Re: FOCAL

2016-12-02 Thread Larry Rosenman

On 2016-12-02 22:02, Kevin Oberman wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey 
wrote:


On Saturday,  3 December 2016 at 11:40:36 +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> Be there an implementation of FOCAL?  I have a hankering to get back to
my
> early programming days :-)

Heh.  I have a paper tape from my first year at uni somewhere in the
mess on my desk.  It's been there for at least 10 years, and it's
short enough for it to be practical to read it in by eye, but I
haven't got more than a third of the way through.  It's in FOCAL-69,
and does some world-shattering calculations like mean and standard
deviation.  It would be fun to run it again--once.

Greg



Wow! Have not thought of FOCAL in years. Used to write a bit both when 
in
college and, using FOCAL-11, in my early years at LLNL. Unlike FOCAL on 
a
PDP-8, FOCAL-11 ran on top of DOS-11. (No relation to Microsoft DOS.) 
The

PDP-8L was the only solid state computer in the lab. All of the others
still had vacuum tubes and drum memory, though the Univac Athena had 
both

drum and core.

In college I wrote a simple craps game and, it it caught you trying to
cheat, it zeroed your account and gave you the finger on the ASR-33. My
computer logic prof (and department head) saw that trivial ASCII art 
and
chewed me a new one for putting code to generate that gesture on a 
school

computer. That was about 45 years ago. Memories!


Brings back memories for me as well from high school.  Back in 1972.

PDP-8/L in the Levittown (NY) School District.
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Re: FOCAL

2016-12-02 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey 
wrote:

> On Saturday,  3 December 2016 at 11:40:36 +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> > Be there an implementation of FOCAL?  I have a hankering to get back to
> my
> > early programming days :-)
>
> Heh.  I have a paper tape from my first year at uni somewhere in the
> mess on my desk.  It's been there for at least 10 years, and it's
> short enough for it to be practical to read it in by eye, but I
> haven't got more than a third of the way through.  It's in FOCAL-69,
> and does some world-shattering calculations like mean and standard
> deviation.  It would be fun to run it again--once.
>
> Greg
>

Wow! Have not thought of FOCAL in years. Used to write a bit both when in
college and, using FOCAL-11, in my early years at LLNL. Unlike FOCAL on a
PDP-8, FOCAL-11 ran on top of DOS-11. (No relation to Microsoft DOS.) The
PDP-8L was the only solid state computer in the lab. All of the others
still had vacuum tubes and drum memory, though the Univac Athena had both
drum and core.

In college I wrote a simple craps game and, it it caught you trying to
cheat, it zeroed your account and gave you the finger on the ASR-33. My
computer logic prof (and department head) saw that trivial ASCII art and
chewed me a new one for putting code to generate that gesture on a school
computer. That was about 45 years ago. Memories!
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Re: FOCAL

2016-12-02 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday,  3 December 2016 at 11:40:36 +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> Be there an implementation of FOCAL?  I have a hankering to get back to my
> early programming days :-)

Heh.  I have a paper tape from my first year at uni somewhere in the
mess on my desk.  It's been there for at least 10 years, and it's
short enough for it to be practical to read it in by eye, but I
haven't got more than a third of the way through.  It's in FOCAL-69,
and does some world-shattering calculations like mean and standard
deviation.  It would be fun to run it again--once.

Greg
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Re: FOCAL

2016-12-02 Thread George Mitchell
On 12/02/16 19:40, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> Be there an implementation of FOCAL?  I have a hankering to get back to my 
> early programming days :-)
> 
The Wikipedia page has a few links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCAL_%28programming_language%29
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FOCAL

2016-12-02 Thread Dave Horsfall
Be there an implementation of FOCAL?  I have a hankering to get back to my 
early programming days :-)

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Please commit devel/oniguruma6

2016-12-02 Thread Yuri

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=212715


Thanks!

Yuri

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Re: Hash changes in the freebsd-ports GitHub mirror

2016-12-02 Thread Shawn Webb
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 04:08:23PM +, Steven Hartland wrote:
> On 02/12/2016 15:12, Shawn Webb wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 10:40:29AM +0100, Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I tried running `git pull` a few minutes ago and had a ton of conflicts.
> >>
> >> It turns out all hashes after c96fb0418e545a569b5975b4d878a30a948c29d5
> >> ("fix issues related with USES=fonts" from 2015-07-18, aka r392404) are
> >> now different in all GitHub branches.
> >>
> >> Is anyone else experiencing this? Was this change intentional?
> > We at HardenedBSD are affected as well. Well, time to spend my weekend
> > resolving merge conflicts.
> >
> > Seems like any downstream project that relies on the GitHub mirror of
> > the ports tree will have issues. Major ouch.
> >
> Did someone do a force push?

Looks like the svn2git conversion script iis having issues:

https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-git/2016-December/74.html

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Re: Hash changes in the freebsd-ports GitHub mirror

2016-12-02 Thread Steven Hartland

On 02/12/2016 15:12, Shawn Webb wrote:

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 10:40:29AM +0100, Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote:

Hi all,

I tried running `git pull` a few minutes ago and had a ton of conflicts.

It turns out all hashes after c96fb0418e545a569b5975b4d878a30a948c29d5
("fix issues related with USES=fonts" from 2015-07-18, aka r392404) are
now different in all GitHub branches.

Is anyone else experiencing this? Was this change intentional?

We at HardenedBSD are affected as well. Well, time to spend my weekend
resolving merge conflicts.

