that way.
 
 My 2 cents in this discussion :-).
 
 Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for
 breaking pkg_* tools, was told, too late now - that was more than 2
 weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with
 an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was
 not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline.

Hi Michelle,
One subtle point that I wanted to ask for clarification is you thought the 
EOL announcement for pkg_install was going to be pkg_install is no longer 
going to be supported, but you can still use it, instead of pkg_install 
support is going to be removed from the tree -- is that correct?
You'd probably hate to do this, but forking the sources and changing from 
portsnap to a git or svn backed ports tree that downloads a tarball snapshot 
might be the best resolution to this issue now...
Thanks!
-Garrett
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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Garrett Cooper wrote:
 On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:47, Michelle Sullivan miche...@sorbs.net wrote:

 Marcus von Appen wrote:
 
 Alban Hertroys haram...@gmail.com:

   
 I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get
 impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand
 that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but
 software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time.
 
 It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those
 issues
 in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is
 gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago
 instead. It can't work that way.

 My 2 cents in this discussion :-).
   
 Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for
 breaking pkg_* tools, was told, too late now - that was more than 2
 weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with
 an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was
 not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline.
 

 Hi Michelle,
 One subtle point that I wanted to ask for clarification is you thought 
 the EOL announcement for pkg_install was going to be pkg_install is no 
 longer going to be supported, but you can still use it, instead of 
 pkg_install support is going to be removed from the tree -- is that correct?
   
100% correct! (thank you for being one of the few to see the subtle but
*very* important difference)

 You'd probably hate to do this, but forking the sources and changing from 
 portsnap to a git or svn backed ports tree that downloads a tarball snapshot 
 might be the best resolution to this issue now...
   

This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my
build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically
converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued...
however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same
directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure...

Time to rebuild everything from scratch I think - second time in a
year.. I'm guessing my boss is going to tell me, use RPM, no wasting
more time on it... only time will tell... you'll know the result if you
see future posts and patches from me.

Michelle

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Michelle Sullivan miche...@sorbs.net
wrote:

 This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my
 build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically
 converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued...
 however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same
 directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure...


So, the flip side of enterprise software management is that you probably
should not be integrating a rolling release like ports into what is
supposed to be a stable verified environment in the first place.
*Especially* not via cron jobs with no supervision. At the very least, your
jails should be working from a local ports tree (or packages via
poudriere), with cherry-picking of locally tested patches.

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Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Brandon Allbery wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Michelle Sullivan miche...@sorbs.net
 wrote:

   
 This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my
 build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically
 converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued...
 however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same
 directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure...

 

 So, the flip side of enterprise software management is that you probably
 should not be integrating a rolling release like ports into what is
 supposed to be a stable verified environment in the first place.
 *Especially* not via cron jobs with no supervision. At the very least, your
 jails should be working from a local ports tree (or packages via
 poudriere), with cherry-picking of locally tested patches.

   
The roll until they get a stable base (using Jenkins as the controller)
- they've been rolling since a patch to DBIx-SearchBuilder (that I
created and submitted), which out came the DBD::Pg update to 3.3.0 and
the subsequent blacklisting of it for RT 4.x and then the tcl breakage
around mid August until 2 days ago...  So yeah not that stupid.

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tmux backspace patch?

2014-09-02 Thread Patrick
Hi, there:


I was just wondering about the backspace patch for tmux. Since upgrading to
tmux 1.9a (from 1.8) where this patch is unconditionally applied, my
backspace key no longer works in the tmux command prompt (e.g. C-b:). I
had to remove the patch and manually rebuild to get it to work. I'm just
wondering what purpose this patch serves? I don't really understand what
this patch is doing, but I see from Google searching that I'm not the only
one to have the exact same issue with this patch.


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Re: wine (-devel) and i386-wine

2014-09-02 Thread David Naylor
Hi Tom,

On Monday, 1 September 2014 22:24:57 Thomas Mueller wrote:
 I read something about two days on www.freshports.org about wine and
 i386-wine that alters my plans.
 
 I tried to build i386-wine from i386 with the idea of using it both from
 i386 and amd64, in the latter case mounting the i386 partition on
 /compat/i386.
 
 But what I see makes that look not feasible.

It is feasible to run the i386-wine ports from a 32bt environment - however it 
is not ideal.  The port implements various hacks to get the package to work 
properly on an amd64 system that is simply not needed when running natively.  

 If I want to run wine from both i386 and amd64 (not at the same time), do I
 need to make separate installations on separate partitions?  In that case,
 how do I avoid wasteful duplication in compiling?
 
 I am getting ready to rebuild/update FreeBSD-current and possibly
 10.0-STABLE from source, am planning to also make a new i386 installation
 on a hard drive in a USB 2.0 and eSATA enclosure, using eSATA.
 
 I want to do this soon, at least for FreeBSD-current because, after running
 svn up on FreeBSD src tree from NetBSD, I saw an update in
 $SRCDIR/sys/dev/re/if_re.c and want to see if that works on my Ethernet.
 
 I also want the new NFS improvements.

If you are going to have a /compat/i386 chroot then you could install (normal 
32bit) wine there and with the correct scripts run wine from that chroot 
without needing i386-wine at all (you will need to set up the correct PATH, 
LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH and LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH_RPATH variables).  

Alternatively, you could install wine on 32-bit and i386-wine on 64-bit and 
use those respectively.  

I hope this clarifies.  

Regards

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Re: tmux backspace patch?

2014-09-02 Thread Olivier Cochard-Labbé
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Patrick gibblert...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, there:


 I was just wondering about the backspace patch for tmux. Since upgrading to
 tmux 1.9a (from 1.8) where this patch is unconditionally applied, my
 backspace key no longer works in the tmux command prompt (e.g. C-b:). I
 had to remove the patch and manually rebuild to get it to work. I'm just
 wondering what purpose this patch serves? I don't really understand what
 this patch is doing, but I see from Google searching that I'm not the only
 one to have the exact same issue with this patch.


Hi,
I've the same regression: I need to use shift + backspace

now.
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/head/sysutils/gnome-system-monitor/Makefile

2014-09-02 Thread Manfred Antar
Log of /head/sysutils/gnome-system-monitor/Makefile
Revision 367008 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs]
Modified Tue Sep 2 14:23:10 2014 UTC (11 hours, 43 minutes ago) by tijl
Add missing library libgmodule-2.0
Reported by:antoine

I think if you: 

Add missing library libgmodule-2.0


you must also add library libgthread-2.0
I couldn't get it to compile on i386 current without that
Manfred


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Re: poudriere and DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES

2014-09-02 Thread Russell L. Carter


On 09/02/14 04:05, Alex Dupre wrote:
 Russell L. Carter ha scritto:
 However, what I would like to learn is if poudriere
 is able to understand DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=YES, and if so, how to
 enable it.  I'm not asking a political question here, just a technical
 one.  If this is possible, how do I do it?
 
 NO_IGNORE=  yes
 

Thanks! That worked.  My family can stop hating on me now, as youtube
lives.

So, on FreeBSD-current, is there any other way besides chromium or
firefox plus the dastardly nspluginwrapper'd flash plugin to view
youtube, vimeo, etc?  I am hoping that I have missed a better way.
Supposedly there are new video protocols coming down the pipe, w/o the
adobe baggage, or so I gather.

Best,
Russell
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