Re: Possibly unbuildable ports reminder
On 02/28/10 04:00, Bill Fenner wrote: > addition, the list of ports with no MAINTAINER with build problems is > > http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/errorlogs/po...@freebsd.org.html What about a list (by PORTS) of ports with problems with maintainers? I'm curious about one or two ports (mainly Skype). -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Possibly unbuildable ports reminder
On 02/28/10 08:31, Wesley Shields wrote: > http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ > > That has just about everything you will want to know. Thanks (: -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Java For Firefox
I don't know if I should also cc the maintainer for FF3.6, but I'm posting here. Hopefully they'll see it. When will we have an updated Java for use in Firefox 3.6? I guess I could downgrade back to 3.5 if absolutely necessary, but I'd rather not. Though I imagine an upgraded java would mean I would have to recompile OOo, too. ): -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Java For Firefox
On 03/17/10 13:57, Jason Garrett wrote: > I am also interested. I believe that sun's java is up to Update 18 for > 1.6. Port shows Update 3. > > Also CC'ing freebsd-java into this. I don't do much code, but I am > willing to do everything I can to help out. I'm willing to test and file bug reports, as I'm not much of a coder myself. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Java For Firefox
On 03/19/10 07:14, Robert Huff wrote: > and what I remember of the original post, which came across as: > > "FreeBSD doesn't have X? Do you not realize how important X > is? Bunch of losers. Fix it, or I'm outta here." > > and - seen that way - drew a predictable and quite human > reaction. Especially when the poster seems to be somewhat more > clueful than someone who is trying FreeBSD becuase "My geek friends > said I should use Linux.". Is that what I said? I don't recall saying anything of the sort. I do recall asking for a time frame on when a Java update compatible with FF 3.6 would be available. I ask because I am the one who started this thread. I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing and bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions because I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still some things in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to) and of FreeBSD (I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year hiatus from any time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)). If any of that came across as what you are paraphrasing me (claiming to be remembering the original post) as implying, than I really will leave. It's a dirt-poor attitude to have toward your new users. I'm at least making an effort to not be a n00b. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Java For Firefox
On 03/19/10 11:48, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:05:31 -0500 > Programmer In Training articulated: >> I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing and >> bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions >> because I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still >> some things in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to) >> and of FreeBSD (I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year >> hiatus from any time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)). > > Is there any reason that you don't simply install 'bash'? I use it as > my shell and love it. It came on very strong recommendation from one of my geek friends as an alternative to bash (which he termed as a "joke"). I've managed to make some basic cosmetic customizations to it that make it /look/ like bash, so I'm happy with that. Just have to get use to not having tab-complete suggestions (or find a way to enable that, too). >> If any of that came across as what you are paraphrasing me (claiming to >> be remembering the original post) as implying, than I really will >> leave. It's a dirt-poor attitude to have toward your new users. I'm at >> least making an effort to not be a n00b. > > Don't take it personal. Whether or not you are praised or ridiculed It's hard not to when someone either a) misunderstands because didn't actually read the OP but claims to be remembering from it (perhaps there is another OP that I'm not aware of that he's referring to?) or b) willfully misunderstands just to be a troll. I didn't ask to get a flamewar started. I asked because while Java (right now) isn't a requirement for me to use, FF3.6 (with all the latest security patches), is. As a part-time web developer, I need to have these tools available to me (and again, I am willing to help make that a reality). > depends entirely on where you are seated. Saying Microsoft sucks > because they don't have {Applet of your choice} and you will be > praised. Complain that your OS of choice lacks a feature that is > readily available on other OS's and you will be chastised. It just goes > with the territory. At times it can get really hilarious. That stopped being hilarious after my first six months on slashdot (many moons ago (I signed up circa 2003)). -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Java For Firefox