Seems like any downstream project that relies on the GitHub mirror of
the ports tree will have issues. Major ouch.


Did someone do a force push?
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Re: Hash changes in the freebsd-ports GitHub mirror

2016-12-02 Thread Shawn Webb
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 10:40:29AM +0100, Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I tried running `git pull` a few minutes ago and had a ton of conflicts.
> 
> It turns out all hashes after c96fb0418e545a569b5975b4d878a30a948c29d5
> ("fix issues related with USES=fonts" from 2015-07-18, aka r392404) are
> now different in all GitHub branches.
> 
> Is anyone else experiencing this? Was this change intentional?

We at HardenedBSD are affected as well. Well, time to spend my weekend
resolving merge conflicts.

Seems like any downstream project that relies on the GitHub mirror of
the ports tree will have issues. Major ouch.

Thanks,

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Re: WIP: lang/php71

2016-12-02 Thread Torsten Zuehlsdorff

Aloha,

yesterday PHP 7.1 was released. I upgraded my dev-repo for interested users.

You can get a full ports-tree with all new ports from GitHub:

$ git clone https://github.com/t-zuehlsdorff/freebsd-ports
$ git checkout php71

Also i created a diff for an review:
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D8693

If no errors were found, i'm going to bring it in next week! :)

Greetings,
Torsten

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FreeBSD Port: xapian-bindings-1.2.24

2016-12-02 Thread Oliver Schonrock
Hi There

I have been waiting for SWIG to gain php7 support so that
xapian-bindings can too. Looks like SWIG is now there, and the xapian
guys have included a php7 compiliation option on xapian master branch:

https://lists.xapian.org/pipermail/xapian-discuss/2016-November/009444.html

I tried to do some test compiling & testing, but immediately fell foul
of the fact that the new stuff is based off master and the FreeBSD ports
are still on 1.2.24, rather than the more recent 1.4.1 branch.

Would it be possible to update the port to 1.4.1, I will then try with
master and give some feedback to xapian with the hope they can then tag
a new release (presumable in 1.4 series) which will include php7 support.

Many Thanks



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Re: Hash changes in the freebsd-ports GitHub mirror

2016-12-02 Thread Mathieu Arnold
Le 02/12/2016 à 10:40, Raphael Kubo da Costa a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I tried running `git pull` a few minutes ago and had a ton of conflicts.
>
> It turns out all hashes after c96fb0418e545a569b5975b4d878a30a948c29d5
> ("fix issues related with USES=fonts" from 2015-07-18, aka r392404) are
> now different in all GitHub branches.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this? Was this change intentional?
>

It may be related to the fact that the git repository is made from the
public http repository, which is a mirror of the official repository
made with svnmirror (I think?) and that that mirroring thing was
dropping commit that had no files in them. (Aka forced commits.)

Things may have been fixed.


(It's the reason my fork[1] is not really a fork, it was redone using
repo.freebsd.org as its source)


Or maybe it is not related and I don't know what I'm talking about.


1: https://github.com/mat813/freebsd-ports/

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Hash changes in the freebsd-ports GitHub mirror

2016-12-02 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
Hi all,

I tried running `git pull` a few minutes ago and had a ton of conflicts.

It turns out all hashes after c96fb0418e545a569b5975b4d878a30a948c29d5
("fix issues related with USES=fonts" from 2015-07-18, aka r392404) are
now different in all GitHub branches.

Is anyone else experiencing this? Was this change intentional?
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Re: Thunar is slow when browsing automounted NFS shares

2016-12-02 Thread Marko Cupać
I'm including xfce mailing list as well.

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 21:22:37 +0100
Olivier Duchateau  wrote:

> There's a mailing list for Xfce related questions :)

I have just subscribed. I guess it was about time after using it for
more than 5 years as primary DE :)

> Before I want to know, if Thunar is running in daemon mode (for
> faster startup).

I don't think so.

> Can you display result of ps x | grep thunar?

pacija@efreet:~ % ps x | grep Thunar
1241 v4  S0:01,07 /usr/local/bin/Thunar (thunar)
1454  1  R+   0:00,00 grep Thunar

> NFS bug is well known, fixes since 1.5.x (according to Xfce's bug
> tracker). In fact problem often comes from gvfs (in your case
> gvfsd-network).

I'm at Thunar-1.6.10_2, gvfs-1.26.3_2. I don't see gvfsd-network in ps:

pacija@efreet:~ % ps x | grep gvfs
1163  -  I0:00,03 /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd
1171  -  S0:00,08 /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor
1173  -  I0:00,03 /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
1243  -  I0:00,02 /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd-metadata
1245  -  S0:00,10 /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.8 
/org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
1465  1  S+   0:00,00 grep gvfs

> If you change value of AutoMount (true -> false)
> in /usr/local/share/gvfs/mounts/network.mount is there notable
> changes?

Did the change but no improvements.

On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 22:42:54 +
Ben Woods  wrote:

> I noticed this exact same behaviour last night, when I set up
> autofs(5) for the first time.

I thought that from '...automounted NFS shares' in subject it will be
clear that I am using autofs, but I see now I should explain it in more
detail.

My auto_master:

pacija@efreet:~ % sudo cat /etc/auto_master
/net-hosts  -nobrowse,nosuid,intr

How client sees exports on server:

pacija@efreet:~ % showmount -E mephala
/usr/home/pacija/Music

> Olivier: My understanding was that the autofs(5) behaviour should be
> transparent to thunar, and therefore it should not be related to gvfs
> at all?

This was my understanding as well. Perhaps some fight between the two?

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