On 03/19/10 12:04, Scott Lambert wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 09:05:31AM -0500, Programmer In Training wrote: >> Is that what I said? I don't recall saying anything of the sort. I do >> recall asking for a time frame on when a Java update compatible with >> FF 3.6 would be available. >> >> I ask because I am the one who started this thread. >> >> I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing >> and bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions >> because I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still >> some things in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to) >> and of FreeBSD (I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year >> hiatus from any time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)). > > I'm not deeply involved in the FreeBSD project. I just use it and make > my donations to the FreeBSD Foundation. I try to make good bug reports > when I find issues. I read the mailing lists. That's about the extent > of my involvement. > > The trouble with offers of "cycles and space" is everyone offers that. > Why not, it doesn't cost them anything? Except for the ports cluster, I > don't think the project is short on "cycles and space". Unfortunately, > the ports cluster appears to require dedicated hardware, not just spare > cycles such as the distributed.net type projects could use. Now that's a good answer. Unfortunately I have no money (been out of work for nearly a year and living with relatives at the moment), nor programming skills that would be helpful. I can read and even understand the basics of Perl and shell scripts. I've even read the handbook and know more about what goes into contributing a port than I did before (and will know even more once I read it in depth). I know that cycles isn't really a good offer on a project like this, but I do a lot of things on my computer (local web developing for starters) that can take up a lot of cycles. Having to shut down anything just to go and test and use a particular program and then bug report is a significant investment in my time and CPU. It really is the best offer I have to make. If my bro-in-law (current router admin where I'm staying) wasn't such a Nazi about forwarding external port 22 requests to my box, I'd offer even more. Hence my very polite (pointedly so just so as to make sure no one would get testy) request about a time frame for the latest (or at least whatever will work with FF3.6) Java. > So, everyone, step away from the computer. Look at how nicely spring > is shaping up. Get some sunlight. Take a deep breath, smile, and try > again. Here in Arkansas, we have a lot of daffodils up. The fruit > trees are flowering. The grass is greening up. > Sunlight is evil. I must have my energy drink and dark, cool, server closet. j/k ;) -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[RESOLVED] Re: Java For Firefox
On 03/19/10 12:25, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Programmer In Training < > p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> wrote: > >> >> I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing and >> bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions because >> > > > Well, it is nice of you to offer this. It's all I have to offer. > However, keep in mind that there aren't enough human resources (programmers, > bug fixers, documenters, etc) in the FreeBSD Project. > Until that issue is fixed, your offer will not help. All I needed to hear. There is no time frame because there aren't enough programmers. Thank you. (: I consider this issue resolved. > So, to everyone wanting to help the FreeBSD Project; learn how to code, fix > bugs, document, etc. (not necessarily in that order). That way you will make > a difference. > To all others; wishing will only get you so far. > This is the real world: deal with it. Working on those, slowly but surely. First step is to actually get back into using my Learning Perl book to learn perl. (: -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Problem With GCompris
Since this isn't listed at http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portserrs.py and I haven't a clue (yet, I know I've seen how, just can't remember) how to make a report about a port error, I'm posting to this list and cross-posting to the listed maintainer for this port. I'm attempting to install gcompris from ports. Version in ports is 8.4.12_3. It won't fetch from the server so I went to download it and could not find /that/ version but I did find 8.4.13 so I went ahead and put it in distfiles to see if it would work (it didn't). If I understand this correctly, there is a freeze on ports. Might I know if 8.4.13 (or even better, the most recent version) will be available after the freeze? Or is this facing the same problem as Java, lack of programmers dedicated to it? If so, I'll explore options to fixing that. Thanks in advance. (: -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Problem With GCompris
On 03/21/10 08:38, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Programmer In Training writes: > >> Since this isn't listed at http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portserrs.py and >> I haven't a clue (yet, I know I've seen how, just can't remember) how to >> make a report about a port error, I'm posting to this list and >> cross-posting to the listed maintainer for this port. > > "man send-pr" Thanks. > >> I'm attempting to install gcompris from ports. Version in ports is >> 8.4.12_3. It won't fetch from the server so I went to download it and >> could not find /that/ version but I did find 8.4.13 so I went ahead and >> put it in distfiles to see if it would work (it didn't). > > 8.4.12 is still available from the FreeBSD servers, so the current port > builds fine for me. I hate manually browsing the FreeBSD ftp servers. It takes FOREVER to load. > I tried 8.4.13, and the only problem seems to be the Makefile.in patch, > which needs to be adapted for whatever changed upstream. [You can build > by just deleting the patch, but permissions and install locations won't > be right, and I don't think it will work properly. I'll keep that in mind. >> If I understand this correctly, there is a freeze on ports. Might I know >> if 8.4.13 (or even better, the most recent version) will be available >> after the freeze? > > The odds are always better if you supply a patch... Right now I write shell scripts for myself and >> Or is this facing the same problem as Java, lack of programmers >> dedicated to it? >> >> If so, I'll explore options to fixing that. > > It's not quite trivial (often all you need to update a port is to change > the makefile to point to the new version and update the checksums), but > it doesn't look difficult. I did that and it died on being patched. The patch is there for a reason, I'm not competent enough to know how all to make the changes needed to be able to keep the patch and install the next point release. There are other options I can explore, though (such as being patient and getting it from ftp.freebsd.org (which I think the make file should fall back to if the main source isn't available)). -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: graphics/png
On 03/28/10 09:09, ajtiM wrote: > Thank you but if I use: > portmaster -r png- > I got ===>>> No valid installed port, or port directory given > ===>>> Try portmaster --help > > If I use portmaster -r /usr/ports/graphics/png- > > ===>>> No valid installed port, or port directory given > ===>>> Try portmaster --help > > What I am doing wrong, please? > > Mitja Get rid of the trailing hyphen. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Rarian, Scrollkeeper, gucharmap
I was going to install gucharmap so I didn't have to worry about figuring out what file I need to map a compose key in for it to work in WindowMaker (yeah yeah, lazy me), but I ran into a problem I didn't cause (haha, keep the comments to yourself): scrollkeeper-config: not found scrollkeeper-config: not found The file '/Templates/C/scrollkeeper_cl.xml' does not exist. Please check your ScrollKeeper installation. <--- Above two lines are the important ones gmake[2]: *** [gucharmap-C.omf] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/deskutils/gucharmap/work/gucharmap-2.28.2/help' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/deskutils/gucharmap/work/gucharmap-2.28.2' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/deskutils/gucharmap. So I look to see where scrollkeeper is and where I would find it: [r...@heaven]whereis scrollkeeper scrollkeeper: /usr/ports/textproc/scrollkeeper Apparently it's not installed. [r...@heaven]make install clean [I already ran make depends to make sure I had dependencies taken care of] ===> scrollkeeper-0.3.14_11,1 conflicts with installed package(s): rarian-0.8.1 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/scrollkeeper. So I go find rarian to see where and what it is. [r...@heaven]cd ../rarian/ [r...@heaven]less pkg-descr Rarian is designed to be a replacement for scrollkeeper. It is <--- Um really? currently undergoing heavy development. As of writing, rarian can be installed in place of scrollkeeper and everything will work okay. <--- Really? Is gucharmap just an anomoly or is anyone else having this problem with other apps that used to rely on scrollkeeper? I updated my local ports collection on 9 April. I'm going to install regular charmap (or at least try to) as an alternative. Just thought I'd at least let you guys know about the issue. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Rarian, Scrollkeeper, gucharmap
On 04/11/10 13:59, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Whilst I don't have it installed, according to the pkg-plist for > rarian, it should install $LOCALBASE/bin/scrollkeeper-config (note > that you looked for 'scrollkeeper' rather than 'scrollkeeper-config' Ah. Well no worries. Apparently charmap was already installed. I guess I should look over pkg-plist too instead of just pkg-desc > Does "pkg_info -g rarian-0.8.1" report any anomolies? > Nada. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature